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Ok know these threads never go anywhere but BAD. But try not to puke out page after page after page of wheelie boy hate. We already know these scumbags and we already hate them. I just want to try to get my 13 year old brothers bikes back.
This Wheelieboy problem is growing nationwide, not just in Baltimore.
My dad gave up 1 RM85L and 1 RM85 to 3 african american gentlemen in Cleveland, Ohio for a fraudulent certified Chase bank check. (I know, never take checks but my dad comes from a time where he trusts everyone and everything) The check looked good, but it wasn't duh. So my dad hands over the Titles. Didn't write the VINs down.
I set up my bikes as bait bikes. Same guy called me and wanted to do the same thing. Check for both my race bikes. CAlled the police said lets go get him. They told me, No. "Can't do it...no police available etc. Don't go." So, I didn't go and he never called me back.
Cleveland police recovered one bike, (a kid wrecked it and they picked him up) but won't give it to my dad because he doesn't know the VIN and he gave the TITLES of the bikes to these people at the time he got the bad check. (ANOTHER SMART MOVE I KNOW--Never do this until check clears. I told my dad that the entire time.) Icing on the cake: My dad never transferred these titles into his name because their dirtbikes and he never has done this. Long story short I've tried locating the original owners so we can transfer titles to our name at the BMV. I'm coming up with dead end after dead end.
The one bike is still at large. At large being....this guy is riding it everyday in downtown cleveland. I've been following him on Instagram. I know his name, address...everything about him. I've done all the detective work because--naturally no detective will help us because we can't prove the bikes belong to us.
Trolling around on Instagram using a specific #clevelandbikelife my brothers RM 85 L is being arm-swag-wheelied all over inner city streets from "chauncythirsty_ " My brothers bike is the yellow RM 85L. You'll be able to see it within first few pages of recent posts. This jackass wears a chromed out helmet, and always ties a "crime scene" caution tape to the handlebar. (just to be cocky I guess) He also rides a yz 250 and kx 100. Hell you guys might as well take a look and see if any of your stolen bikes ended up in Cleveland....
But according to instagram The whole #Clevelandbikelife bro's are going to Atlanta, GA tomorrow "to tear up your streets." Anybody know some hard Repo guys in Atlanta? They intend to bring all the bikes back to cleveland, and possibly some of your Atlanta, GA bikes.
Again, I'm just trying to get some help locating these bikes. It's a shot in the dark but it doesn't help to keep people in the know. And lets not make this a 20 pager about how the wheelie boys are assholes. That we already know!
This Wheelieboy problem is growing nationwide, not just in Baltimore.
My dad gave up 1 RM85L and 1 RM85 to 3 african american gentlemen in Cleveland, Ohio for a fraudulent certified Chase bank check. (I know, never take checks but my dad comes from a time where he trusts everyone and everything) The check looked good, but it wasn't duh. So my dad hands over the Titles. Didn't write the VINs down.
I set up my bikes as bait bikes. Same guy called me and wanted to do the same thing. Check for both my race bikes. CAlled the police said lets go get him. They told me, No. "Can't do it...no police available etc. Don't go." So, I didn't go and he never called me back.
Cleveland police recovered one bike, (a kid wrecked it and they picked him up) but won't give it to my dad because he doesn't know the VIN and he gave the TITLES of the bikes to these people at the time he got the bad check. (ANOTHER SMART MOVE I KNOW--Never do this until check clears. I told my dad that the entire time.) Icing on the cake: My dad never transferred these titles into his name because their dirtbikes and he never has done this. Long story short I've tried locating the original owners so we can transfer titles to our name at the BMV. I'm coming up with dead end after dead end.
The one bike is still at large. At large being....this guy is riding it everyday in downtown cleveland. I've been following him on Instagram. I know his name, address...everything about him. I've done all the detective work because--naturally no detective will help us because we can't prove the bikes belong to us.
Trolling around on Instagram using a specific #clevelandbikelife my brothers RM 85 L is being arm-swag-wheelied all over inner city streets from "chauncythirsty_ " My brothers bike is the yellow RM 85L. You'll be able to see it within first few pages of recent posts. This jackass wears a chromed out helmet, and always ties a "crime scene" caution tape to the handlebar. (just to be cocky I guess) He also rides a yz 250 and kx 100. Hell you guys might as well take a look and see if any of your stolen bikes ended up in Cleveland....
But according to instagram The whole #Clevelandbikelife bro's are going to Atlanta, GA tomorrow "to tear up your streets." Anybody know some hard Repo guys in Atlanta? They intend to bring all the bikes back to cleveland, and possibly some of your Atlanta, GA bikes.
Again, I'm just trying to get some help locating these bikes. It's a shot in the dark but it doesn't help to keep people in the know. And lets not make this a 20 pager about how the wheelie boys are assholes. That we already know!
Unfortunately this won't stop until dirt-bike owners get smarter about how they buy/sell bikes.
