Market Research

just buy a ktm

I mean its not that hard, I change mine in between races not motos I dont know anyone who does that but hey, you do you. Also their is not one popular bike everyone uses different makes and models.

what about the market research that determines whether anyone even wants what you are trying to sell? seems like that would be the first thing to do, if you haven't already.

Unless your product will wash and re-oil the filter for me, what exactly are we talking about here? saving 30 seconds taking it off or putting it on? If thats the only benefit, I don't see the appeal. I have an extra minute to deal with a filter, and so do most people. I am aware that there are "problem childs" out there, and maybe those specific owners might be more interested.

Incase you are unaware, theres a company out there whos product does not only what yours promises to do, but offers a host of other benefits as well. Their products are very high quality, and very well recieved, and they have fitments for litterally every mainstream dirtbike out there.

To be honest, you seem like an "outsider", without any real intimate knowledge of this industry. Had you been testing your designs on the race track or at popular riding areas, and getting stuck into the scene, you wouldn't be here asking such an elementary question. You'd already know the answer. Paid your dues so to speak.

Plenty of great names and companies have been built on the folley of one part or one machine. But, at the top of the list in the hierchy of the motocross aftermarket are men of humble beginnings and an undeniable passion for the sport. Not idea men with marketing budgets and investors.

Check out the air filter on a ttr125 it rocks.
Oem comes in a box with bolt, cage and filter for $20 it's square.
Open the side of the air box and slide the cage into a groove and that's it. No putting the filter on the cage, no trying to put the bolt in just slide the whole thing out.

And if you are going to select limited models look at models like the yz125 and yz250. 2 bikes with many years models and have the same air filter. I'm sure other bikes share the same part over multiple models and years.

SHIT I GAVE UP ON AIR FILTERS YEARS AGO

Credit to you for trying to innovate.

But this isn't the place to ask

Product doesn't sound like it's solving a problem I have, installing em is the easy part! I's the cleaning and oiling that effin sucks.

Takes constant research as Sales numbers per brand change yearly.

Air filter ? I thought that was a sponge for washing the bike.

Zesiger 112 wrote:

Check out the air filter on a ttr125 it rocks.
Oem comes in a box with bolt, cage and filter for $20 it's square.
Open the ...more

Zesiger 112 wrote:

Check out the air filter on a ttr125 it rocks.
Oem comes in a box with bolt, cage and filter for $20 it's square.
Open the side of the air box and slide the cage into a groove and that's it. No putting the filter on the cage, no trying to put the bolt in just slide the whole thing out.

And if you are going to select limited models look at models like the yz125 and yz250. 2 bikes with many years models and have the same air filter. I'm sure other bikes share the same part over multiple models and years.

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That's a good suggestion, to go with YZ125/250 filters first. Plus, they interchange with the YZ-F filters up to 2009, as well as 08-17 RM-Z 450 and some older model KX 2 strokes.

Changing the air filter isn't hard. Wiping the debris out of the air box itself is the task. And of course cleaning the air boot with neurotic precision takes real time. How a person can eliminate that? I don't know. But I'm not the one doing market research.

P.s. My twin air's work perfect.

When it gets dirty just turn it inside out....kinda like your underwear

Have 5 to 10 filters, clean and oil them all at once with gloves on. Have extra gloves and sandwich bags for when you switch them out. When they are all dirty again, clean them all at once!

I don't mind changing filters. Cleaning them is another story.

I think everyone is in agreement that the changing the air filters isn't the issue. Cleaning an air filter is the problem. You need solvents, buckets, warm water & soap and time to let them dry.

Those of us who only have one or two air filters spend a lot of time doing this.

Here is a game changer:

Create a disposable filter that fits correctly, keeps the dirt out, and only costs $2. I will spend $50 - $100 a year to not have to clean/oil another air filter ever.

Id like a filter that snaps in and has a quick release button. Hands are almsot too big for most bikes

Acidreamer wrote:

Id like a filter that snaps in and has a quick release button. Hands are almsot too big for most bikes

Acidreamer wrote:

Id like a filter that snaps in and has a quick release button. Hands are almsot too big for most bikes

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As far as bikes made within the last 3-5 years? KTM / Husky, Yamaha & Honda are the most common around me. overall the most common bike I see are Kawasakis from within the last 10 years. But this will change yearly. In about a year or twos time I am expecting to see more Yamaha's flooding the resale market along with the always popular KTM's.

But I still think its to hard to say what bikes are most popular. The new model sales numbers are constantly changing, then add in the resale market and your numbers are going to be just slightly askew to say the least

Katoomey wrote:

what about the market research that determines whether anyone even wants what you are trying to sell? seems like that would be ...more

Katoomey wrote:

what about the market research that determines whether anyone even wants what you are trying to sell? seems like that would be the first thing to do, if you haven't already.

Unless your product will wash and re-oil the filter for me, what exactly are we talking about here? saving 30 seconds taking it off or putting it on? If thats the only benefit, I don't see the appeal. I have an extra minute to deal with a filter, and so do most people. I am aware that there are "problem childs" out there, and maybe those specific owners might be more interested.

Incase you are unaware, theres a company out there whos product does not only what yours promises to do, but offers a host of other benefits as well. Their products are very high quality, and very well recieved, and they have fitments for litterally every mainstream dirtbike out there.

To be honest, you seem like an "outsider", without any real intimate knowledge of this industry. Had you been testing your designs on the race track or at popular riding areas, and getting stuck into the scene, you wouldn't be here asking such an elementary question. You'd already know the answer. Paid your dues so to speak.

Plenty of great names and companies have been built on the folley of one part or one machine. But, at the top of the list in the hierchy of the motocross aftermarket are men of humble beginnings and an undeniable passion for the sport. Not idea men with marketing budgets and investors.

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Great post. Told someone what they didn't want to hear on Vital and used reason and logic. Refreshing.

Almost every week MXA online writes results and has a bunch of photos of the weekly REM races at Glen Helen. It also shows the breakdown of percentage of bikes raced each weekend.

Not too pile on too much, but Im a believer that electric bikes are the future. And that means no more air filters to worry about. Id save your money, time, and effort, and invest it elsewhere.

^^^That. Put together e-conversion kits so that when your bike grenades, you sell off whatever good parts are left and then install the new e-kit.