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9/29/2019 10:17 AM

Mxon cameras for the races are Terrible. It is almost impossible for me to actually watch this race between the rain drops on the camera lens. I have never ever watched a national on tv with such pathetic live viewing. If this is how mxgp records their races I’m happy to have only watched the USA national star up to this point.

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9/29/2019 10:19 AM

Luongo didnt have budget for rain covers...

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9/29/2019 10:21 AM

i don't think you realise how much rain (and wind) hit the track today..... it was coming in sideways pretty much 90% of race time

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9/29/2019 10:26 AM

I‘m wondering how many napkins you could get at walmart for the amount of money I spent to watch the raindrops today...

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9/29/2019 10:31 AM

Yea everyone is always busting on NBC for various things but today was ridiculous.

I can understand the rain a little, and I won’t really comment because I wasn’t there and don’t know how bad it really was, but just the coverage of riders and following battles and what not was not good. Seemed to just jump around from random riders at various times.

I was planning on buying the MXGP package next year but I think I’ll just stick with the highlight tapes again.

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9/29/2019 10:39 AM

Well, it gave me a hell of an idea. Windshield wipers for camera's! That's right! My idea, nobody can have it, I'm getting a patent on it tomorrow!!

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9/29/2019 10:40 AM

mt798 wrote:

Well, it gave me a hell of an idea. Windshield wipers for camera's! That's right! My idea, nobody can have it, I'm getting a patent on it tomorrow!!

In the past they used wipers in F1 onboard camera's if I remember correctly!.

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9/29/2019 12:36 PM

I don't want to hear anyone complain about NBC Sports Gold again after having to watch this demonstration of unprofessional broadcasting. (Glad I only watched the highlights.)



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9/29/2019 12:38 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/29/2019 12:39 PM

mt798 wrote:

Well, it gave me a hell of an idea. Windshield wipers for camera's! That's right! My idea, nobody can have it, I'm getting a patent on it tomorrow!!

are you affiliated with Decal Works in any way shape or form?

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9/29/2019 12:45 PM

Yes it was shit. a simple rolloff system for outside broadcasting must be available? And the camera towers were open. At least put a fuckin roof on em. That would cost fuckall. Piss poor.

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9/29/2019 1:02 PM

Camera position/angle during the mxgp championship is always terrible... we euros are used to it.

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9/29/2019 1:08 PM

I understand that it’s raining so visibility isn’t always going to be great through the cameras but damn it seemed like they never even attempted to do anything about it. Maybe they were wiping the lenses when they got the chance and the rain just covered it so quick but it sure didn’t seem like it.

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9/29/2019 3:10 PM

Good grief.... Potatoe quality video for the majority of the event.... Have they never shot in the rain before?????

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9/29/2019 3:46 PM

Sorry. I didn't realise you were there. Apologies

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9/29/2019 3:51 PM

So you cannot comment on the TV coverage of an event unless you attended said event? That doesn’t make much sense to me.

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9/29/2019 3:57 PM

Lol

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9/29/2019 4:07 PM

I just thought they were trying to put the viewer "inside the action". Seemed like a pretty realistic view from the rain races I've been in. Minus the flapping noise of all my tear offs beating my helemt when I pulled them all at once and they hung on the last tab.

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9/29/2019 5:31 PM

DAG wrote:

I just thought they were trying to put the viewer "inside the action". Seemed like a pretty realistic view from the rain races I've been in. Minus the flapping noise of all my tear offs beating my helemt when I pulled them all at once and they hung on the last tab.

Inside the action huh? That's fine if you're riding the event. I'm not looking for the Riders POV . Personally water all over the lens so you couldn't see the track or Riders clearly is not what I'm looking for when I watch it on TV. It seemed amateurish that they couldn't find a rag to wipe off the lens.

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9/29/2019 6:33 PM

To be honest I quit watching it because I really was struggling to follow it. I ended up just watching the Live Timing when I could actually get it going. I understand they were having issues so I am not trying to knock them or complain, but stating the facts.It really was bad, and not worth spending the money to view it.

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9/29/2019 6:42 PM

Amateur hour all around.

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9/29/2019 6:53 PM

Hey. This guy is correct.

In addition...
If some loud mouth Vital member can predict that it would be a mudder, then maybe MXGP could have had proper equipment for the biggest race they promote every year.

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9/29/2019 7:19 PM

Somewhat related, it amazes me how many crashes or the aftermath are not shown on the broadcast.
I was at Lommel the full weekend and saw at least 10 crashes during races. After the weekend i watched the races on mxgp-tv and half of them were not on the broadcast (not even images of the rider getting up).

If i were tv director i would always want to show every crash, even a backmarker. Imo it should als be possible to have a (relatively) low cost solution to have 95% on camera by adding a bunch of go-pro's on fixed positions for "overview" shots so that you can give at least a shot (even if it is from further away on a fixed camera) of a crash.

