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10/29/2020 9:00 AM

vdrsnk04 wrote:

I’d say a better goal for Mookie would be to finish the 450 supercross series in the top 10 for the first time. Championship ...more

rdrurypi wrote:

He tied for sixth this year.........

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Is that his first time in his what is it 4 years on 450’s?

Edit: went ahead and grabbed the data. Sorry I like Mookie too but ...more

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or third round and he almost won A1 in 2019. It seems his work ethic is no longer an issue, now if we can only get him to race outdoors.....

As for him being lucky to get a ride, you are delusional. I can make an easy argument that he will be the top guy on the team and likely a 5-7 guy all year.

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10/29/2020 9:11 AM

berm surfer wrote:

Im sorry but McElarth and the Star Yamaha 450 should never be mentioned in the same sentence. #1 he just got let go by that ...more

So by underperforming you mean getting 2nd overall in sx, only 9 points from winning, winning 3 races and only missing the podium once?

Or maybe that he finished 3rd overall in mx behind Ferrandis and Martin?

I'm not a fan of his by any stretch but underperforming isn't the word you're looking for.

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10/29/2020 9:16 AM

super stoked for Mookie!!! Dude has the speed.... can't wait to see him hauling in 21'!!

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10/29/2020 9:18 AM

rdrurypi wrote:

He tied for sixth this year.........

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Is that his first time in his what is it 4 years on 450’s?

Edit: went ahead and grabbed the data. Sorry I like Mookie too but ...more

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

I’m a Mookie fan, but are you saying he will outperform Ferrandis ? blink

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10/29/2020 9:23 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/29/2020 9:33 AM

langhammx wrote:

I’m a Mookie fan, but are you saying he will outperform Ferrandis ? blink

I think Ferrandis will have his share of miscues his first season in 450 SX...as most riders have had in the past coming from stellar performances in the 250's. Mookie has tons of experience, tons of talent, tons of speed...and good genes. Ferrandis will grow into a championship threat in the 450's...but Mookie is already there, for the most part.

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10/29/2020 9:27 AM

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Is that his first time in his what is it 4 years on 450’s?

Edit: went ahead and grabbed the data. Sorry I like Mookie too but ...more

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

langhammx wrote:

I’m a Mookie fan, but are you saying he will outperform Ferrandis ? blink

I know Ferrandis hauls ass, but very few people can just jump on a 450 the first year and resume winning. It seems to take two years in Supercross before they figure it out. I know AC did great, but DF is a small dude on a big bike and I would guess that he is going to auger himself a few times and miss some races as he figures out how to control that beast.

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10/29/2020 9:30 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/29/2020 9:31 AM

berm surfer wrote:

Im sorry but McElarth and the Star Yamaha 450 should never be mentioned in the same sentence. #1 he just got let go by that ...more

Ray_MXS wrote:

So by underperforming you mean getting 2nd overall in sx, only 9 points from winning, winning 3 races and only missing the ...more

What was his avg position in motocross? What was his results per round. You dont have to do the work dude its cool, your right that is still decent season overall, still not what im sure him or Yamaha was wanting though. Didnt they get him out of contract from TLD or how did that work?

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10/29/2020 9:35 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/29/2020 11:21 AM

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

langhammx wrote:

I’m a Mookie fan, but are you saying he will outperform Ferrandis ? blink

rdrurypi wrote:

I know Ferrandis hauls ass, but very few people can just jump on a 450 the first year and resume winning. It seems to take two ...more

Well... I hope everyone can stay healthy and have a good year. I’d bet that Ferrandis salary is double or more compared to Mookie and I’m betting that Yamaha expects Ferrandis to be up front competing for podiums. I’d love to see Mookie ride to his abilities though, let’s hope he can stay healthy and end up with a win or two.

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10/29/2020 10:09 AM

berm surfer wrote:

Im sorry but McElarth and the Star Yamaha 450 should never be mentioned in the same sentence. #1 he just got let go by that ...more

I’m totally a Mookie fan and am pumped for him to have the ride. Honestly, I don’t even like SM or all the shit he talks, but to say he “underperformed greatly” is a stretch. He missed winning the SX title by a few points and finished 3rd in MX.

That matched his best ever SX finish and was by far his best MX overall finish.

People need to rethink their standards as fans in this sport. He got beat by 2 guys riding factory 450s next year and a dude who already has 2 titles outdoors.

That being said, Mookie is the much safer 450 bet for at least SX only for next year, but if Shane lands on an MCR bike, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him beat Mookie either, at least in SX. Dude can rail SX tracks. He’s like 2 bad decisions away from being a two-time champion and then we are having an entirely different discussion.

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10/29/2020 10:38 AM

rdrurypi wrote:

He tied for sixth this year.........

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Is that his first time in his what is it 4 years on 450’s?

Edit: went ahead and grabbed the data. Sorry I like Mookie too but ...more

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible races and doesn’t stay healthy so he ends up being a 10-20 guy.

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10/29/2020 11:03 AM

vdrsnk04 wrote:

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible ...more

7th place in the 2020 overall standings silly

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10/29/2020 11:14 AM

langhammx wrote:

I’m a Mookie fan, but are you saying he will outperform Ferrandis ? blink

rdrurypi wrote:

I know Ferrandis hauls ass, but very few people can just jump on a 450 the first year and resume winning. It seems to take two ...more

langhammx wrote:

Well... I hope everyone can stay healthy and have a good year. I’d bet that Ferrandis salary is double or more compared to ...more

Congratulations on the Mookie scoop yesterday. That little bit of news made my day!

