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4/30/2017 9:01am
Everyone knows that Marvin let Ryan by for the win. He did it because that is what teammates do, there was no other option. Every point matters and with Marvin having already been mathematically eliminated, it was a no-brainer.
Some people question why Marvin passed Dungey to begin with, if he was going to roll over like he did on the last lap. It's pretty simple: The only way Marvin could expect to collect the win bonus would be for him to be ahead of Ryan and in an obvious position to beat him. If Musquin had laid back in second it's doubtful that KTM would have paid him the win bonus. "Come on, Pit, I could have passed him and won!" probably would have fallen on deaf ears. The other reason that Marvin passed him is that Marvin was clearly comfortable racing at a faster pace than Dungey and it's not that easy to make yourself go slower...it messes with your timing and can cause crashes.
Bottom line is that Tomac unraveled like a cheap suit, ala Bradshaw in 1992. Dungey deserves the title, should he win it next week...and Musquin deserves the win bonus for tonight.
Some people question why Marvin passed Dungey to begin with, if he was going to roll over like he did on the last lap. It's pretty simple: The only way Marvin could expect to collect the win bonus would be for him to be ahead of Ryan and in an obvious position to beat him. If Musquin had laid back in second it's doubtful that KTM would have paid him the win bonus. "Come on, Pit, I could have passed him and won!" probably would have fallen on deaf ears. The other reason that Marvin passed him is that Marvin was clearly comfortable racing at a faster pace than Dungey and it's not that easy to make yourself go slower...it messes with your timing and can cause crashes.
Bottom line is that Tomac unraveled like a cheap suit, ala Bradshaw in 1992. Dungey deserves the title, should he win it next week...and Musquin deserves the win bonus for tonight.
I also wonder if Marvin also wanted to play the rabbit (as I posted earlier) and actually help Dunge by pulling him along as well as show him a few lines, thereby making Dunge faster for a bit before succeeding the lead?
The Shop
The sports legitimacy and integrity both decreased a little regarding results/championships(? TBD). And just because you can give examples of other motorsports doing the exact same thing does not negate my previous sentence in the least.
And to top it off, the OP now explains to us how Marvin will use "blackmail" for "win" bonus money! And most are fine with that.
Look I get it, I do. And truly my opinion doesn't make one bit of difference to any of the parties involved. I'm just an almost retired spectator(stopped riding in 2012) stating an opinion for a sport I've loved since... '86.
I find it sad and will just look at the sport a little less endearing than I use to.
Who pays it is what they can negotiate.
I can see Marvin being on Dungeys payroll. Its worth it. Even if Dungey paid out of pocket.
Say Marvin would have won 100K in race win bonuses etc total all inclusive.
Cost 200K.
Championship bonus pay to Dungey 1mm pkus another 1mm in bonuses from sponsors.
2 Mm in bonuses.
Cost, 200K
Sounds like the cost of doing business. Its a bargain. Even if the rider was cutting the check.
If you're out of contention anyway, you can order a lot of pizzas and take a nice nap with 400K of extra ching.
This might hit the dumbgeon...
Yeah, Bauer nailed it perfectly.
Bauer nailed it. And if we were all intellectually honest, odds are that the substantial majority on here would do the exact same thing for a friend and teammate. The rest probably truly are reclusive keyboard warriors.
P.S. Money isn't everything, I suspect the race bonus didn't factor into Marvin's decision.
Pit Row
Marvin was riding off the main line and leaving the door open for a whole lap trying to give Dungey a chance to make it look better before he was forced to fake a mistake.
If every point matters, what about Grant not tipping over to let Eli by?
Either way, I think we should see if the championship gets decided by less than three points before we go off the deep end.
But even if it was team tactics, it's definitely a bit more complicated on the personal side than Let Broc Bye!
I was pulling for Eli, but it's hard to root against Dungey andMarvin. Two of the nicest guys in the sport.
Oh, and I'd guess Marvin's win bonus is secure.... and then some.
Either way, they did what they needed to do, Eli threw it away, and with so many KTM's/Husky's in the top 10, I don't see Eli coming out with this title unless something catastrophic happens to Ryan in Vegas.
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