Mx Reporting is a joke?

weasel49
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Edited Date/Time 5/3/2012 11:08am
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type of inside scoop. How do we still not know what really happened to JS/Brooks relationship? What about J-law? So many people ask about him and no magazine or website has caught up with him. I hate to bring it up but how in the world do we still not know what bike JS is riding in the summer. Why has no one done a test on neckbraces to see if they are actual safe for us? How about questioning FELD/AMA on some shady shit they do? Weege said during his DMXS interview that the media is suppose to keep everyone honest. Who or what magazine/website is doing that? From what I see and think is MX media is too busy being buddy buddy with riders and teams instead actually reporting news. Every MX website and magazine needs to realize is the teams/rider needs them because no one else is reporting about our sport.
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5/2/2012 7:48am
Yes that's what we all really need to know, what J-Law is doing.
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5/2/2012 7:48am
Maybe JS & Brooks don't want to tell what happened.

Maybe J-Law doesn't want to be caught up with.

Maybe we don't 'know' what JS is riding this summer is because of little things like contracts & non-disclosures & confidentiality.

How do you test neck braces - where are the standards?

You're asking them to just make stuff up, I guess?
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5/2/2012 7:51am
I call bullshit. Yosmithy broke the story long ago, complete with pornogr.....uh, I mean photographic eveidence.


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5/2/2012 7:52am
What's really important is we need more photoshoots of Erin Normoyle in TransworldMX!

SWAP?....

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5/2/2012 7:53am
Yosmithy also cleared up what happened with Andrew and the KTM.


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Well considering no one can still say for sure if it was both the tractor and the trailer stolen or just the tractor from The Team Ohlins/Langston Motorsports/KTM I would say you are correct. The mags say both Vital says just the Tractor , who knows who cares .
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And he also happened to be on site when Alessi was life flighted out of the desert. Amazing how he's always at the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time.


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5/2/2012 7:57am
ns503 wrote:
Maybe JS & Brooks don't want to tell what happened. Maybe J-Law doesn't want to be caught up with. Maybe we don't 'know' what JS is...
Maybe JS & Brooks don't want to tell what happened.

Maybe J-Law doesn't want to be caught up with.

Maybe we don't 'know' what JS is riding this summer is because of little things like contracts & non-disclosures & confidentiality.

How do you test neck braces - where are the standards?

You're asking them to just make stuff up, I guess?
No, I am not saying they should make stuff up but report on what they hear and ask so and so if they care to comment.. If they say no then report it.

Standards for neck brace testing ? Exactly.There is none.
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Well considering no one can still say for sure if it was both the tractor and the trailer stolen or just the tractor from The Team...
Well considering no one can still say for sure if it was both the tractor and the trailer stolen or just the tractor from The Team Ohlins/Langston Motorsports/KTM I would say you are correct. The mags say both Vital says just the Tractor , who knows who cares .
Yosmithy will be along at any moment with a photo of the perp driving off in the John Deere, I mean tractor, uh, umm, ten wheeler?
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weasel49 wrote:
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type...
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type of inside scoop. How do we still not know what really happened to JS/Brooks relationship? What about J-law? So many people ask about him and no magazine or website has caught up with him. I hate to bring it up but how in the world do we still not know what bike JS is riding in the summer. Why has no one done a test on neckbraces to see if they are actual safe for us? How about questioning FELD/AMA on some shady shit they do? Weege said during his DMXS interview that the media is suppose to keep everyone honest. Who or what magazine/website is doing that? From what I see and think is MX media is too busy being buddy buddy with riders and teams instead actually reporting news. Every MX website and magazine needs to realize is the teams/rider needs them because no one else is reporting about our sport.
From the outside looking in it seems like this industry is very "buddy buddy" as you put it. With that type of setup you're not going to have "real" reporting going on because people don't want to piss off friends or people that they rely on to do their job. If this sport ever grows and news media outside of the industry begin covering the sport I think the coverage will begin to change into more traditional sports coverage. But I wouldn't expect any "insider" to dive too deep into the touchy topics.

Just my thoughts on it.
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5/2/2012 8:01am
Those drawings pretty much clear things up for me.
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5/2/2012 8:03am Edited Date/Time 5/2/2012 8:04am
newmann wrote:
And he also happened to be on site when Alessi was life flighted out of the desert. Amazing how he's always at the right/wrong place at...
And he also happened to be on site when Alessi was life flighted out of the desert. Amazing how he's always at the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time.


Newmann- thanks for posting this. I was aware of the other breakthru Yosmithy reports, but until now, I didn't not know exactly what went down out there in the desert. As usual it looks as if the savvy Yossmithy was spot on about this one too.
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5/2/2012 9:04am
weasel49 wrote:
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type...
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type of inside scoop. How do we still not know what really happened to JS/Brooks relationship? What about J-law? So many people ask about him and no magazine or website has caught up with him. I hate to bring it up but how in the world do we still not know what bike JS is riding in the summer. Why has no one done a test on neckbraces to see if they are actual safe for us? How about questioning FELD/AMA on some shady shit they do? Weege said during his DMXS interview that the media is suppose to keep everyone honest. Who or what magazine/website is doing that? From what I see and think is MX media is too busy being buddy buddy with riders and teams instead actually reporting news. Every MX website and magazine needs to realize is the teams/rider needs them because no one else is reporting about our sport.
This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in your private life . Butt out
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5/2/2012 9:11am
"crazy race! talk about it"

That is about as unprofessional as interviewing gets IMO and I hear it all the time. What's next? You stick a mic in front of a rider and just say "talk" and they carry the whole interview? I mean, come on, think up a specific and intelligent question for crying out loud.

