Magura clutch went out

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1/19/2019 9:11am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2020 1:57pm
Has anyone had any issues with the Magura clutch on their husky’s going out? Bike is a 2018.5 Rockstar edition and the clutch just went out. Tried bleeding it and it will just lose pressure holding the clutch. Bike only has 12 hours on it
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It has been told several times about the clutch slave cylinder going out. Several options are out there, one is to use a Brembo slave rebuild kit, another is an entire Brembo setup. There is a couple of aftermarket slave cylinders, Rekluse and Oberion (spelling not sure). My Rockstar 450 has 21.5 hours on it now and I was thinking about rebuilding the slave just to be sure.
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1/19/2019 9:28am
Contact your dealer also. The odds of getting it warrantied are very good.
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mx317 wrote:
It has been told several times about the clutch slave cylinder going out. Several options are out there, one is to use a Brembo slave rebuild...
It has been told several times about the clutch slave cylinder going out. Several options are out there, one is to use a Brembo slave rebuild kit, another is an entire Brembo setup. There is a couple of aftermarket slave cylinders, Rekluse and Oberion (spelling not sure). My Rockstar 450 has 21.5 hours on it now and I was thinking about rebuilding the slave just to be sure.
mx317 is correct- rebuild it with Brembo stuff. Specs are the same, but Brembo quality is better. There's a seal in the slave cylinder that gets torn, causing loss of pressure. Easy fix...
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Dont replace with magura because they only last 20 hours. It's been happening since 2016. Even happened to dean wilson.

Oberon are a good replacement, I think rekluse are doing one also.

Everyone I've met with a 450 husky the last 3 years has had it happen
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Anyone know if this is affecting the TC250’s as well? Looking at picking up a 19 in the near future and I just figure take care of it before it becomes a problem if necessary.
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Guess the best bet is to just replace with a KTM unit. My KTM has 128 hours on it and I’ve never touched the Slave cylinder on it.
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1/19/2019 12:36pm
As said, Brembo components is the key word.
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They don’t even have the replacement Magura unit available. I’m going to call Husqvarna and see if they will warranty it with the Brembo unit. Doesn’t hurt to try
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Please let me know If anyone has a Magura clutch master cylinder for 2017 FC250 that they would like to sell. Mine has some damage to the clutch cylinder bore.
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Anyone know if this is affecting the TC250’s as well? Looking at picking up a 19 in the near future and I just figure take care...
Anyone know if this is affecting the TC250’s as well? Looking at picking up a 19 in the near future and I just figure take care of it before it becomes a problem if necessary.
All husky’s with Magyar slave affected
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The Magura in my new KTM 690 went out at the 400 mile mark, the second day I had it... supposed to be a class action coming on it.... they keep installing the same POS year after year.....
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12/24/2020 10:54am Edited Date/Time 12/24/2020 11:00am
Highsider wrote:
As said, Brembo components is the key word.
Isn't it usually the o-ring/seal in the slave that needs repalcing? (With Brembo part)

Note: It looks like there's an "Update Kit" that replaces the "Slave-Cylinder Piston O-Ring" with a different part.
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Here’s a picture of the part w/ Part Number on it...(Thanks to Fator’s in Redding/Cory Fator)


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If only you'd read Motocross Action...
You truly should have known.
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Funny thing is I had for years a 01 400 EXC with tons of hours on it, never had an issue with the Magura clutch. Oh well...
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Anyone know if this is affecting the TC250’s as well? Looking at picking up a 19 in the near future and I just figure take care...
Anyone know if this is affecting the TC250’s as well? Looking at picking up a 19 in the near future and I just figure take care of it before it becomes a problem if necessary.
My 18 TC250 has 90 hours on it with absolutely zero clutch related failures
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Take slave cylinder off. Pull clutch leaver in while pulling out on the slave cylinder puck , it will pop out. Take off torn seal , go to harbor freight and buy the viton o ring kit since you should have it in your shop already. Now select the correct size from box , install on puck , push puck back in slave cylinder , reinstall on the bike and bleed it bam done. If you have the oring kit it might take you 20 minutes and you good to go for countless hours.
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Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently on the 4 strokes, but have yet to see one fail on the two strokes. Same part #, so no idea why it seems to work out that way. Heat maybe? 60hrs on my Magura slave on my TX300 and no problems. I have a new brembo slave in my parts box just in case though.
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12/27/2020 10:20am
Highsider wrote:
As said, Brembo components is the key word.
TeamGreen wrote:
Isn't it usually the o-ring/seal in the slave that needs repalcing? (With Brembo part) Note: It looks like there's an "Update Kit" that replaces the "Slave-Cylinder...
Isn't it usually the o-ring/seal in the slave that needs repalcing? (With Brembo part)

