My two stroke project 2012 300 xc converted to a 300 sx

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Edited Date/Time 6/5/2012 4:51am
With other stuff going on and not being able to ride much i've slowly been building my 300 xc into a sx. Here is a few photos from start to finish. Cant wait to ride this thing tomorrow now that its all done. Going to put a 52 tooth sprocket on it (50 stock) and that is it.
Parts:
fmf factory pipe with shorty silencer
SXS hard parts head
Electric Starter and electrical and battery removed with new ignition cover installed
PHDS bar clamps
Fastway lowboy pegs
Side stand removed
Factory Connection suspension with WP low speed valves (unreal)
Removed the giant gas tank (which I love the clear tank) and installed a 250 sx gas tank
Sudco 38mm carb
Maybe black rims if these bend like im pretty sure they will Smile
Few pictures from start to finish

This was the first day on it, suspension sucks for mx

Big tank, kick stand and electric starter ready to get yanked off

Finished product



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2/2/2012 2:41pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 2:41pm
Whew. Handsome machine. Fantastic job ya' did. Test rode one of those, and the engine was almost electric in behavior. One of the most rideable bikes I ever tried.
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2/2/2012 2:50pm
Nice bike Hoss! I have a older 250SX,I love it,but the 300 motor is easier to ride.A lot more torque.
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2/2/2012 2:51pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 2:53pm
Sweet looking machine! I see what you did now, way cool

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2/2/2012 2:56pm
Great job, that looks great! I bet it's a blast to ride.
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2/2/2012 2:59pm
That's a fun bike! Good move.

Only gripe: I don't know why anyone would put Motorex stickers on their bike, especially on a KTM, unless it was a sponsor. Those pale green stickers on orange bikes look terrible!

Other than that small detail, awesome bike!
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2/2/2012 3:12pm
i fapped.

i have no dignity left
2/2/2012 3:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 3:41pm
I want that factory FMF pipe on my kx250 so bad. The bike looks amazing. Can we get a full report on how she rides.
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2/2/2012 3:36pm
TriRacer27 wrote:
That's a fun bike! Good move. Only gripe: I don't know why anyone would put Motorex stickers on their bike, especially on a KTM, unless it...
That's a fun bike! Good move.

Only gripe: I don't know why anyone would put Motorex stickers on their bike, especially on a KTM, unless it was a sponsor. Those pale green stickers on orange bikes look terrible!

Other than that small detail, awesome bike!
Motorex has been a sponsor of KTM for years, guess Hoss is going for the factory / team look. Not a big fan of that dull green against the orange either, but the rest of the bike looks awesome! Great job
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2/2/2012 3:42pm
Black rimage and that is my dream bike. Great job. Is it better/cheaper to do than taking a 2012 SX up to a 300cc?
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2/2/2012 3:55pm
Mstock wrote:
Black rimage and that is my dream bike. Great job. Is it better/cheaper to do than taking a 2012 SX up to a 300cc?
Probably, although it would've been easier to just buy a TM 300 MX and probably cheaper too.

KTM 250 SX: $6899
KTM 300 XC: $8099
TM 300 MX: $8440

That is still a pretty sweet bike though.
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2/2/2012 3:55pm
TriRacer27 wrote:
That's a fun bike! Good move. Only gripe: I don't know why anyone would put Motorex stickers on their bike, especially on a KTM, unless it...
That's a fun bike! Good move.

Only gripe: I don't know why anyone would put Motorex stickers on their bike, especially on a KTM, unless it was a sponsor. Those pale green stickers on orange bikes look terrible!

Other than that small detail, awesome bike!
Motorex has been a sponsor of KTM for years, guess Hoss is going for the factory / team look. Not a big fan of that dull...
Motorex has been a sponsor of KTM for years, guess Hoss is going for the factory / team look. Not a big fan of that dull green against the orange either, but the rest of the bike looks awesome! Great job
I cant pick it apart because it looks better than mine, but the orange bars and pad arent my taste.

Awesome looking bike, almost makes me want a 2stroke
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2/2/2012 3:55pm
Mstock wrote:
Black rimage and that is my dream bike. Great job. Is it better/cheaper to do than taking a 2012 SX up to a 300cc?
Excellent question, I was wondering the same, but he can always convert it back for harescrambles/enduros...
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2/2/2012 4:02pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 4:08pm
I would not say its sponsor I do have a very good relationship with Motorex and really like there product. Ive used it a long time and used in Japanese bikes and ktms. I do like the factory look also but that is not the reason I run it, I run it on yamaha, suzuki, kawi ect. I get the stuff for a very good price from them. I know I know oil is oil just change it but ive done my own analysis on different oils and it is very good product.

