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Without reading all the posts I will leave you with this:

Getting a job in the industry is easy or hard. Dealer or race team? The race team thing will require you to either know people, or be really great at networking, marketing yourself, etc.

I worked in the industry in racing for a little while and it definitely changes the sport for you. The "romance" of the industry goes POOF! I used to love watching and going to races. I loved imaging what might be happening, staring at the bikes, etc. That is all gone. This probably sounds ridiculously jaded of me, but it seems to be the case for a lot of my friends who are in the industry. If getting a job in the industry is you searching for a "romantic" career, then I suggest looking elsewhere. It generally pays like crap, too.

If you want the romance of being an insider and still want to be enthusiastic about the sport, I suggest getting a job outside of the industry and making a ton of friends in the industry. Keep social and professional lives separated, IMO.
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2/22/2017 2:20pm
Get a camera and work for Vital and make the big Photo Money. 6 figure income. Ask Guy.
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Get in on the creative side: video, photography, design, etc.

This sport will always have an endless need for people with a strong aesthetic.
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Mr. Info wrote:
Get a camera and work for Vital and make the big Photo Money. 6 figure income. Ask Guy.


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2/22/2017 3:09pm
dcorbett62 wrote:
Is it even realistic to try to get a job in the industry?
Today is my 15 year anniversary as a road rep in Eastern Nebraska, South Eastern South Dakota and the Western edge of Iowa for Tucker Rocky Distributing.
I've been riding since the early 70's and, other than my college years, I've been working in the industry since 1984.

I'm still very passionate about the industry...I spend my drive time listening to Pulp MX, DMXS Radio and Main Event Moto. My entire family rides most weekends when the school year comes to an end. With the exception of a two very brief stints in the food service industry during high school I've made a carreer out of selling fun.

Working in an industry you are passionate about makes waking up each day just a little bit easier. But, it's not for everybody...you still have to find a work/family balance. The lines between work and fun get blurred from time to time but, more often then not, your work becomes fun...sometimes your fun becomes work but not very often.

I was fortunate enough to get involved with a store that allowed and encouraged staff growth and development. As a result there are quite a few employees I worked with that have carved quite the path through the powersports industry. The best place to start is in a locally owned, progressive dealer. It's damn near impossible to find a rep job without significant dealership experience. Another option is to become a gear guy for one of the apparel brands...you'll travel a bunch but if you do a good job you'll move up rather quickly. There are some significant people in our industry that started as gear reps.

The qualities that make you successful in the powersports industry are the same qualities that make you successful in most industries...do some research, find the right fit, and go for it. I still get paid to drive around and hang out in motorcycle shops!
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Get in on the creative side: video, photography, design, etc. This sport will always have an endless need for people with a strong aesthetic.
Get in on the creative side: video, photography, design, etc.

This sport will always have an endless need for people with a strong aesthetic.
This...

Or own your own business. I'd suggest starting it out as a side gig and keeping it that way until it has grown to the point where it becomes a necessity to go full time.

As far as getting burnt out like people are saying, if you focus more on the business side of things rather than turning wrenches, I don't think you'll get burnt out very quickly if at all. At least thats the way I look at it. I don't see how you can get burnt out from just "being around" something that you're very passionate about. However if you're turning wrenches and doing manual labor I can see how that may make you not want to work on your own bikes or not want to ride... I'm going through it now except with cars instead of bikes. Stopped doing side jobs, never wanted to work on my race car, ended up selling the car, and that was that. I miss it but I have no desire to get back into it cause I'm busting my ass working on cars all day long and that just killed it for me. I just don't think I'd be feeling burnt out if I was just "around it" doing something administrative or sales related rather than doing difficult manual labor for less than fair pay.

