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This should be a fun off-season, and a productive one. And it's already started.
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Does it help the riders ?
Hopefully the payouts will be porportional to the new found sponsorship money
Half full or half empty?
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MX Fans everywhere
Very lucky there weren't more crashes in the first moto due to that snotty, shitty, lakebed dirt. It wasn't good, didn't look good TV, and isn't good for the sport in general, imo. Don't get me wrong, I love the live TV, but don't sacrifice important things like the track to get it.
I realize Im a peon in the grand scheme of things and to get right down to it, its none of my business. But after seeing what Tony went through, Id just leave the cows on the pasture, the cash in a portfolio and go fishing.
Sam Gammon, who runs Muddy Creek, has been around a long time and operates probably some of the most successful races series', indoor and out, on the east coast, so he's not a sketchy promoter on a sketchy property.
Just as the planets aligned for Tony, this time they all aligned for Sam.
The good thing for Tony, and smart thing on his part, is that he's taking it in stride and knows that he may get his race back when an opportunity opens up, but people have been demanding (crying for) a racing in the SE ever since Gatorback went away...though I don't see the Tri-cities area of TN as the "Southeast"
I think it's only a couple hours difference, driving time, between the two for me....it's pretty far north for us, just as Texas is pretty far west
But I also saw some damn good second moto 250 battles, just as at MMP.
Villo's clinic made both "horrible" tracks look like a walk in park. I'll watch that anywhere, but preferably in difficult situations.
http://www.racerxonline.com/2013/08/26/monday-convo-ryan-villopoto
Q. And what did you think of the track conditions? Obviously everyone has their own opinion. Everyone said it was kind of dusty, kind of tricky. What did you think?
RV: It’s so-so. Maybe this is the way the sport’s going, the sport’s moving, is kind of these stage style outdoor tracks, kind of like a little supercross with all the jumps. It’s good for the fans. It’s sometimes hard to get some really good dirt, and that’s the problem with the way this place is right here.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it sure sounds to me that the riders (or at least RV) don't like the "stage style" man-made tracks at Elsinore and Utah.
If the top riders aren't happy with the tracks, how long will they stick around to produce the product?
Tony is taking it in stride cuz he's one of the most laid back persons ever, but what choice does he have but to grin and bear it? His cash is spent, his property physically altered. I know he'd prolly never answer the question and who am I to guess whats in his head, but Id guess if you woulda told him he would only get a handful of Nationals and then lose the race, I doubt he'd ever fooled the entire endeavor to begin with.
Thanks for the info on all that.
Lesson learned.
P.S.
Oh wait I know... it's all that pent up anger from losing GATORBACK all those years ago... yes, HELLO, still holding on to that one
I give mega applause and accolades to DC and MX sports for what they’ve accomplished and where they’re taking the series. Here’s a suggestion for those complaining their favorite track Glen Helen isn’t on the schedule of 12 races….next time they’re accepting bids for the series, and you and your buddies are upset because GH isn’t on the schedule, then you should put together a group like mx sports, NPG, DMG, or youthstream, and bid / compete against these guys so you can run the series how you see fit, add or subtract whatever tracks you want or don’t want, grow the sport how you want, and payout millions in prize money to the guys riding around in 30th – 40th place.
Pit Row
That being said, if it's at Glen Helen I will go there to watch it. Just like I did for every national that's been run there.
If it's at a track like Elsinore or even Pala, I will stay home and watch it on TV, just like most of the Southern California fans have chosen to do.
Wish it wasnt true.
That being said, if there isn't a better National-caliber track and facility available in SoCal then, in the interest of the sport, a return to GH makes sense. We've been hearing about some good stuff that will be announced soon so hopefully that will translate into the Nationals getting back on track. (Pun intended)
Just my opinion, but based upon what has happened within the sport this year, as well as the weak economy, I see GH returning to the National schedule soon, perhaps within a couple years. I also see Southwick returning.
Pulpcast with RV2 after Elsinore:
Matthes: How was the track today? Better or worse than miller? I thought it was prepped better.
Villapoto: I thought Miller was better. um it's tough because kinda these are new tracks.. kinda like stadium style tracks, lots of jumps, kind of supercrossy.
Matthes: Neither one's your favorite.
Villapoto: Nah, no, for sure.. I wouldn't say they were great, ya know but what can they do.
Pulpcast with Mitch after Elsinore
Matthes: Hey I wanna get your take on the last two tracks here [MMP & Elsinore].. if you read the internet a lot of people feel like motocross is going downhill being ruined. What's your take on these facilities?
Payton: Hold on... My eyes are shut because the dust is blowing in my eyes.
Matthes: Ya, it's gnarly. What's going on?
Payton:: We're in a sandstorm, in the bottom of a dry lake. Lake Elsinore is right there this is like push-off from it. Blow sand. Um. I didn't think.. and I hate to say that, because Miller Motorsports, the facility is fantastic. I thought the track was a little bit... not.. good. And I thought Elsinore was better than I expected it to be but I thought it still not good. My opinion is we're 30 minutes away from Glen Helen and that's a national track. If we're serious aboug giving the fans and the teams and riders what they expect, I think we need to be at a national track. Looking at... no I don't. I, uh.. I don't...
Matthes: If you're buddies wiht Davey or buddies with Bud...
Payton: No, I like all of them but I just there needs to be... you know, they need to make peace. That's the best thing we got in Southern California. For the nationals when they rip it, and you got the hills and you can watch and you can see. You don't get to watch 3 corners. It's a facility that is out here perfect for a national, and that's why it used to have a national. If the right people talk and they have sense that's what we need to go back to it. I pray that they do that because the fans are not gonna continue to come to these flat, uh, events like this. I don't think they get an opportunity to watch the guys that much.
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