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I love Matthes but I can't help but noticing some stuff he is saying lately.
On his review shows and the Pulp show they have been saying things like
"We need to slow the bikes down" Matthes. Also mentioned ECM's or something to do it.
I agree with Matthes, NASCAR did it at the super speedways because it was getting out of control.
Guess what. Bring BACK 250/125cc the two stroke (Possibly make it 300/150) . They're slower, funner, cheaper, simpler, funner, sound better, funner, smell better, and they are funner!
Don't say oh well nobody makes them crap. All the AMA has to do is announce that in 2015 the rules will change so it will be 400/200cc four stroke and 300/150cc two stroke and in 2016 it'll be 350/175cc four stroke and 300/150 two stoke and let capitalism sort it out.
And the tracks need more dirt, bigger jumps, for slower lap times.
I agree here too. They need more dirt. But I think the four strokes have brought about the different track designs ie lower jumps that send bikes further and faster rather than up. That will change when the speeds come down.
Bring BACK the smoker for better racing!
On his review shows and the Pulp show they have been saying things like
"We need to slow the bikes down" Matthes. Also mentioned ECM's or something to do it.
I agree with Matthes, NASCAR did it at the super speedways because it was getting out of control.
Guess what. Bring BACK 250/125cc the two stroke (Possibly make it 300/150) . They're slower, funner, cheaper, simpler, funner, sound better, funner, smell better, and they are funner!
Don't say oh well nobody makes them crap. All the AMA has to do is announce that in 2015 the rules will change so it will be 400/200cc four stroke and 300/150cc two stroke and in 2016 it'll be 350/175cc four stroke and 300/150 two stoke and let capitalism sort it out.
And the tracks need more dirt, bigger jumps, for slower lap times.
I agree here too. They need more dirt. But I think the four strokes have brought about the different track designs ie lower jumps that send bikes further and faster rather than up. That will change when the speeds come down.
Bring BACK the smoker for better racing!
So how is that working out now?
Keep up the good work though!
site one example...please I dare you to give me one example of him BASHING two strokes...
I do agree with what he was saying about the tracks, Ping, Weege, JT$ and Stewart all pretty much said the same thing.
I wonder how long it will take to get some change to the tracks and see some variety.
I say get rid of Dirt Wurx and bring in Dream Traxx. They make pure magic and I know they would do a good job.
Not sure if they have long contracts or what but do two year contracts that way you have the option to try other track builders if they dont pan out.
The Shop
fast forward to today where the "rookies" in the little bike/250F class have more horsepower at the rear wheel than the old air cooled 465 ping'er... is it a wonder why so many young riders are getting hurt?? would it actually "hurt" the racing if the "little" class only had 25-30 hp at the wheel?
I contend that the quality of racing isn't dependent on rear wheel horsepower, but it certainly affects the number of injuries... and... if track speeds were 5 mph slower the average viewer would probably not even notice the difference...
4 Strokes Go!!!!!!!!!
More CC's and HP doesnt mean faster.
where did you come up with that?
what's fair about 450cc versus 250cc? or 250cc versus 125cc?
it is worth thinking about, unfortunately, the powers that be will never let the two-strokes back into the game. the mfr's are making too much money off all the sheeple.
Regardless... They've gotta do something... Having everyone be really close in laptimes is a by product of the current batch of riders, not the bikes or tracks... There are 7-9 guys who are very close in skill level and would be the same on a speedway track.
We need to give them the opportunities to race and pass... Not wait each other out in a single file
Pit Row
Also if you think that the big 4 would shell out money for new tooling, r&d, ect just because the AMA said xyz will happen, you are a crack baby. Most people that ride are not even members of the AMA. In the big picture AMA makes up a fraction of units ridden.
If they want to slow down the tracks, stop grooming the crap out of them. Let 'em get chewed up, blue grooved, and do more natural terrain. Indoors, go back to more of the early 80's track designs.
it doesn't affect me directly anyway, just trying to bench-race a little.
i sold my pig and am riding my 12 year old 250 again. i don't remember the last time i had this much fun on a bike.
that said, my next new bike will not be a japanese brand.
15,000$ to buy the winning bike using the claiming rule would slow down the bikes.
I like the idea of a 300cc 150cc 2 stroke and bringing the 4 strokes down to 350 and
175cc. With the claiming rule, the privateer should have a chance to compete without selling the farm.
I really doubt you'll ever see a company other than Dirt Wurx doing the tracks.
Yes, having the "rookie" class on 250s makes it a little rough for them, but I also think it's why the elite guys who do move up out of that class are ready to compete with the established 450 riders from the get-go. Remember how long it took RC to get acclimated to the bigger class?
It might not be the easiest thing to do, but I do think that some really smart folks should be able to figure out a formula that makes a big-bore four-strokes compatible with big-bore two-strokes, whether it's some combo of cc, fuel, or weight. In different motorsports, there's a long history of dissimilar engines being run together. NHRA's Top Alcohol class would be one example.
From the NHRA site...
Top Alcohol Dragsters may look like Top Fuelers, but they have significant differences. Whereas Top Fuelers use supercharged, nitro-burning engines, Top Alcohol Dragsters may use a supercharged methanol-burning engine or an injected nitromethane combination. The injected nitro cars do not use a transmission, and the supercharged cars have three forward speeds. Weights vary according to combination but are generally between 1,975 and 2,050 pounds. Like Top Fuelers, Top Alcohol Dragsters are restricted to a maximum wheelbase of 300 inches. A typical run is in the 5.2s at more than 270 mph.
Timing is key. No, it shouldn't be changed in the middle of a season. Yes, it should be done in time for everyone to pick and choose which bike(s) they want to ride in the future, and to allow for production planning. I'd guess that most manufacturers are already well done with their '14 bikes, and are already planning on '15 and '16.
I think the manufacturers and sanctioning bodies should work together on this, in the interest of making things better and safer for the riders. But I also think the AMA needs to take the lead, and steward this through.
The engine size rules for amateur and pro classes should be the same, across the board.
Now 250T vs 250f you would def win on the two stroke.
But not every two stroke is faster then every four stroke.
I dont care about what the big companies want or what they are trying to make money on. I am speaking about what the riders like. Ask any of them, they like the four stroke better for obvious reasons.
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