Just my perspective on things. Something media related or owning a business are the best ways to go in my opinion. Though neither are easy and will require a huge amount of hustle and hard work.
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If you're relatively young and want to live, eat breathe motorcycles above all else, go for it! If you're like most of us and want a steady paycheck, good benefits and a flexible work/life balance, you may want to consider something else
2/22/2017 3:34pm
I work in the industry and love it. Yeah the pay isn't out of this world but I make dirt bikes for a living and hang out at races. We are also always looking for people that have the Moto passion..,,.
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mxdude105 wrote:
If you're relatively young and want to live, eat breathe motorcycles above all else, go for it! If you're like most of us and want a...
If you're relatively young and want to live, eat breathe motorcycles above all else, go for it! If you're like most of us and want a steady paycheck, good benefits and a flexible work/life balance, you may want to consider something else
Indeed. i worked in F1 for 4 years , the guys who were on the race team, were hooked on the money and being able to look good, but aside of that , the travel and hours burn them out , i was lucky that i didnt have to travel, but it still ground the life out of me to the point where i had to get out , being expected to work , when you wanted to be out doing family stuff or riding wasnt for me.

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2/22/2017 5:01pm
man you guys all have some valid points. that's the last thing i want to do is get burnt out of something i'm really passionate about.
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2/22/2017 6:07pm
dcorbett62 wrote:
Is it even realistic to try to get a job in the industry?
If you want it bad enough and are willing to do whatever it takes to get it, you CAN get in.........never quit working harder than everyone around you, never take no for an answer, and never even think of quitting no matter how futile it looks.

Its also very important that people like you and want to do things for you, also make sure that you don't screw up expensive things.........Create value in yourself, never make it seem that you don't have everything handled, even if you have no idea what your doing......basically make yourself indispensable in every way and people will notice and you will get work.

If you have absolutely no way into the inner sanctum.....then plan on attending every race, getting a pit pass anyway you can.....and going to work once in.....stay away from the big teams and concentrate on the broke privateers in the back of the pits.....mostly just get a recognizable face around the pits do a lot of work for free and someone will appreciate that you're different than others and you will find work.

Don't give up until you get where you want to be.....believe me, very few people are actually willing to do WHATEVER it takes to get to the end goal, too many stop trying when things get tough. Work hard, don't be a dick, and never ever ever burn bridges no matter how bad you want to. GOOD LUCK. And get used to being broke. But at least you'll have a smile on your face..
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2/22/2017 6:23pm
Wow, look at all these experts, wow....

We should be able to resolve world hunger with this kinda expertise hanging around...
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Man if you're single, no kids, go for it. I did. When I was in high school, I started helping out at the race tracks and eventually worked for them full time for a season. During that time, I met a lot of great families, including the owner of the track who was a former pro. I loved to wrench, so I started working on his bikes for free, and a couple of other guys. I ended up having two guys make it to lorettas, one in 50+ and the other in 25+, the same year Ricky was in it. I got to hangout and bullshit with Ricky and Big Rick in staging for about half an hour and we had the gate next to Ricky for the first moto. That was awesome! Anyways, after that summer, a dad of a local fast kid knew people in the industry and got the job as mechanic for a factory amateur rider with Rockstar Suzuki at the time. I stayed with him full time living in Ronnie Tichenors basement for very little pay, but it was a blast. I stayed with him until he got hurt then I came home for a few months until I saw a privateer on Facebook needed a mechanic. Got in touch with him and ended up doing New Jersey SX, and Las Vegas SX and majority of the outdoors until he got a concussion at Millville. At that point, I was over it. I lived with him and his girlfriend in the motor home and we drove to all the races. They introduced me to a ton of great people and they are great people themselves. Anyways, came after Millville and went to work at a bar downtown nashville, met a girl, got her pregnant fast forward three years and I work at a dealership as a tech full time. I specialize in Polaris Rzrs and Can-am as well as a accessories specialist. I'm certified in almost every OEM, and the dealership pays me to train and they send me to all of the training classes. Never had to go to MMI or any other school. I also have a shop at my house where I build race bikes and do other work for local pros. I work about 55-65 hours a week, but I have made a decent living for a 22 yr old. It also helps that I have a wife that works, though she doesn't make great money(1/2 of what I make) it helps. I'm still young and with all the people I have met and will continue to meet, I plan to move through various positions in the industry. I haven't ridden in over three years, though I plan to get a bike going soon.
If you're going to do it, make sure you're ready to work, and work for cheap, very cheap. I lost about 15-20 pounds when I went on the road. You eat what the rider eats. But as I sit here typing this, I wouldn't trade all the memories for nothing. I've been able to do things and see things in this industry that most will never see. I eat,sleep and breathe this stuff, every day. I built 2 motors today from the crank up and this is the first night in three weeks that I've actually got to spend time with my family. You sacrifice a lot, but for me it has just become a way of life and thankfully my wife is cool with it.
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2/22/2017 8:48pm
rubarb wrote:
Wow, look at all these experts, wow....