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9/29/2019 7:40 PM

Good god l hate this sort of idiocy. Congrats on being a twat.

The broadcast was fucking awful. GL is doing his level best to destroy a once great institution. It was literally like a country fucking fair moto expo. Terrible track, awful broadcast. Cool, thanks.

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9/29/2019 9:10 PM

roninho wrote:

Somewhat related, it amazes me how many crashes or the aftermath are not shown on the broadcast.
I was at Lommel the full weekend and saw at least 10 crashes during races. After the weekend i watched the races on mxgp-tv and half of them were not on the broadcast (not even images of the rider getting up).

If i were tv director i would always want to show every crash, even a backmarker. Imo it should als be possible to have a (relatively) low cost solution to have 95% on camera by adding a bunch of go-pro's on fixed positions for "overview" shots so that you can give at least a shot (even if it is from further away on a fixed camera) of a crash.

Uhhhh...did we watch the same race because that seems to be all they showed? (Cut to guy crashed in mud...show some riding...cut to another guy that crashed...show the front runner...cut back to the guy still stuck in the mud.)

NO THANKS!!!

Personally, I want to see the racing not the crashing.



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9/29/2019 9:25 PM

ayearinmx wrote:

i don't think you realise how much rain (and wind) hit the track today..... it was coming in sideways pretty much 90% of race time

I noticed that the cameras that you couldn’t see through properly all faced the same direction, while the ones facing the other way were fine. So that’s pretty much what I thought with the wind just throwing the water in to the lens. It has rained before and there hasn’t been any issues so I assume the weather really was extreme.

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9/29/2019 10:56 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/29/2019 11:36 PM

It was a Utterly Shameful level of Camera work, that trashed the broadcast.

There were 2 to 3 cameras that had consistent vision. Attentive Camera Operators, or shrouding, other 'clear lens' set ups? And, the rest, looked to have No attempt to even manually wipe the lens.

Now, a few might - well will - get their knickers in a knot over this : but, generally, the MXGP casting is good - better than the US Nationals. But, as I wrote at the start, this was a Shameful effort.

But this time, it was beyond belief. I had the Mens Road Race (Roadies, Roadies suck /f**k Dead Toadies!) on my other screen. They had a fair amount of rain to deal with. Hell, moving cameras on Motorcycles had good vision, and, any water on the lens was attended to promptly.

There are plenty of ways to deal with bad weather, with Video Cameras - Shelter, Shrouding, Roll Off type set ups, and, simple fans ( a couple of waterproof Spals do the job) mounted to the sides of the cameras to divert air away from the lens. It works well even in high, near horizontal wind, boys and girls. Then, as a final thing, simply a Camera attendant to wipe the lens, if needed.

That the Directors / Luongo The Drongo didn't see fit to rectify such an ongoing f**k up, is just an indication of how little they really care about the promotion of racing. There will be, justifiably, a Lot of disgruntled customers, especially those that just paid to watch the MXDN as a standalone.

Just pathetic, and it really made a difficult, yet magnificent event, look like amateur hour, on the part of the event coverage.

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9/29/2019 11:10 PM

skyrebel88 wrote:

Mxon cameras for the races are Terrible. It is almost impossible for me to actually watch this race between the rain drops on the camera lens. I have never ever watched a national on tv with such pathetic live viewing. If this is how mxgp records their races I’m happy to have only watched the USA national star up to this point.

Justin who is a camera man and a close friend of mine had the following to say. The TV cameras come with covers and hoods for the lenses. It is not possible to keep the lenses clear of rain drops in adverse conditions. The cameras pivot to follow the action. With rain and wind even an exeperienced camera operator will receive unwanted drops. To much hood over the lense and they will have to deal with fogging.

They can't win.

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9/29/2019 11:17 PM

Boomslang wrote:

Justin who is a camera man and a close friend of mine had the following to say. The TV cameras come with covers and hoods for the lenses. It is not possible to keep the lenses clear of rain drops in adverse conditions. The cameras pivot to follow the action. With rain and wind even an exeperienced camera operator will receive unwanted drops. To much hood over the lense and they will have to deal with fogging.

They can't win.

How MotoGP and F1 can have clear vision when its raining?

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9/29/2019 11:23 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/29/2019 11:44 PM

Seeing how you complained about other people putting words in your mouth, it seems strange that you are doing exactly the same to me... Hypocrite much?

I never said anything about the TV coverage, only about how much rain fell during the day. And I'm pretty sure that only people who were there can comment about how wet and windy it was at the race? Or was your couch in Assen?

As you say, just asking questions...

Ps. Can't comment on the broadcast because I was in the grandstand, just the weather

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9/29/2019 11:47 PM

So... since you did not watch it on TV, went jump in on a thread about the shitty TV coverage.

Bearuno, we may have seen the same bicycle race. I saw some racers in the rain, with cameras on the back of motorcycles. Nary a drop of rain.

This isn't the first windy, rainy sports event ever on TV.

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