The Shop
If your Dad had them registered they are would have the original copy of the registration, which in turn would have the VIN showing who originally registered it. What about contacting the dealer where you bought the bike (if it was bought new)?
Shitty deal regardless. I'm the same way as your Dad - in the past, a man's hand shake was worth something. Now it isn't worth shit. You just can't trust people like you used to.
Also, just a heads up, your version of the 'detective work' is also called 'stalking'. Be careful.
His Dad did not transfer the titles into his name, which is common with dirt bikes. So he cannot go to the BMV and get the info. I also do not think they had insurance on them.
I believe he and his father have learned many valuable lessons from this, such as just go eat the tax and transfer the title, etc. But at this point he's just trying to get the bikes back.
Sucks either way.
My best advice is suck it up. Don't spend your time looking for them or trying to chase the guys down. Everything is stacked against you right now especially if your white and they are not (you know what I mean). If you do happen to get it back and the thief's catch you, you could end up dead. In the long run, its just not worth it. One of the greatest things you will ever be able to do is just let this go and move on. I know its not easy, but nothing good will come from trying to get the bikes back yourself.
Our system is not for the honest working man and instead caters to minorities and the super rich. The rest of us are just along for the ride to pay for everything.
2nd time it got stolen the same thing happened with the "detective" and a week went by of nothing happening until my sister while driving home from school saw a kid flying across the park field on my pitbike. Because my sister is awesome she didn't call the police, she popped the curb in her jeep and went after his ass. He eventually rode home after trying to lose my sister at which point my sister went up to his house and chewed his and his moms ass out (probably to epic proportions knowing my sister). She came home with the bike in the back of her jeep.
Third time it got stolen (still trying to find a truly uncuttable lock) we just went back over to the idiots house and told him to give us the bike back. Not long after he went to jail for I don't know what and it never happened again.
The moral of the story - don't rely on the police. I know we all love our motorcycles and rightfully cherish our property that we work so hard to acquire but most police forces have bigger fish to fry so it isn't entirely their fault how little they care. Before I had a wife and son I know what I'd do if somebody had stolen my bike and I knew who it was. I'm not willing to roll the dice on something as replaceable as a dirt bike now though.
Dress as not to call attention to yourself, hang out, walk wright up and put a 45 to his head and tell get off your shit.
Man the F up.
You need to chalk this one up to a lesson learned.
Pit Row
Unfortunately, the police could care less about these things.
We told the police, we could careless about recovering the bikes.Just go get these guys that we can identify. Police won't. It would be nice if these jackasses could sit in jail. However, that isn't going to happen.
All my bikes are insured. My dad---on the other hand--is still too old fashioned and trustworthy to think anything bad can happen to him. So his weren't insured. I've told him numerous times the past year to just get the insured.
If we had the VINs to these bikes I think it would be easier. But as for he impounded bike (85 small wheel), the police will not let us SEE again. My dad identified it when they picked the kid up. Held the kid for 7 days. Won't release his name. They claim he's 18 but it doesn't seem like it. Worst I think they can charge him with is "receiving stolen property." But if nobody can claim it (as we can't) then it sits in the impound. WE know the last 4 digits of that bike, and we looked up the first bunch according to year. 2003 Rm 85. The police chief won't give us the bike unless we can come up with an manufacturer certificate of origin (which we gave away to thieves) And they won't allow us to see the VIN so we can get the missing middle VIN digits to take to the BMV to get a title issued. There's no common sense being used at all in this.
The bike that is being ridden (85L big wheel) we are in the process of contacting the original owner, we found him. Just haven't got a response from him or the shops.
Stealing diatribes with fraud checks is a great business opportunity. You'll never be caught, and nobody will help you recover the bikes with information anyways...
So the honest guy gets robbed the hoodlum. The law confiscates the bikes once they're wrecked. Since nobody can show proof of ownership the law starts doing the robbing by auctioning off the impound lots. Nobody can take a step back and use common sense and a list of circumstantial evidence that clearly shows our ownership. But the law will sentence someone to death row with only circumstantial evidence in a murder trial. It makes absolute sense.
@40plus we have NUMEROUS photos. I can point out custom graphics that are one of kind that are left on the bikes airbag. Red ASV levers, etc. Have pictures in our possession. And pictures in their possession with no numbers, but the same air box graphics and ASV levers....... But that doesn't matter!
Ive pretty much determined the best way is to just take it back, because nobody will come after me when I take it. Except maybe some angry thieves. But the way they're dressed in skinny jeans and t shirts, it doesn't look as though they're carrying a weapon. And I can plaster it all over instagram, and laugh.
Now with that said. To think that these guys would not shoot you dead or seriously harm you over taking back your families property is even more naive. LET IT GO! The potential future risk to your families well being is not worth the cost of a couple used RM 80's.
This is not necessarily what happened to the OP, but the cops are now part of the problem, not the solution.
That money from the sell of the RM will go into the donut fund.
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