Mxgp-tv dissapointment.

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Edited Date/Time 1/23/2022 10:22pm
Been subscribing to mxgp-tv since 2014. I remember watching some old races a few months ago. Turns out that if you want to watch anything from past seasons you’ve already paid for you need to pay an extra 5 euro for an archive pass. As if 99 euros isn’t enough?

Jesus this thing got me fired up! Tbh the only reason to continue to subscribe is Paul Malin. That guy rocks.

Probably still worth the bucks paid, but you don’t pay for something twice.
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Yeah that's complete BS. I guess they've tried to get some more income from somewhere because of the Covid stuff but that is just ridiculous.

Almost as bad as MotoGP charging for live timing even if you pay for the video pass.
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Here is a copy paste from my email exchange with them:

Me:
Hi.

Ive bought mxgp packages for quite a few years. I bought early bird access in december. Why can’t I watch ANY premium videos at all?

Them:

Goldie (MXGP)
Jan 22, 2022, 9:27 GMT+1

Hi.

Thank you for contacting MXGP TV support. My name is Goldie, your dedicated Customer Success Specialist.

We understand how important it is to access the service that you have paid for.

Please refer to the coverage of the Early Bird Season Pass 2022:

LIVE and OnDemand races from all 2022 MXGP events​
LIVE and OnDemand 2022 MXGP MX2 Qualifying or free time practice from all MXGP events​
LIVE and OnDemand Saturday and Sunday EMX and WMX Championships races​
3 days LIVE and OnDemand races from the 2022 Monster Energy FIM Motocross of Nations​
All Exclusive “behind the gate” 2022 Video Magazines
This makes you ready for the new season. Here is the calendar.

Since the previous season has ended, the videos are now archived and you will be able to access them through Archive Pass.

For more details, please see https://www.mxgp-tv.com/subscribe.

We hope that this has been cleared out.

If you may need anything else, please let us know.

Kind Regards,

Goldie
MXGP TV Support Team

Me:

Hello Goldie.

Thank you for your answer. Although it is strange, and inifinetley much better, that you were able to watch the previous seasons races years after as late as 2021. I vividly remember watching some races from 2015 last year or 2017 MXoN a few months ago. My issue is basically I’ve subscribed to watch races live or on demand every season since 2014.

Is it much to ask to be able to watch whatever I want from 2014 and onwards when I’ve already paid for the season passes?

Would you subscribe to Netflix if you had to pay extra for a movie or series released two years ago just because it was released two years ago even though you have subscribed to the service for 5 years? Both you and me would try out Amazon prime or HBO if this was the case.

Kind regards
A non returning customer.
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1/22/2022 5:19am
I’m pretty sure it’s been like this for a couple of years now. One thing I could never get an answer for, why they never had the 2013 season in the archives.
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1/22/2022 5:29am
It's another nice kick in the ass when they just post past, full races, on their YouTube.

Long time subscriber as well, and I've just stopped watching old races unfortunately.

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ktm293 wrote:
It's another nice kick in the ass when they just post past, full races, on their YouTube. Long time subscriber as well, and I've just stopped...
It's another nice kick in the ass when they just post past, full races, on their YouTube.

Long time subscriber as well, and I've just stopped watching old races unfortunately.
Yeah. Annoying to say the least. But hey! We can watch the races on YouTube. Laughing
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Bought the last round. It wouldn’t let me watch the race live. No luck getting a refund. Won’t be back.
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Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives.

It came in last season, just as they went to Cleeng (sp?) for their accounts, I think.

It shits me, but, I'm not going to stop watching The World Championships because of an extra 5 Euros.