Note: It looks like there's an "Update Kit" that replaces the "Slave-Cylinder Piston O-Ring" with a different part.
You can buy an o ring kit with many different sizes. Match it up and go. I do this with my paint ball guns.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Here’s a picture of the part w/ Part Number on it...(Thanks to Fator’s in Redding/Cory Fator)[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/24/467732/s1200_9007A6E8_2A8E_4C20_9122_8F7AC0E86515.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/24/467731/s1200_1C8A5156_CE8E_4D8B_9704_F5D7DA358C6C.jpg[/img]
Here’s a picture of the part w/ Part Number on it...(Thanks to Fator’s in Redding/Cory Fator)



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BikePilot wrote:
Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently...
Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently on the 4 strokes, but have yet to see one fail on the two strokes. Same part #, so no idea why it seems to work out that way. Heat maybe? 60hrs on my Magura slave on my TX300 and no problems. I have a new brembo slave in my parts box just in case though.
Have you ever tried bolting up a Brembo to a bike that had a Magura? How did you overcome the different clutch line fittings?
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12/27/2020 11:11am Edited Date/Time 12/27/2020 11:11am
Just replace the piston/seal with a KTM piece. Takes about 15 minutes and has been good for 60 hours for me.
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BikePilot wrote:
Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently...
Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently on the 4 strokes, but have yet to see one fail on the two strokes. Same part #, so no idea why it seems to work out that way. Heat maybe? 60hrs on my Magura slave on my TX300 and no problems. I have a new brembo slave in my parts box just in case though.
Broseph wrote:
Have you ever tried bolting up a Brembo to a bike that had a Magura? How did you overcome the different clutch line fittings?
I have not, but they look exactly the same. I'm talking about the slave cylinder here as that's the problematic bit. I haven't checked that thread pitch is the same. I'm told it's all the same and will bolt up.
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BikePilot wrote:
Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently...
Bolt on a the Brembo slave from a KTM. It'd basically identical except the seal seems to hold up better. Fwiw I've seen them fail frequently on the 4 strokes, but have yet to see one fail on the two strokes. Same part #, so no idea why it seems to work out that way. Heat maybe? 60hrs on my Magura slave on my TX300 and no problems. I have a new brembo slave in my parts box just in case though.
Broseph wrote:
Have you ever tried bolting up a Brembo to a bike that had a Magura? How did you overcome the different clutch line fittings?
BikePilot wrote:
I have not, but they look exactly the same. I'm talking about the slave cylinder here as that's the problematic bit. I haven't checked that thread...
I have not, but they look exactly the same. I'm talking about the slave cylinder here as that's the problematic bit. I haven't checked that thread pitch is the same. I'm told it's all the same and will bolt up.
They definitely bolt up to the cases just fine, but the fittings are different. The Magura uses something like a flare fitting that seals below the threads and has a separate bleed screw. The Brembo uses a banjo bolt with an integrated bleed screw. The question is whether or not the Brembo body can accept the Magura flared fitting and seal below the threads. You would lose the bleed screw with a Brembo body and Magura line, but maybe it could be bled through the fitting.

You might be right that it works just fine. I was just wondering if you has tried it.

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No need for changing the complete slave. 19 and older HQV have a lousy quad ring that blows after a couple hours but could be replaced with an O-ring. All these bikes can use the better Brembo piston as the diameter is the same. HQV 2020 models have the same set-up as KTM so this should not happen anymore.
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12/28/2020 1:55pm Edited Date/Time 12/28/2020 1:57pm
Broseph wrote:
They definitely bolt up to the cases just fine, but the fittings are different. The Magura uses something like a flare fitting that seals below the...
They definitely bolt up to the cases just fine, but the fittings are different. The Magura uses something like a flare fitting that seals below the threads and has a separate bleed screw. The Brembo uses a banjo bolt with an integrated bleed screw. The question is whether or not the Brembo body can accept the Magura flared fitting and seal below the threads. You would lose the bleed screw with a Brembo body and Magura line, but maybe it could be bled through the fitting.

You might be right that it works just fine. I was just wondering if you has tried it.

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Thanks! I hadn't noticed that difference and haven't tried it. Thanks for the intel!

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