We should be able to resolve world hunger with this kinda expertise hanging around...
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rubarb wrote:
Wow, look at all these experts, wow....

We should be able to resolve world hunger with this kinda expertise hanging around...
With a name like Rubarb you should be passing out pie. This would defiantly help world hunger.
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Man if you're single, no kids, go for it. I did. When I was in high school, I started helping out at the race tracks and...
Man if you're single, no kids, go for it. I did. When I was in high school, I started helping out at the race tracks and eventually worked for them full time for a season. During that time, I met a lot of great families, including the owner of the track who was a former pro. I loved to wrench, so I started working on his bikes for free, and a couple of other guys. I ended up having two guys make it to lorettas, one in 50+ and the other in 25+, the same year Ricky was in it. I got to hangout and bullshit with Ricky and Big Rick in staging for about half an hour and we had the gate next to Ricky for the first moto. That was awesome! Anyways, after that summer, a dad of a local fast kid knew people in the industry and got the job as mechanic for a factory amateur rider with Rockstar Suzuki at the time. I stayed with him full time living in Ronnie Tichenors basement for very little pay, but it was a blast. I stayed with him until he got hurt then I came home for a few months until I saw a privateer on Facebook needed a mechanic. Got in touch with him and ended up doing New Jersey SX, and Las Vegas SX and majority of the outdoors until he got a concussion at Millville. At that point, I was over it. I lived with him and his girlfriend in the motor home and we drove to all the races. They introduced me to a ton of great people and they are great people themselves. Anyways, came after Millville and went to work at a bar downtown nashville, met a girl, got her pregnant fast forward three years and I work at a dealership as a tech full time. I specialize in Polaris Rzrs and Can-am as well as a accessories specialist. I'm certified in almost every OEM, and the dealership pays me to train and they send me to all of the training classes. Never had to go to MMI or any other school. I also have a shop at my house where I build race bikes and do other work for local pros. I work about 55-65 hours a week, but I have made a decent living for a 22 yr old. It also helps that I have a wife that works, though she doesn't make great money(1/2 of what I make) it helps. I'm still young and with all the people I have met and will continue to meet, I plan to move through various positions in the industry. I haven't ridden in over three years, though I plan to get a bike going soon.
If you're going to do it, make sure you're ready to work, and work for cheap, very cheap. I lost about 15-20 pounds when I went on the road. You eat what the rider eats. But as I sit here typing this, I wouldn't trade all the memories for nothing. I've been able to do things and see things in this industry that most will never see. I eat,sleep and breathe this stuff, every day. I built 2 motors today from the crank up and this is the first night in three weeks that I've actually got to spend time with my family. You sacrifice a lot, but for me it has just become a way of life and thankfully my wife is cool with it.
The main issue with "being in the industry" is the nut sucking one has to do to survive. Its the same for surfing.
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Man if you're single, no kids, go for it. I did. When I was in high school, I started helping out at the race tracks and...
Man if you're single, no kids, go for it. I did. When I was in high school, I started helping out at the race tracks and eventually worked for them full time for a season. During that time, I met a lot of great families, including the owner of the track who was a former pro. I loved to wrench, so I started working on his bikes for free, and a couple of other guys. I ended up having two guys make it to lorettas, one in 50+ and the other in 25+, the same year Ricky was in it. I got to hangout and bullshit with Ricky and Big Rick in staging for about half an hour and we had the gate next to Ricky for the first moto. That was awesome! Anyways, after that summer, a dad of a local fast kid knew people in the industry and got the job as mechanic for a factory amateur rider with Rockstar Suzuki at the time. I stayed with him full time living in Ronnie Tichenors basement for very little pay, but it was a blast. I stayed with him until he got hurt then I came home for a few months until I saw a privateer on Facebook needed a mechanic. Got in touch with him and ended up doing New Jersey SX, and Las Vegas SX and majority of the outdoors until he got a concussion at Millville. At that point, I was over it. I lived with him and his girlfriend in the motor home and we drove to all the races. They introduced me to a ton of great people and they are great people themselves. Anyways, came after Millville and went to work at a bar downtown nashville, met a girl, got her pregnant fast forward three years and I work at a dealership as a tech full time. I specialize in Polaris Rzrs and Can-am as well as a accessories specialist. I'm certified in almost every OEM, and the dealership pays me to train and they send me to all of the training classes. Never had to go to MMI or any other school. I also have a shop at my house where I build race bikes and do other work for local pros. I work about 55-65 hours a week, but I have made a decent living for a 22 yr old. It also helps that I have a wife that works, though she doesn't make great money(1/2 of what I make) it helps. I'm still young and with all the people I have met and will continue to meet, I plan to move through various positions in the industry. I haven't ridden in over three years, though I plan to get a bike going soon.
If you're going to do it, make sure you're ready to work, and work for cheap, very cheap. I lost about 15-20 pounds when I went on the road. You eat what the rider eats. But as I sit here typing this, I wouldn't trade all the memories for nothing. I've been able to do things and see things in this industry that most will never see. I eat,sleep and breathe this stuff, every day. I built 2 motors today from the crank up and this is the first night in three weeks that I've actually got to spend time with my family. You sacrifice a lot, but for me it has just become a way of life and thankfully my wife is cool with it.
rubarb wrote:
The main issue with "being in the industry" is the nut sucking one has to do to survive. Its the same for surfing.
I wouldn't say that. I never really had to kiss ass, just work my ass off. If I was low on money, because I practically made none, they would get my meals or whatever. And at the dealer level, I stay in my corner and turn my wrenches. I don't have to kiss anyone's ass, save for my GM occasionally. One benefit I have though is being with one of the larger dealers that has several different stores and lots of money. And I get bro deals on just about anything I want.
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Ian, you sound a hell of a lot older / more mature than 22 my friend! Good for you, and good advice.
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I work in the industry , sort of. I mean I sit in the office of a big company in the industry designing stuff to make stuff look better than what it is.