As far as why I did a 300 xc instead of the 250 sx is for a few reasons. My buddy has a few 12' 250 sx and I do like them but the 300 is easier to ride (for me). I have not owned a 2stroke in 12 years and rode 500 2strokes for a long time so the big bore is what I wanted. Yes I could have just got the 300 kit but the main reason was the resale value. I know the market of used bikes pretty well and sell a lot of bikes for friends and the 300 xc will sell way way easier than a 250 sx , at least here in Northern California. Everything I took off is simple to put back on. Its roughly about a $1k dollar difference between the two but in resale the 300 holds it's value much better and to a wider range of riders from track to offroad they seem to love this bike.On top of that I like to build bikes up . Ive only ridden it a few times but holy crap it is fun to ride and for not riding a two stroke in 12 years I was able to go pretty much go the same speed on my buddy's 300 he did compared to my 350 sxf. The weight difference is HUGE between a 450 , no comparison between them and the fun factor rivals the 350 if not even more. Also, there just so damn simple to work on and no fuel pumps, clogged FI ect to ever worry about.
The suspension from Factory connection is by far the best suspension ive ever ridden on, ive had all the big name and local shops do bikes for me but this thing is like riding on air its unreal. I kick myself in the ass for never even giving the 2stroke a chance from the day the yz 400 came out but it only took about 5 laps on a friends 2stroke and it was a flashback and a whole lotta fun!
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2/2/2012 4:05pm
I want that factory FMF pipe on my kx250 so bad. The bike looks amazing. Can we get a full report on how she rides.
You know you want it. It worked great on my '05!

2/2/2012 4:16pm
I recently checked into getting a 250SX and upgrading to the 300 kit and E start. Dealer quote for the 300 kit was $722 and E start was $569.99. Not positive but I think the E start will cost you about 5 more pounds. I don't know what the tank costs (or weight difference) but the XC also has a 6 speed and a 18 inch rear tire versus a 5 speed and the 19 inch rear on the SX. KTM and their factory options are pretty cool. NIce bike.
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2/2/2012 4:26pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 4:28pm
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k to me. any info would be appreciated

ps... sorry for the hijack attempt, am just curious as i was going to go pick her up tomorrow but that seems steep
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2/2/2012 4:27pm
Ya the tm's are sweet my buddy ordered two of them.There is a guy in OR that sells them. My only worry is parts but the bikes are really trick.

Switch, ya I know but my black bars had a little notch in them and was not willing to run them.Had the orange bars so put them on but ya I dont really care for the color either.
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Peelout id say about $7400 to $7600 is a decent price. I paid $8300 otd for the 300
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2/2/2012 4:33pm
peelout, that price is crazy. Even at full pop retail you'd only be at $7250 after Utah state tax. Do they really think they are going to sell it for full sticker price PLUS $850 Freight/PDI?
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2/2/2012 4:36pm
nytsmaC wrote:
peelout, that price is crazy. Even at full pop retail you'd only be at $7250 after Utah state tax. Do they really think they are going...
peelout, that price is crazy. Even at full pop retail you'd only be at $7250 after Utah state tax. Do they really think they are going to sell it for full sticker price PLUS $850 Freight/PDI?
bro, that's what i was thinking when he told me. thanks for the responses btw
2/2/2012 4:46pm
peelout wrote:
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k...
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k to me. any info would be appreciated

ps... sorry for the hijack attempt, am just curious as i was going to go pick her up tomorrow but that seems steep
If you are talking the SX, Munn Racing (Chip Munn 254-829-0004) quoted me $6899, not sure if that was out the door or not.
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2/2/2012 4:48pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2012 4:53pm
peelout wrote:
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k...
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k to me. any info would be appreciated

ps... sorry for the hijack attempt, am just curious as i was going to go pick her up tomorrow but that seems steep
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit more.
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peelout wrote:
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k...
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k to me. any info would be appreciated

ps... sorry for the hijack attempt, am just curious as i was going to go pick her up tomorrow but that seems steep
rocrac wrote:
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit...
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit more.
250SX, 2stroke. i was planning on throwing down about $7300... no way i'm popping the extra $700 for no reason
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2/2/2012 5:06pm
peelout wrote:
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k...
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k to me. any info would be appreciated

ps... sorry for the hijack attempt, am just curious as i was going to go pick her up tomorrow but that seems steep
rocrac wrote:
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit...
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit more.
peelout wrote:
250SX, 2stroke. i was planning on throwing down about $7300... no way i'm popping the extra $700 for no reason
I hated not being able to haggle but those damn things are hot right now I had a hard time finding one in the midwest. Dealer prep is usually about $300 and then taxes at 7% only brings you to $7,700 you need to find out where that $350 is going or make them throw in a pipe.
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2/2/2012 5:07pm
peelout wrote:
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k...
just checked with my dealer on the '12 250... WTF is a decent out the door price? they are telling me $8,050... seems high as f**k to me. any info would be appreciated

ps... sorry for the hijack attempt, am just curious as i was going to go pick her up tomorrow but that seems steep
rocrac wrote:
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit...
Which 250? I just took home a SX retail is $6899 plus dealer prep fee's and taxes it was close. The SXF was quite a bit more.
peelout wrote:
250SX, 2stroke. i was planning on throwing down about $7300... no way i'm popping the extra $700 for no reason
$7300 otd for 2012 250SX in the land of beer from 2 dealers. Don't pay more than that.

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