I was thinking of trying MotoWorld TV, but I think you might only get the MX2 and MXGP races - I want to see the EMX races, and the Qualifiers if they are back on - I'm not sure if they are going back to them this year?
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I’m pretty sure it’s been like this for a couple of years now. One thing I could never get an answer for, why they never had...
I’m pretty sure it’s been like this for a couple of years now. One thing I could never get an answer for, why they never had the 2013 season in the archives.
I'm pretty sure that change happened this past season. The season before , I was able to go watch races from many years ago. I had thought they just did away with all those old races , as I didn't look into the " Archive " pass thing. It does seem a little shitty to make you pay extra for seasons you already had in the first place.
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1/22/2022 9:49am
jeffro503 wrote:
I'm pretty sure that change happened this past season. The season before , I was able to go watch races from many years ago. I had...
I'm pretty sure that change happened this past season. The season before , I was able to go watch races from many years ago. I had thought they just did away with all those old races , as I didn't look into the " Archive " pass thing. It does seem a little shitty to make you pay extra for seasons you already had in the first place.
It’s almost like buying a beer and paying extra to drink it. Laughing

It sure seems like the supercross video package is a much better deal as of now. I thought the mxgp solution was much better up untill they changed to Cleeng. The player they are using downright sucks. I use a iPhone to stream to my TV through chromecast, but only option you get with the new system is AirPlay. I want my chromecast and MXGP and to live in relative peace in my living room. Not to get pissed on by wonky AirPlay every single time I get to enjoy a cold one and watch some fantastic racing.
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1/22/2022 10:20am
hylo wrote:
Been subscribing to mxgp-tv since 2014. I remember watching some old races a few months ago. Turns out that if you want to watch anything from...
Been subscribing to mxgp-tv since 2014. I remember watching some old races a few months ago. Turns out that if you want to watch anything from past seasons you’ve already paid for you need to pay an extra 5 euro for an archive pass. As if 99 euros isn’t enough?

Jesus this thing got me fired up! Tbh the only reason to continue to subscribe is Paul Malin. That guy rocks.

Probably still worth the bucks paid, but you don’t pay for something twice.
Its not €99.99 Its €119.99 because they add on €20 tax. It was very unclear when i purchased that the tax was extra. I hate that, its so misleading. Dont tell people its one price then slip on the tax.

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1/22/2022 10:42am
hylo wrote:
Been subscribing to mxgp-tv since 2014. I remember watching some old races a few months ago. Turns out that if you want to watch anything from...
Been subscribing to mxgp-tv since 2014. I remember watching some old races a few months ago. Turns out that if you want to watch anything from past seasons you’ve already paid for you need to pay an extra 5 euro for an archive pass. As if 99 euros isn’t enough?

Jesus this thing got me fired up! Tbh the only reason to continue to subscribe is Paul Malin. That guy rocks.

Probably still worth the bucks paid, but you don’t pay for something twice.
Its not €99.99 Its €119.99 because they add on €20 tax. It was very unclear when i purchased that the tax was extra. I hate that...
Its not €99.99 Its €119.99 because they add on €20 tax. It was very unclear when i purchased that the tax was extra. I hate that, its so misleading. Dont tell people its one price then slip on the tax.

Youre right. I was furious when I realize that !
Not honest at all. Absolutely no respect for the customers.
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1/22/2022 11:41am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2022 11:43am
Do you expect honest transactions from Luongo? Really?

They know we will ultimately pay, because the other choice is not being able to watch.

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1/22/2022 12:01pm
The worst part is that you are absolutely right.

I’d expect some form of consistency tho. Not «ok, you pay now bitch! You need this and even though you had this, you need it again».
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1/22/2022 12:13pm
Gents, If enough folks speak with their wallets and hold out I suspect there will 'discounted excess inventory'....
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Luongo and Cleeng are a fearful combination of Rip Off Artists, that's for sure.
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1/22/2022 8:10pm Edited Date/Time 1/22/2022 8:14pm
Cheaper than US SX and more racing.

... and you even get commentary!
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1/23/2022 1:34pm
VanDan wrote:
Cheaper than US SX and more racing.

... and you even get commentary!
The question is not only the price.
But the way they act with people who give them money for many years.
A little more respect would be appreciated.
1/23/2022 2:31pm
Bearuno wrote:
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives...
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives.

It came in last season, just as they went to Cleeng (sp?) for their accounts, I think.

It shits me, but, I'm not going to stop watching The World Championships because of an extra 5 Euros.

I was thinking of trying MotoWorld TV, but I think you might only get the MX2 and MXGP races - I want to see the EMX races, and the Qualifiers if they are back on - I'm not sure if they are going back to them this year?
MotoWorldTV has everything in regards to mxgp including all the EMX racing
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1/23/2022 2:43pm
Bearuno wrote:
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives...
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives.

