More "Factory Supported Teams" in '13...?

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Edited Date/Time 8/28/2012 6:57am
Red Bull KTM - Factory
JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported?
BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported?
Langston KTM - KTM Supported?
Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported?

Monster Kawasaki - Factory
Monster Pro-Circuit Kawasaki - Factory Supported
JWR Kawasaki (Monster, here...too?) - Factory Supported

Team Muscle Milk Honda - Factory
Geico Factory Connection Honda - Factory Supported
TwoTwo Motorsports - Factory Supported
Chapparal L&MC Honda - Factory Supported
TLD Lucas Oil Honda

Yoshimura Suzuki - Factory
H & H Suzuki - Factory Supported
Rockstar Suzuki - ASMC supported

JGR Yamaha - Factory Supported
Star-Valli Yamaha - Factory Supported

MotoConcepts/JT Racing - They're their own Factory - Brand TBD

Eleven-10 (These guys oughta find a manufacturer to support them/Chad IS that good!)
Rock River (They help A LOT of riders/I hope they're back in '13!)
NYK27-Motosport (?)
Shea Racing/Violation Goggles
Team Tedder (more than jus' Tedders in '13?)
Rockwell/Fire-Police - KTM(?)
5150 Energy

...and...maybe even a few New Teams?
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8/27/2012 12:44pm
TwoTwo - Factory Supported
kongols
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8/27/2012 12:46pm
What does it mean "factory supported? The best parts? Free bikes? What?
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8/27/2012 1:26pm
kongols wrote:
What does it mean "factory supported? The best parts? Free bikes? What?
I believe the factory supported teams, such as Two-Two, lease their bikes from the factories, and get the factory parts and whatnot. They always talk about how the Chaparal Honda team leases their bikes for Andrew Short from Factory Honda. I assume then that they have "access" to the factory parts and info. This really is a good idea for the Factories too.. when someone on a factory leased bike does well, it looks good for them, and they didn't have the pay out the cash.
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8/27/2012 1:29pm
kongols wrote:
What does it mean "factory supported? The best parts? Free bikes? What?
It use to mean the OEM supplied you with bikes and parts. Now it means you buy bikes and parts from the OEM. Things change.

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8/27/2012 1:50pm
Factory Supported = Leased Factory Equipment?
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8/27/2012 1:54pm
Dsigner wrote:
Factory Supported = Leased Factory Equipment?
^ This is what I've always heard of it being.
MX Culture
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8/27/2012 2:05pm
kongols wrote:
What does it mean "factory supported? The best parts? Free bikes? What?
Holigan wrote:
It use to mean the OEM supplied you with bikes and parts. Now it means you buy bikes and parts from the OEM. Things change.
^^and this is what I KNOW.
buying bikes and sometimes parts, at a discount.
and most times, only a certain amount of bikes, not as many as you want.
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kongols wrote:
What does it mean "factory supported? The best parts? Free bikes? What?
Holigan wrote:
It use to mean the OEM supplied you with bikes and parts. Now it means you buy bikes and parts from the OEM. Things change.
Laughing Telling it like it is! I can appreciate that.
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8/27/2012 5:16pm
kongols wrote:
What does it mean "factory supported? The best parts? Free bikes? What?
Holigan wrote:
It use to mean the OEM supplied you with bikes and parts. Now it means you buy bikes and parts from the OEM. Things change.
Michael I read some underlying tones in that statement, lmao!!
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I have a feeling we are going to be seeing a lot more KTM's in the results next year around 10th-20th and many years after that. Yamaha is disappearing and seems to be throwing in the towel....especially if they lose JGR.
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8/27/2012 7:14pm
The definition of what's what isn't what it used to be.
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Ozzy wrote:
The definition of what's what isn't what it used to be.
Lets go back to them "Cagiva" days, thats when whats what meant something!!
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Factories are leveling the playing field with this new trend in leasing works bikes. Its becoming and going to be new way of buisiness for them
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I made a thread on this leasing end of the factories business model a while back. It seems like the most logical step for an OEM to take in this economy, imo.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Red Bull KTM - Factory JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported? BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported? Langston KTM - KTM Supported? Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported...
Red Bull KTM - Factory
JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported?
BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported?
Langston KTM - KTM Supported?
Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported?

Monster Kawasaki - Factory
Monster Pro-Circuit Kawasaki - Factory Supported
JWR Kawasaki (Monster, here...too?) - Factory Supported

Team Muscle Milk Honda - Factory
Geico Factory Connection Honda - Factory Supported
TwoTwo Motorsports - Factory Supported
Chapparal L&MC Honda - Factory Supported
TLD Lucas Oil Honda

Yoshimura Suzuki - Factory
H & H Suzuki - Factory Supported
Rockstar Suzuki - ASMC supported

JGR Yamaha - Factory Supported
Star-Valli Yamaha - Factory Supported

MotoConcepts/JT Racing - They're their own Factory - Brand TBD

Eleven-10 (These guys oughta find a manufacturer to support them/Chad IS that good!)
Rock River (They help A LOT of riders/I hope they're back in '13!)
NYK27-Motosport (?)
Shea Racing/Violation Goggles
Team Tedder (more than jus' Tedders in '13?)
Rockwell/Fire-Police - KTM(?)
5150 Energy

...and...maybe even a few New Teams?
5150 (NOT supported) Sad
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8/27/2012 10:13pm Edited Date/Time 8/27/2012 10:16pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Red Bull KTM - Factory JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported? BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported? Langston KTM - KTM Supported? Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported...
Red Bull KTM - Factory
JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported?
BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported?
Langston KTM - KTM Supported?
Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported?