I hate it, my boss is faster, taller, meaner than me and slaps my ass and screams BRAAAAP every time Im using the urinal. If he wasnt the owners son I would beat him up.

If its a team job you want, be willing to work hard for pennies and talk to everyone you can respectfully and make friends. If you work, make plenty of friends you can make a good living someday.
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2/23/2017 7:05pm Edited Date/Time 2/23/2017 7:11pm
Graybeard wrote:
Ian, you sound a hell of a lot older / more mature than 22 my friend! Good for you, and good advice.
Thank you! I'm 22 and will be 23 in April. I was blessed to have supportive parents. I started working hard when I was 16 and it just kept evolving, and thankfully I was so young, the only money I needed was for Gatorade and peanut butter and honey sandwiches. I lived on that diet for a few years lol. But it didn't matter, I was living the life. It's crazy, no one ever believes when I say I'm 23 and tell them all that I've done. Moto has shown me amazing things and taught me that if you don't work harder than the guy next to you, you will be over looked. So I lived by that and still do.
It also helps that my best friend (kripple428 on here), when we were kids, because we raced and went against what most other kids did, we were often overlooked and people thought we would never amount to much because we wanted to be mechanics. He's 23 and he has worked for Roushe Yates as a NASCAR motor builder, and now works at one of the nations best diesel performance shops. We both have a work ethic like no other and we aren't ok with settling. When you settle, you have given up. At least that's how we look at it. But we use each other as motivation
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DMG wrote:
I work in the industry , sort of. I mean I sit in the office of a big company in the industry designing stuff to make...
I work in the industry , sort of. I mean I sit in the office of a big company in the industry designing stuff to make stuff look better than what it is.

I hate it, my boss is faster, taller, meaner than me and slaps my ass and screams BRAAAAP every time Im using the urinal. If he wasnt the owners son I would beat him up.

