Motocross Action 2021 450 Shootout

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3/16/2021 10:27 AM

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

3/16/2021 11:02 AM

Without looking.... imma gonna guess ktm wins.... hehehe

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3/16/2021 11:05 AM

Add a tooth to the rear sprocket

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3/16/2021 11:05 AM

My money is on the RMZ 450 this year. Stamp it

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3/16/2021 11:11 AM

The test literally no one was waiting for...

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3/16/2021 1:04 PM

I liked it. Confirms next bike likely white. Japanese manufactures need to go Jenny Craig weight loss program. 15lbs big difference.

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3/16/2021 1:06 PM

gt80rider wrote:

Without looking.... imma gonna guess ktm wins.... hehehe

"If you don't want the lightest bike with the best brakes… etc.. " mxa quote from the ktm test

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3/16/2021 1:14 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2021 2:20 PM

Kyle978 wrote:

The test literally no one was waiting for...

And here come the MXA Triggered Vitards...

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"I love the smell of race gas in the morning"

3/16/2021 1:18 PM

Cool, I was needing to get more toilet paper this week

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

3/16/2021 1:25 PM

Kyle978 wrote:

The test literally no one was waiting for...

well its the only 1 id bother to look at..

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3/16/2021 1:25 PM

Bruce372 wrote:

My money is on the RMZ 450 this year. Stamp it

My skills and body have eroded over the years. The Suzuki understands me. tongue

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3/16/2021 1:26 PM

gt80rider wrote:

Without looking.... imma gonna guess ktm wins.... hehehe

Lightning78 wrote:

"If you don't want the lightest bike with the best brakes… etc.. " mxa quote from the ktm test

not enough spelling errors

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3/16/2021 1:39 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2021 1:49 PM

Kyle978 wrote:

The test literally no one was waiting for...

Titanium wrote:

And here come the MXA Triggered Vitards...

Just glancing at the one pager above, it’s like there was a contest to see who could get in the most smartass jabs at each of the Japanese brands. Even when they act like they’re describing a positive trait, they shroud it in negativity.

Meanwhile, comments on the Austrian bikes read like a press release without a single critical word against any of them.

Seems fair, right?

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3/16/2021 1:45 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2021 1:45 PM

Kyle978 wrote:

The test literally no one was waiting for...

Titanium wrote:

And here come the MXA Triggered Vitards...

Broseph wrote:

Just glancing at the one pager above, it’s like there was a contest to see who could get in the most smartass jabs at each of ...more

100% agree with your comments....you see the bias straight away

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

3/16/2021 1:46 PM

I can't think of a motorcycle opinion I think less of than I do MXA's

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

3/16/2021 1:47 PM

Unless I missed something when a glanced over it, they don’t even rank them......and yes, a KTM (Husky) wins. Pretty piss poor shootout compared to some of the others.

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3/16/2021 1:55 PM

Kyle978 wrote:

The test literally no one was waiting for...

Titanium wrote:

And here come the MXA Triggered Vitards...

Broseph wrote:

Just glancing at the one pager above, it’s like there was a contest to see who could get in the most smartass jabs at each of ...more

I love how they rip on the CRF “as it comes” from the factory (despite a free ecu update) but all praise for the GasGas after adding a KTM map switch and different tires than, wait for it... what it came with from the factory.

Crap like this is why I only even mildly entertain Vital and RacerX/Keefer for tests.

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3/16/2021 1:56 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

I can't think of a motorcycle opinion I think less of than I do MXA's

Good thing MXA is not a motorcycle. grin

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3/16/2021 2:25 PM

Titanium wrote:

And here come the MXA Triggered Vitards...

Broseph wrote:

Just glancing at the one pager above, it’s like there was a contest to see who could get in the most smartass jabs at each of ...more

Yeti831 wrote:

I love how they rip on the CRF “as it comes” from the factory (despite a free ecu update) but all praise for the GasGas after ...more

Yup, they cant bag on the clutch because Honda gave it a hydro, they cant moan about twin pipes anymore, they SHOULDNT talk about the ECU issues influencing the results as they have had the reflash for sometime now and should be based on that reflash (acknowledging though that it should of been ok from the factory)...so the only thing left is suspension, the forks they rip into are not bad just not exceptional from the factory like 2 or 3 others ..... so 2022 should be interesting.

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

3/16/2021 2:28 PM

I’m glad I stopped subscribing to their lousy journalism.

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3/16/2021 2:37 PM

The aspect of the MXA shoot-out that I like is that they spend a decent period of time and learn what wears out and what doesn't.

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3/16/2021 2:46 PM

TeamGreen wrote:

The aspect of the MXA shoot-out that I like is that they spend a decent period of time and learn what wears out and what ...more

I agree except there is little mention of that.....

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

3/16/2021 2:49 PM

I can’t wait until their yearly 125 shootout where they test (now) 3 KTMs against each other and a 20 year old YZ125. Some great stuff there!

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

3/16/2021 2:52 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

I can’t wait until their yearly 125 shootout where they test (now) 3 KTMs against each other and a 20 year old YZ125. Some ...more

They need to add Fantic and TM...and isn't Beta working on a 125 MXer?

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Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals. I get my back into my living. I don't need to fight, to prove I'm right. I don't need to be forgiven.

3/16/2021 3:08 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

I can’t wait until their yearly 125 shootout where they test (now) 3 KTMs against each other and a 20 year old YZ125. Some ...more

TeamGreen wrote:

They need to add Fantic and TM...and isn't Beta working on a 125 MXer?

They should, but it doesn't really matter, doesn't It?

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3/16/2021 3:09 PM

MXA has themselves obsolete. Their extreme bias and Jodys ego is so annoying, nothing is really worth reading anymore.

Back in the day they use to be pretty close. in recent years, however, they must be riding different bikes from the ones I own cause they are completely off on most things they say.

Plus everybody has figured out the trick of them travelling to Japan, seeing the next years bikes at the factory (cause bikes are always built a year in advance) and then coming back and acting like THEY got the factory to change it.

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3/16/2021 3:29 PM

That first paragraph before the shootout is horrible. I had their arrogant thinking that they are better than anyone else that does shootouts. And what makes them more qualified testers than anyone else? They never miss a shot at trying to make themselves look better while shitting on everyone else.

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3/16/2021 4:16 PM

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

3/16/2021 4:34 PM

Things I don't like about MXA: its impolite to talk about how awesome you are. If you have to talk about it, you usually aren't.

Things I like about MXA: they are usually right about bikes, even when I don't like that they are right. I used to hate them for being "Honda biased" back when I bled KX lime green, then I bought a CR and realized they were right. Same story repeated over the years for me.

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3/16/2021 4:38 PM

280driver wrote:

Unless I missed something when a glanced over it, they don’t even rank them......and yes, a KTM (Husky) wins. Pretty piss poor ...more

These all seem to be quotes from the single tests in a mash-up here.

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