Most dominant rider at any given time?

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I was wondeirng - what rider, what series, what year was there no way theyre losing unless their bike breaks?

I would probably say James Stewart 2003 supercross. Not one rider was even close
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Rickyisms 7/29/2020 9:39pm
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Herlings in 2018.
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Rickyisms wrote:
Herlings in 2018.
Gajser is the current world champ. And any other answer than RC is wrong.
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Hard to argue against RC or JS7 going 24-0. No what ifs involved, nobody was able to beat them in a full outdoor season of 24 motos. So, it would come down to arguments over which of those seasons had the best competition and how big the margins of victory were.
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Easy: RC in '02 and '04, Stewart in '04 and '08.

Honorable mention to Herlings in 2018, almost.
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Another vote for Stewart as GOAT for 125/250f. 03-04 he won everything outdoors that he entered, didn't get the perfect season in 03 because of a late start from the shoulder injury.

RC 02-04. Absolutely unstoppable, 2x 24-0, and won 03 even with Windham being the boss that he is.
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Lots of amazing runs, but nothing beats Ricky Carmichael not losing a single national overall from the Washougal '03 National in July of that summer to the Hangtown National in May 2006... He won 27 overalls in a row.

And his career MX winning percentage, 102 wins in 127 starts, .803% winning rate over ten years, will never, ever be matched.

Like Michael Jordan once said about his own dominance, Scoreboard.

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visser62 wrote:
Easy: RC in '02 and '04, Stewart in '04 and '08.

Honorable mention to Herlings in 2018, almost.
Hard to disagree about RC. Herlings does have tougher competition in my opinion. But my vote is for RC.
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Wow, 27 overalls in a row over the course of almost three full years. His competition must have been flummoxed.
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Ken Roczen 2016 MX
RV 2013 MX

But mostly RC, as Davey said.
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crusty_xx wrote:
RC
Why is this even a question?
Bingo. If you think anything else you are wrong.
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Just because RC was an animal doesn't mean his competition was low, everyone forgets that 2011 Reed was almost 30 points up on the Ryan's until the Chadapult. At the 07 MXDN he hadn't raced in a couple months and had full blown chronic fatigue syndrome; the only person who beat him was RV. Kevin, Timmy, Ezra, James, Chad, Mike LaRocco, Davi, Ivan, GL, MA, Sébastien, Ben Townley... these guys are all badass.
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Daytona and a green number 3. Also Washougal lately.

Obviously RC is #1 and had long stretches of dominance.

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RC for sure. And I didn't even think about the 27 in a row. Amazing. Thanks for pointing that out, DC.
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crusty_xx wrote:
RC
Why is this even a question?
Munson'd wrote:
Bingo. If you think anything else you are wrong.
Exactly!
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Gotta be either RC in Mx as per Davey’s post or MC IN Sx from 93 to 96. That has to be a pretty good win percentage too!

Edit, just counted quickly. Might not be perfect because oh my phone but I think 43 wins in 60 starts, 72%? Not bad, especially since it was SX. Long live the King!
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ShipLap wrote:
Ken Roczen 2016 MX
RV 2013 MX

But mostly RC, as Davey said.

Roczen was incredible in the 2016 outdoors. Seemed like he was ready to dominate SX and MX when he got hurt.
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drok577 wrote:
I was wondeirng - what rider, what series, what year was there no way theyre losing unless their bike breaks? I would probably say James Stewart...
I was wondeirng - what rider, what series, what year was there no way theyre losing unless their bike breaks?

I would probably say James Stewart 2003 supercross. Not one rider was even close
JS7 on a 125 was amazing. Just saying that JS7 to a 125 is Jeffery hurlings is to sand. No one can do it better. IMO
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Honorable mention to JMB? Dude seemed unbeatable for a period
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SEE ARE125 7/30/2020 8:36am
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Since it’s “most dominant rider at any given time” and not “most dominant rider ever” I gotta go with Tomac when he put a minute and half on Dungey. I mean it’s Ryan f’in Dungey, who does that??
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
Since it’s “most dominant rider at any given time” and not “most dominant rider ever” I gotta go with Tomac when he put a minute and...
Since it’s “most dominant rider at any given time” and not “most dominant rider ever” I gotta go with Tomac when he put a minute and half on Dungey. I mean it’s Ryan f’in Dungey, who does that??
Agreed! RC is the most dominant ever as DC pointed out earlier, but for 5 motos in 2015 it looked like the rest of the field was in for a LONG summer...any maybe longer.
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Has to be Carmichael during the run DC mentioned. I can still remember TGO movie that year when they showed his lead at Washougal.
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Growing up in Canada, Ross Pederson throughout the 80's was as dominant here as any rider could be - and for quite a long time. I think he had a few AMA national podiums too.
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I think the OP means who was the man at different points in history? Obviously RC is at the top of this mountain.
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SEE ARE125 wrote:
Since it’s “most dominant rider at any given time” and not “most dominant rider ever” I gotta go with Tomac when he put a minute and...
Since it’s “most dominant rider at any given time” and not “most dominant rider ever” I gotta go with Tomac when he put a minute and half on Dungey. I mean it’s Ryan f’in Dungey, who does that??
Hannah did it a few times if my memory serves. His motto was not to just win but to destroy them if he could.
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PastranaWho 7/30/2020 12:39pm
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RC had everybody else shaking in their boots, well maybe not stewart.

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