If its a team job you want, be willing to work hard for pennies and talk to everyone you can respectfully and make friends. If you work, make plenty of friends you can make a good living someday.
You sound like the kind of guy that's never even ridden a dirt bike.
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Thank you! I'm 22 and will be 23 in April. I was blessed to have supportive parents. I started working hard when I was 16 and...
Thank you! I'm 22 and will be 23 in April. I was blessed to have supportive parents. I started working hard when I was 16 and it just kept evolving, and thankfully I was so young, the only money I needed was for Gatorade and peanut butter and honey sandwiches. I lived on that diet for a few years lol. But it didn't matter, I was living the life. It's crazy, no one ever believes when I say I'm 23 and tell them all that I've done. Moto has shown me amazing things and taught me that if you don't work harder than the guy next to you, you will be over looked. So I lived by that and still do.
It also helps that my best friend (kripple428 on here), when we were kids, because we raced and went against what most other kids did, we were often overlooked and people thought we would never amount to much because we wanted to be mechanics. He's 23 and he has worked for Roushe Yates as a NASCAR motor builder, and now works at one of the nations best diesel performance shops. We both have a work ethic like no other and we aren't ok with settling. When you settle, you have given up. At least that's how we look at it. But we use each other as motivation
You're definitely not 22, lol! Your statement about working harder than everyone else is spot on--it's been true for decades. Do that, you'll get to wherever you want to be. And I hear you about the low budget life, when I was young, making next to nothing but racing twice a week, I lived on PBJ sandwiches, and believe it or not, I still can't eat anything other than bananas and peanut better and jelly sandwiches at the track!
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dcorbett62 wrote:
Is it even realistic to try to get a job in the industry?
A realistic response to your question,no. To hit it out of the ballpark,absolutely not. I will mention in support (sort of) "The Industry", there is nothing else quite like but it is a little one dimensional. Don't confuse love for moto with working in "the Industry" its not the same thing will jeopardize your true enjoyment of moto in some way working in "The Industry".

There are many unqualified individuals in "Leadership" positions that also lack the diplomacy and people skills (soft skills) needed to nurture, promote "The Industry" and grow a career; and there is no resolve if you ever decided to really consider career growth long term. "The Industry" has bad habit of offering no real compensation. The Politics: Getting favors from "Industry Leadership" and you will owe the favors back at some point as this is how commerce works in "The Industry" and is part of your compensation, AKA hidden "Benefits" which are not financially beneficial or shared with everyone. Its a "Pass Through" type situation for most as "The Industry" is very small. There are some great people in "The Industry" you must seek them out, you will know. Not meant to offend.
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I spent about 8 years building bikes and motors full time and got VERY burnt out even with some really good money.

working a nice office job now and build bikes now and again as side work

It's been 11 months since I last rode and I am just now getting the drive back to hop on the horse again. Being involved in marketing or something else might be a better approach so you don't get burnt out on it.

glad to finally WANT to ride again and having fun rebuilding the old steeds to their former glory (they got neglected BIG-TIME when I was working on other people's bikes all the time)
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2/24/2017 5:33pm
JWACK wrote:
Motorcycle shops hire all the time.
I've worked motorcycle sales at multi-line dealerships since 2004, well 2 different shops. one in charlotte NC 2004-2012, then 2012-present in San diego CA. BOTH markets are successful to selling powersports, you'll expect to make $40-90K yr
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Race Tech is currently hiring two technicians (one entry level - no experience necessary, just a good attitude and desire to learn). If you're interested, send...
Race Tech is currently hiring two technicians (one entry level - no experience necessary, just a good attitude and desire to learn). If you're interested, send a resume to chris@racetech.com. It's full time and located in Corona, CA.
This makes me wish I lived in California or that the opportunity was in the midwest. I have experience with working on bikes but not through a dealership and not on suspension revalving. Such a cool opportunity for someone there!
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What ever you do , do NOT I repeat DO NOT waste your money and go to MMI !! The worst return on an investment in the motorcycle world. I always say it pays to invest in your education but MMI wont get you ready to do anything except maybe setting up new bikes and you need very little training to do that.

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