Done with rant.
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5/2/2012 9:14am
There is no money in SX/MX reporting, as the general fan base isn't willing to pay for information. No money = no means to finance an operation to fully investigate off-track issues and incidents.

When a reporter cannot earn a living reporting on his assigned sport, then relationships and confidentiality take precendence. For these guys, their first breaking story could be their last.
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5/2/2012 9:22am
Hey......honestly....I can see where the OP is coming from. This sport is still small enough that a lot of people stay close , and to dig dirt up on "your friend" is sometimes looked down on.

Reality is......it will be like this for a long time until the sport becomes more main stream. In the more main steam sports.....news comes out.....shit hits the fan and it's on TV on the same day. Here.....it could be a fucking decade before you hear about anything.

Fwiw.......I have gotten a lot of my inside info over the years from riders themselves. A lot of it is stuff I wouldn't ever repeat on a message board because I would like to keep those friendships alive. The reporters in this Biz think the same way......why burn a Friend to report something to the rest of the world? This is why you don't see to much of it I think. Once you burn that bridge.....the trust is gone.....you won't get shit afterwords......you might as well pack up shop.
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5/2/2012 9:27am
I don't know about that weasel?

There's a lot of good reporting coming right through Vital if you look past the forums...
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weasel49 wrote:
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type...
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type of inside scoop. How do we still not know what really happened to JS/Brooks relationship? What about J-law? So many people ask about him and no magazine or website has caught up with him. I hate to bring it up but how in the world do we still not know what bike JS is riding in the summer. Why has no one done a test on neckbraces to see if they are actual safe for us? How about questioning FELD/AMA on some shady shit they do? Weege said during his DMXS interview that the media is suppose to keep everyone honest. Who or what magazine/website is doing that? From what I see and think is MX media is too busy being buddy buddy with riders and teams instead actually reporting news. Every MX website and magazine needs to realize is the teams/rider needs them because no one else is reporting about our sport.
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This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in...
This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in your private life . Butt out
Yes but they are dependent on their fan base. Helps them get more money from their sponsors come contract time. Hiding from the media doesn't always help their cause.
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You're often at the mercy of how honest and open people want to be. And that's not always as honest and open as you'd like them to be, when you want them to be.
5/2/2012 10:03am
I htink the DMXS show with Weege and Matthes did a pretty good job explaining the secrecy culture at the races and what happens when you want to report something that people want kept in the dark.
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MR. X wrote:
This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in...
This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in your private life . Butt out
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weasel49 wrote:
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type...
Does anyone else think that? Matthes seems to be the only one that says what he thinks. But he and no one else gives any type of inside scoop. How do we still not know what really happened to JS/Brooks relationship? What about J-law? So many people ask about him and no magazine or website has caught up with him. I hate to bring it up but how in the world do we still not know what bike JS is riding in the summer. Why has no one done a test on neckbraces to see if they are actual safe for us? How about questioning FELD/AMA on some shady shit they do? Weege said during his DMXS interview that the media is suppose to keep everyone honest. Who or what magazine/website is doing that? From what I see and think is MX media is too busy being buddy buddy with riders and teams instead actually reporting news. Every MX website and magazine needs to realize is the teams/rider needs them because no one else is reporting about our sport.
MR. X wrote:
This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in...
This isnt jersey shores , stuff happens in peoples private lifes should stay private . How would like to share with everybody everything that happens in your private life . Butt out
Mr X I think your wife has been posting on your account again, and if not then you need to trun in your balls because you have been kicked out of the Man club.
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TX24 wrote:
Those drawings pretty much clear things up for me.
x2 way better than reading most of the posts.

As for the Brooks JS drama, I remember reading in MXA that when larry wants to talk they will cover it. My guess is that there is some kind of NDA that keeps him from talking.

You guys have to remember that the sport is so small that one of the manufacturers withheld test bikes because they didn't like hearing that their bike was a pile.
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5/2/2012 10:15am
Has there ever been an interivew with James about his police antics? If this were any other professional sport there would have been all kinds of investigative journalism going on..leads me to believe that people just don't take our sport seriously.
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5/2/2012 10:29am
when is Erin Normoyle going to release a video of the "Cat Daddy" dance?

Kate Upton btw

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5/2/2012 11:55am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there is only one consumer publication covering our sport with the actual term "news" in it's title (Cycle News); all the rest are "enthusiast publications," and while they may "report" events and happenings, it would be a mistake to assume that they are, or even should be, the type of news organizations the OP wishes they were.

On the other hand, one could also make the argument that political reporting is a joke, too, based on the sheer amount of shenanigans that take place in Congress that are either ignored or softplayed by the supposedly "real" journalists of the mainstream media.
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Pdub wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there is only one consumer publication covering our sport with the actual term "news" in it's title (Cycle...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there is only one consumer publication covering our sport with the actual term "news" in it's title (Cycle News); all the rest are "enthusiast publications," and while they may "report" events and happenings, it would be a mistake to assume that they are, or even should be, the type of news organizations the OP wishes they were.

On the other hand, one could also make the argument that political reporting is a joke, too, based on the sheer amount of shenanigans that take place in Congress that are either ignored or softplayed by the supposedly "real" journalists of the mainstream media.
we will have non of that in here !!
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I agree 100% that the "reporters" around here are a joke. For instance everyone knows for a fact that Mathes knows what is going on with Stewart, but he is afraid to say anything because JGR may get mad at him. Everything you see that comes from pulpmx or racerx is the same thing that we watched or heard on t.v. When they do private interviews they ask the same questions that was answered on the podium after the race. The other dumb part is the fact that it is Wednesday and we will still be seeing interviews being released that they did after the race 5 days ago. But government tax dollars are hard at work once again. Some guys need to quit being pussies and ask what they are thinking, do half these "reporters" actually think these team owners/ factory guys actually like them?

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