Mental bike debate..

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Edited Date/Time 8/11/2018 6:49am
Splurge and buy new and leave bone stock, kx450 or crf450..

Orrrrr, spend nearly half on a low hour loaded up 17crf?

Will the 19s be that far ahead of the 17 crf?
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Meister 8/9/2018 6:02pm
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Not this time.. keep for 5 years..

Has anyone ridden each that I've mentioned?
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yz133rider 8/9/2018 9:13pm
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Honestly after hearing enough people at local tracks "warming" their bikes up with the rev limiter immediately upon start up and listening to enough people who change the oil every 15 hrs i think im sticking to new from now on
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nascarnate326 8/10/2018 12:53am
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I just got a used but very well taken care of 2017 CRF450R and love it. Suspension setup for me with gold valves and a few other mods. I couldn’t imagine a $10,000 bike and not being able to mod it.


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tcallahan707 8/10/2018 3:30am
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The 17 is sick. I'm sure the 19 is a tad better but not 5k better.
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kb228 8/10/2018 3:45am
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My vote goes to a new bike instead of someone elses modded out bike. Maybe it was done right maybe it wasnt. Who knows.
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mmain62 8/10/2018 5:03am
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I just bought a 13hr 2017 Kaw450 with no mods but the spring conversion and it looks and smells brand new still. You should look for a clean stock used bike or a left over new one. Ill never buy a modded bike unless I know an old man with a lot of money had it. Like the one guy said as soon as people start their bikes at the track they bounce them off the revvy. It hard to trust people anymore. Good luck
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GeorgiePorgie 8/10/2018 5:35am
8/10/2018 5:35am Edited Date/Time 8/10/2018 5:36am
If you’re gonna keep it for 5 years better off buyin new. You won’t keep it for 5 months!!!!
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Premix 8/10/2018 7:27am
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Buying new is a poor financial decision especially a new dirt bike that doesn't have a warranty anyways. The rate at which they depreciate is astronomical these days. Considering there's 17 CRF's that are for sale for less than 5k, spending 9k for a new one that will be outdated by a new model era in another year and a half is a horrible decision.

Find a good used one and pay cash.

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Kx125rider 8/10/2018 8:17am
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I vote used, In my experience by seeing the bike in person and meeting the owner you can usually tell if the bike was taken care of or if theyre someone who doesn’t care and does things half ass
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TJMX947 8/10/2018 8:39am
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Buy a 2018 KX450F or RMZ450 for $6500 OTD. There is a place in New Philadelphia Ohio that makes awesome deals on new bikes, I bought a left over CRF450R from them in 2014 for 7k OTD.

Used isn't always bad, but if you can get a new leftover bike for $1000 more than a used bike I would do it in a heart beat. $1000 is the worth the mental relief when the valves start ticking on that "mod" 450. Who the hell needs a Mod 450 anyways?
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Magic Man 8/10/2018 8:50am
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Meister wrote:
Splurge and buy new and leave bone stock, kx450 or crf450.. Orrrrr, spend nearly half on a low hour loaded up 17crf? Will the 19s be...
Splurge and buy new and leave bone stock, kx450 or crf450..

Orrrrr, spend nearly half on a low hour loaded up 17crf?

Will the 19s be that far ahead of the 17 crf?
I have a 2018 CRF 450 with Ti Procircuit exhaust, Faster USA wheels, Ride Engineering link and clutch cable bracket and Recluse Torq Drive manual clutch I'd sell for $7800. Has 40 hours, oil changed every 5-8 hours, vet ridden. I broke my neck on my mountain bike and won't be riding for about 6 months so I figured I'd sell it so it's not just sitting around.
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Meister 8/10/2018 11:08am
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The 17 I'm referring to has 17 hours on it. No internal motor mods. Wheels, anodized suspension, to/cf pipe, some anodized bling, hinson cover. Bike was Moto only.

I've narrowed it to these options. I'm not looking for older gen kaws and have kinda written off the rmz due to the necessary mods I feel would need done.
Oh, and if I but a 17, it'll evening's get A kit stuff.. if I buy new, that definitely won't happen. Just a spring n valve if new..
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mark_swart 8/10/2018 12:49pm
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Sounds like the new frame has a little better feel -- I have to wonder if you might be able to switch out some parts on the older one and get the same effect (did they use different motor mounts that could be substituted?)

I have a hard time believing that the newer version of the same platform is worth the extra $.

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resetjet 8/10/2018 6:33pm
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Meister wrote:
Splurge and buy new and leave bone stock, kx450 or crf450.. Orrrrr, spend nearly half on a low hour loaded up 17crf? Will the 19s be...
Splurge and buy new and leave bone stock, kx450 or crf450..

Orrrrr, spend nearly half on a low hour loaded up 17crf?

Will the 19s be that far ahead of the 17 crf?
Are you that fast where it matters???? Better off spending money on some lessons for most of us.
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JB 19 8/10/2018 7:35pm
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Where are you going to ride? The Honda turns like it's on a slot car track, but is twitchy in the rough....I haven't rode the Kawasaki, but I'm assuming it's a lot more stable in the rough. Most places, the Honda....somewhere like Red Bud when it's rough, the Kaw.

Buy the 17' Honda if you don't care about electric start.
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Meister 8/10/2018 8:14pm
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I had electric start on my 16 Ktm. It's not any sort of deal breaker. Had a dead battery once. A kicker won't go dead at least.

I plan to make another run at Loretta's in +30 on whatever I buy.

Reset, I'm way past the point in life where I need to pay for lessons. While they certainly could help me, I'm not trying to go pro at 33 with a 3 year old and a wife. More looking to make a fun family vacation for a week in Tennessee.
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JB 19 8/11/2018 4:14am
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Meister wrote:
I had electric start on my 16 Ktm. It's not any sort of deal breaker. Had a dead battery once. A kicker won't go dead at...
I had electric start on my 16 Ktm. It's not any sort of deal breaker. Had a dead battery once. A kicker won't go dead at least.

I plan to make another run at Loretta's in +30 on whatever I buy.

Reset, I'm way past the point in life where I need to pay for lessons. While they certainly could help me, I'm not trying to go pro at 33 with a 3 year old and a wife. More looking to make a fun family vacation for a week in Tennessee.
It's always seemed like a Kawasaki chassis is more suited to Loretta's. My 18' Honda gets a little busy at Briarcliff and that's with the forks all the way down in the clamps.
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jsmi33966 8/11/2018 6:10am
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The 17 Honda with a single pipe loses like 5 lbs and gains like 3hp. That would be a good deal if you don't like air forks. I love my KX but I payed 8500 otd.
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Meister 8/11/2018 6:49am
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Jb, Ive kinda noticed the kx thing at Loretta's too but I've never owned a green bike. I'm getting the impression that the 19 chassis is similar to the honda though.

I'm scared of air, that's part of why my options are what they are. For the
difference in new vs the used I'm considering, I could probably pick up A kit forks. That's why if I buy new, I'll be using stock suspension.. if I but used, that makes kit stuff much more of a possibility.
Ghostrider145 8/11/2018 6:51am
8/11/2018 6:51am
I’m the guy that would buy used or a leftover model on the showroom. Like previously stated when you meet the owner you will know what type of guy he is. I’m sure I come off as OCD to most. Good luck!

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Meister 8/11/2018 7:05am
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I've spoke with the owner quite a bit of. I trust that it's been very well maintained.

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