Monster Kawasaki - Factory
Monster Pro-Circuit Kawasaki - Factory Supported
JWR Kawasaki (Monster, here...too?) - Factory Supported

Team Muscle Milk Honda - Factory
Geico Factory Connection Honda - Factory Supported
TwoTwo Motorsports - Factory Supported
Chapparal L&MC Honda - Factory Supported
TLD Lucas Oil Honda

Yoshimura Suzuki - Factory
H & H Suzuki - Factory Supported
Rockstar Suzuki - ASMC supported

JGR Yamaha - Factory Supported
Star-Valli Yamaha - Factory Supported

MotoConcepts/JT Racing - They're their own Factory - Brand TBD

Eleven-10 (These guys oughta find a manufacturer to support them/Chad IS that good!)
Rock River (They help A LOT of riders/I hope they're back in '13!)
NYK27-Motosport (?)
Shea Racing/Violation Goggles
Team Tedder (more than jus' Tedders in '13?)
Rockwell/Fire-Police - KTM(?)
5150 Energy

...and...maybe even a few New Teams?
5150 (NOT supported) Sad
5150? They've got a Title Sponsor...that's not a Bad Start.

As to those noting that there are Leased Factory bikes, engines, parts...etc.

JWR built their own bikes from off the shelf goods.

MotoConcepts is doin' Pretty Damn well...ON THEIR OWN.

JGR makes hardware that's BEYOND some of the works stuff...as does this guy in Carona...maybe you've heard of him...Mitch Payton?

Rockstar Suzuki Lites built there bikes and engines without ANY Factory Assistance.

The days of the Factory Team may be fading...and, then...again...maybe they'll be back...who knows?
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TeamGreen wrote:
Red Bull KTM - Factory JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported? BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported? Langston KTM - KTM Supported? Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported...
Red Bull KTM - Factory
JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported?
BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported?
Langston KTM - KTM Supported?
Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported?

Monster Kawasaki - Factory
Monster Pro-Circuit Kawasaki - Factory Supported
JWR Kawasaki (Monster, here...too?) - Factory Supported

Team Muscle Milk Honda - Factory
Geico Factory Connection Honda - Factory Supported
TwoTwo Motorsports - Factory Supported
Chapparal L&MC Honda - Factory Supported
TLD Lucas Oil Honda

Yoshimura Suzuki - Factory
H & H Suzuki - Factory Supported
Rockstar Suzuki - ASMC supported

JGR Yamaha - Factory Supported
Star-Valli Yamaha - Factory Supported

MotoConcepts/JT Racing - They're their own Factory - Brand TBD

Eleven-10 (These guys oughta find a manufacturer to support them/Chad IS that good!)
Rock River (They help A LOT of riders/I hope they're back in '13!)
NYK27-Motosport (?)
Shea Racing/Violation Goggles
Team Tedder (more than jus' Tedders in '13?)
Rockwell/Fire-Police - KTM(?)
5150 Energy

...and...maybe even a few New Teams?
JDR/J-Star - official KTM 250F Team
BTO - KTM supported
Langston Racing - KTM supported
8/28/2012 5:15am
MotoTones wrote:
I have a feeling we are going to be seeing a lot more KTM's in the results next year around 10th-20th and many years after that...
I have a feeling we are going to be seeing a lot more KTM's in the results next year around 10th-20th and many years after that. Yamaha is disappearing and seems to be throwing in the towel....especially if they lose JGR.
Under the tent at Star/Valli there is always a factory guy hooked up to links on Sipes bike. I think you'll see a very good bike in 2014?
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8/28/2012 6:44am
MotoTones wrote:
I have a feeling we are going to be seeing a lot more KTM's in the results next year around 10th-20th and many years after that...
I have a feeling we are going to be seeing a lot more KTM's in the results next year around 10th-20th and many years after that. Yamaha is disappearing and seems to be throwing in the towel....especially if they lose JGR.
Rock River has a pretty good showing of YZ's
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8/28/2012 6:57am
TeamGreen wrote:
Red Bull KTM - Factory JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported? BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported? Langston KTM - KTM Supported? Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported...
Red Bull KTM - Factory
JDR/J-Star KTM - Factory Supported?
BTO(?) KTM - KTM Supported?
Langston KTM - KTM Supported?
Munn Racing KTM - KTM supported?

Monster Kawasaki - Factory
Monster Pro-Circuit Kawasaki - Factory Supported
JWR Kawasaki (Monster, here...too?) - Factory Supported

Team Muscle Milk Honda - Factory
Geico Factory Connection Honda - Factory Supported
TwoTwo Motorsports - Factory Supported
Chapparal L&MC Honda - Factory Supported
TLD Lucas Oil Honda

Yoshimura Suzuki - Factory
H & H Suzuki - Factory Supported
Rockstar Suzuki - ASMC supported

JGR Yamaha - Factory Supported
Star-Valli Yamaha - Factory Supported

MotoConcepts/JT Racing - They're their own Factory - Brand TBD

Eleven-10 (These guys oughta find a manufacturer to support them/Chad IS that good!)
Rock River (They help A LOT of riders/I hope they're back in '13!)
NYK27-Motosport (?)
Shea Racing/Violation Goggles
Team Tedder (more than jus' Tedders in '13?)
Rockwell/Fire-Police - KTM(?)
5150 Energy

...and...maybe even a few New Teams?
Rock River will def be back Smile

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