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Any fan that sat watching one or two guys dominate the sport for years (likely buying the products they endorse), take pretty much all the effing money, support and media attention, and ride off into the sunset with their millions--- would be interested to know if someone cheated.
The industry arrogance kills me.
Some of the gross assuming that goes on in here, or All of the implied...
Is hilarious.
The Shop
Roger DeCoster
Joel Robert
Danny LaPorte
Bob Hannah
Etc., etc., etc. ...
Some of you must have had your "glass half-full" your entire life. Reality is a dark tale of jealousy and anger in your world. Not in mine.
I'm quite aware that there was a time when this crap rubbed off on our sport. I'm also aware of where we're at now.
I just dont trust docs. If they are getting paid, they will prescribe damn near anything for any reason!
I know people who really get altitude sickness right at around 10K from sea level. It hits, and they can't see straight, walk around like they are blind with their hands out, are disoriented, usually get a headache, possibly puking, and really get screwed up till they get a little lower. And shortly after are fine. Even a 1,000 lower, they are good. In 2 days, it takes 12,000 to do the same thing. A few days more, A OK.
Lakewood is not all that much different than the altitude Anderson grew up.
Do you get more tired around 6500 feet? Sure. But altitude sickness?
Mammoth motocross track is right at about 7800 to compare.
Being a pro Supercross rider isn't for me, because I am not talented, dedicated, tough, brave or skilled enough. You need more than something that comes in a bottle, we all get it. It's not about reducing anybody's accomplishments or throwing stones -- to me it's about the guys who weren't taking substances and whether they were playing on a level playing field.
Would I start speculate about current racers like some have done here? No I wouldn't, because that is unfair and that is probably why you are the one sounding upset. I'd be pissed if I was Osborne too.
But still no comment on the industry icon that was involved in the Armstrong doping scandal at the highest levels. In fact there was not a peep about that in our industry.
TeamGreen is being his typically self and defending the industry and taking every comment in this tread to be directed at him.
Here is the point Manny, 2 well connected guys have said riders admitted use to them. Period. End of story. How is this not a big deal? Current riders aside, shouldn’t we be looking into this? Does a fair playing field not matter at all? Just because there wasn’t testing back then or they weren’t caught in the act doesn’t make it right.
To me that’s the issue here. Not the Jeff Alessi nonsense.... the actual admittals from riders to industry regulars.
Thats my opinion, knowing what I know being with people in altitude and seeing people get it.
Being a bit more winded, a bit more wore out, a slight headache, sure, but that is not altitude sickness.
For example, your car has 30% less horsepower at 10,000 feet, naturally aspirated.
There is nothing wrong with your car. But it feels like you pulled a couple spark plugs.
Does that warrant putting a blower or turbo on it to make it even again? What about everyone else? Can they put one on also?
And Chinese kits, hell you have no idea what the true dosages are. Thats why some guys using say 4 IUs per day of Pharm grade kits will use 10-20 IUs of Chinese.
If he didn't, his performance sure wasn't what it was before he got caught.
Makes me wonder how much it does enhance an athlete.......
It's not like I am pointing out a secret. It was an international news story. It definitely got me thinking, since he also had access to the top riders in motocross. I'd post a link but my connection sucks right now at Starbucks.
http://racerxonline.com/2008/03/12/between-the-motos-jeff-spencer
Pit Row
Edit: Didn’t see MxKings response.
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