It came in last season, just as they went to Cleeng (sp?) for their accounts, I think.

It shits me, but, I'm not going to stop watching The World Championships because of an extra 5 Euros.

I was thinking of trying MotoWorld TV, but I think you might only get the MX2 and MXGP races - I want to see the EMX races, and the Qualifiers if they are back on - I'm not sure if they are going back to them this year?
MotoWorldTV has everything in regards to mxgp including all the EMX racing
How much is the full season there? Or do they charge month to month? Video quality good?
1/23/2022 3:23pm
Bearuno wrote:
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives...
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives.

It came in last season, just as they went to Cleeng (sp?) for their accounts, I think.

It shits me, but, I'm not going to stop watching The World Championships because of an extra 5 Euros.

I was thinking of trying MotoWorld TV, but I think you might only get the MX2 and MXGP races - I want to see the EMX races, and the Qualifiers if they are back on - I'm not sure if they are going back to them this year?
MotoWorldTV has everything in regards to mxgp including all the EMX racing
jeffro503 wrote:
How much is the full season there? Or do they charge month to month? Video quality good?
How much is the full season there? Or do they charge month to month? Video quality good?
the full season for mxgp is 35 British pounds, and the video quality is as good as mxgptv if not better as it has had less interruptions
1/23/2022 5:03pm
Well, you "spoke with your wallet" that'll show 'em... now you can use that 104 Euros for something different, and just check in here for results or freeload from some Russian site
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1/23/2022 8:07pm
Bearuno wrote:
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives...
Yes, it sucks that they have chosen to (further) go for the gouge, and demand another 5 Euros = just under $8 AUD, for the archives.

It came in last season, just as they went to Cleeng (sp?) for their accounts, I think.

It shits me, but, I'm not going to stop watching The World Championships because of an extra 5 Euros.

I was thinking of trying MotoWorld TV, but I think you might only get the MX2 and MXGP races - I want to see the EMX races, and the Qualifiers if they are back on - I'm not sure if they are going back to them this year?
MotoWorldTV has everything in regards to mxgp including all the EMX racing
jeffro503 wrote:
How much is the full season there? Or do they charge month to month? Video quality good?
How much is the full season there? Or do they charge month to month? Video quality good?
Here's what I posted on another thread.

That site is as dodgy as it gets.

I signed up not with the intention of buying a package but to confirm what I thought and I was right.

First, to even get onto the site you have to give your name, address and phone number to just to apply to get on to it, all without them telling you who you're giving your personal data to, and why - I made sure all the info wasn't my own and used a junk address. It took a few days for ''approval''.

There is nowhere on their website that identifies who or where they are or who you will be paying. The privacy policy is so...err private it doesn't say whose policy it is and the terms of use and terms & conditions links take you to a 3rd party company selling off-the-shelf policies for websites!

Not only are they trading illegally (certainly in terms of UK and EU laws), their content cannot possibly be legitimately sourced.
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1/23/2022 10:17pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2022 10:21pm
Well, you "spoke with your wallet" that'll show 'em... now you can use that 104 Euros for something different, and just check in here for results...
Well, you "spoke with your wallet" that'll show 'em... now you can use that 104 Euros for something different, and just check in here for results or freeload from some Russian site
My wallet doesnt feel good about this. Far from it to be fair. Commercialization and to make (even more) money out of a site for dedicated enthusiasts of a sport is just sad. I think everyone that has signed up and paid on that site loves the content. The fact Paul Malin and sometimes Emig or JT is on there makes commentary truly epic as well.

Just a shame Cleeng/Luongo is trying to squeeze more money out of something that’s supposed to be a fun hobby and interest of mine. Cleeng -subscriber retention specialist. Retention? Sounds like a fancy way of saying «we find creative ways to get you to pay for content you may have purchased in the past. Oh yeah, we’ll also post races on YouTube, mmmmkay?»

I doubt you’ll find many casual fans on that site. Mostly die hard moto guys there I think. Let us nerd out and bench race. Don’t take more than you need to. That money is most likely going into mx one way or another.

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