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10/29/2020 11:20 AM

I cant wait for Ferrandis to tell all of us how the 450 suits his riding style better 😂😂

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10/29/2020 11:24 AM

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10/29/2020 11:25 AM

vdrsnk04 wrote:

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible ...more

You must have been very shocked the past three years then.

He tied for 6th in the standings in 2020. In 2019, he was 7th in the standings before he went out with a broken femur. In 2018, he was 7th overall in the series and didn't even race all the races!

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10/29/2020 12:06 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/30/2020 8:24 AM

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

vdrsnk04 wrote:

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible ...more

BroFoSho wrote:

You must have been very shocked the past three years then.

He tied for 6th in the standings in 2020. In 2019, he was 7th in ...more

In 18 he was 11th, 17 he was 15th. I'm a Mookie fan, but your facts are wrong.

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Take it to the limit, one more time!

10/29/2020 12:17 PM

Really happy for Mookie! I hope this can transpire into a multi year deal.

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10/29/2020 1:10 PM

Awesome for Mookie. I'm excited to see Malcolm on the Yamaha and Barcia on the Gas Gas.

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10/29/2020 1:21 PM

Last year was only his 4th full time 450 season since winning the 250 title in 2016. He didn’t race a full season in any of the first three years and in 2019 with the broken femur he missed all but 3 rounds.

So collectively coming into 2020 he had about two seasons worth of races under his belt. He also landed on the best equipment of his 450 career. Put the two together and he had his best year ever. Now he’s on factory equipment for the first time on a 450.

With a move to an even higher level team, higher expectations, and a strong year under his belt I think it’s reasonable to expect him to improve, barring injury.

I think he needs to be 4-6th in points, win his first career 450 race, or get several podiums to meet expectations for next year.

It isn’t unreasonable to expect him to improve for the next 2-3 seasons before hitting a wall. He is still going, just now hitting his physical prime, and has continuity with a trainer.

If he stays healthy, I think he is the best rider on the team next year, with some close battles with DF who will crash out of a few races as all rookies do.

This year is gonna be so sick.

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10/29/2020 1:33 PM

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10/29/2020 1:43 PM

agn5009 wrote:

Maybe Vitards should rethink bashing a team that supports so many riders in the sport we all love. What a cesspool of BS that ...more

Agreed on your first point. I always shake my head when I see people talking shit about Monster on here. I don’t like the drink but I think this sport would look a lot different if it wasn’t for them.

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10/29/2020 2:17 PM

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

vdrsnk04 wrote:

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible ...more

theToothPerry wrote:

7th place in the 2020 overall standings silly

Guess the shorter series proved easier to stay healthy 🤷‍♂️

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2015 Husqvarna FE501s
2020 KTM 250xc
2019 Yamaha YZ250F

10/29/2020 2:18 PM

vdrsnk04 wrote:

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible ...more

theToothPerry wrote:

7th place in the 2020 overall standings silly

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Guess the shorter series proved easier to stay healthy

The one where they did all 17 rounds as usual?

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10/29/2020 2:18 PM

rdrurypi wrote:

Have you been in a coma for the last two years? His 30th place in 2019 was because if broke his femur in either the second or ...more

vdrsnk04 wrote:

If he finishes in the championship in 5-7 place I’ll be very shocked. Historically he has some good races and also terrible ...more

BroFoSho wrote:

You must have been very shocked the past three years then.

He tied for 6th in the standings in 2020. In 2019, he was 7th in ...more

Exactly what “if he can stay healthy” Means...

And check your stats where he finished at in 2018...

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2015 Husqvarna FE501s
2020 KTM 250xc
2019 Yamaha YZ250F

10/29/2020 2:25 PM

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10/29/2020 2:27 PM

theToothPerry wrote:

7th place in the 2020 overall standings silly

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Guess the shorter series proved easier to stay healthy

yz133rider wrote:

The one where they did all 17 rounds as usual?

Yep was def a season with an asterisk. Also him getting 7th in 2020 goes back to my post a page ago that said he’s had one 450 season with a top 10 finish in 4 seasons. So I don’t see why people say he’s a Champ contender or why he deserves a top factory ride. His average 450 career finish is 16th place....

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2015 Husqvarna FE501s
2020 KTM 250xc
2019 Yamaha YZ250F

10/29/2020 2:33 PM

berm surfer wrote:

Im sorry but McElarth and the Star Yamaha 450 should never be mentioned in the same sentence. #1 he just got let go by that ...more

chasetwo79 wrote:

I’m totally a Mookie fan and am pumped for him to have the ride. Honestly, I don’t even like SM or all the shit he talks, but ...more

Completely agree.

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2015 Husqvarna FE501s
2020 KTM 250xc
2019 Yamaha YZ250F

10/29/2020 3:14 PM

Patrick_Potato wrote:

I guess the $$ was enough to let go of Se7en?

He's still in Seven

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10/29/2020 4:30 PM
Edited Date/Time: 10/29/2020 4:31 PM

chasetwo79 wrote:

Last year was only his 4th full time 450 season since winning the 250 title in 2016. He didn’t race a full season in any of ...more

This isn't his first time on a factory 450. He rode for JGR.

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10/29/2020 5:05 PM

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Yep was def a season with an asterisk. Also him getting 7th in 2020 goes back to my post a page ago that said he’s had one 450 ...more

Stop being a prick.

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