MXoN's 2021

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5/24/2021 10:21pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2021 4:18pm
Its been said that Italy with host the 2021 Motocross Of Nations at a purpose built track in Imola.

No advantage to anyone as the track will be new.

The question is, which country will be able to field a stronger team than JH, GC and CV (Nederlands)?

The US has the riders but will they go?
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It's slated for Mantova.

I can't see it happening myself. If a few teams can't or won't go they'll be no point having it.
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5/24/2021 10:44pm
Boomslang wrote:
Its been said that Italy with host the 2021 Motocross Of Nations at a purpose built track in Imola. No advantage to anyone as the track...
Its been said that Italy with host the 2021 Motocross Of Nations at a purpose built track in Imola.

No advantage to anyone as the track will be new.

The question is, which country will be able to field a stronger team than JH, GC and CV (Nederlands)?

The US has the riders but will they go?
Imola's track wouldnt have been new. But it doesnt matter because 2021 MXoN will be in Mantova.
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Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
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bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
No point sending a team ,when your so called " Stars" can't win lately.😆😆😭
We r the stars of the show 🤥🤥
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5/24/2021 11:04pm
bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
Last win for team USA was 2011 in France. So the "stars of the show" will have some work to do...
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5/24/2021 11:06pm
bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
being not from a America i completely agree, its always been the USA vs rest of world and id have no interest if the USA didn`t attend.
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bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
bowl wrote:
No point sending a team ,when your so called " Stars" can't win lately.😆😆😭
We r the stars of the show 🤥🤥

Want some Chips with that salt.
Aussies team will be hard to pick barring injuries.
Lawrence Brothers, Jed Beaton, Mitch Evans, The Duffman, Luke Clout, Todd Waters.
Pffft may aswell send 2 teams and make it a Podium 1-2Woohoo
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5/24/2021 11:27pm
bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
bowl wrote:
No point sending a team ,when your so called " Stars" can't win lately.😆😆😭
We r the stars of the show 🤥🤥
66TR66 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/24/494755/s1200_Very_Good.jpg[/img] Want some Chips with that salt. Aussies team will be hard to pick barring injuries. Lawrence Brothers, Jed Beaton, Mitch Evans, The Duffman, Luke Clout...

Want some Chips with that salt.
Aussies team will be hard to pick barring injuries.
Lawrence Brothers, Jed Beaton, Mitch Evans, The Duffman, Luke Clout, Todd Waters.
Pffft may aswell send 2 teams and make it a Podium 1-2Woohoo
The Lawrence brothers and Evans appear strongest at this point.
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I'm on team OZ-hype train. The podium should happen.

Team Oranje is bound to be on podium if Hoff and Bullet are able to get on the bike.

Team France... hmm... Is FFM going to shoot itself in the foot again for a bunch of logos? Febvre, Vialle/Renaux/Benistant & Ferrandis/Musquin/Tixier/Paturel might work (circle your own team of choice). But what if it was the Paulin magic that made the dream come true?

Team USA is big unknown for me. Eli, Bam Bam and Justin Cooper?

Ben Watson looks solid (keeping Herlings on his toes in Lyng) so team UK can be fringe podium contender depends how will Conrad do in the season and if Ben stays healthy. Slap SS24 or the main banterologist #100 Tommy Searle and the damage can be done.

Team Germany is questionmark. Will KR94 want to represent? Laengenfelder looks really rapid if his fittness is there he might score some MX2 wins in the season no doubt. Is Henry Jacobi the new "Marcus Schiffer" for this team?

Team Switzerland. Their time is comming. Seewer and Tonus need to be kept in an hermetically insulated bubble and handled with upmost care & maybe Mike Gwerder can pull out the "Laengenfelder" of 2019.

Team Belgium. Well it can be defined by one word "non-condender". Sorry not sorry but you can't push van Horebeek and Strijbos in the dusk of their careers to be the main guys, That's where Lieber should have been if he wouldn't retire, followed by Desalle if he wouldn't retire... Geerts is awesome & Everts is... well still brewing.. but overall TOP5 would be miracle.

If i'm not mistaken Tanel Leok will not ride MXoN and that is sad.

And for the sake of a good fun i will put here the team CZE. Well if it will be in Imola on sand then we are fricked as frick man... If it is in Mantova we are also fricked but only half as much. Optimal Choice would be
MX1 - Kovář (his pre-season was weaker compared to previous years...)
MX2 - Polák/Terešák (again nothing extra to write home about but Petr polák had decent race this weekend so i would choose him if he is healthy)
OPEN - Krč/Neugebauer/Michek (Krč got long-term armpump issues so we will se about this season, Neugebauer will spend this season on 250 2smoker so idk how he would do in sand on 4fatty, Michek is slowly turning into Dakar-rally specialist but i would assume if he does well in the national championship he might be in the talks, depends on calendar colisions and injuries)
The goal of the team would be to not get injured and to qualify to the race because we hate sand - from the young age we wage wars against sandpaper, sandglass & sand-tracks. Angry
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Webb, Osborne and (Justin) Cooper would be a badass team
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MXON is in the middle of the MXGP season, how many riders do care about it? I can see riders skip it when they are in the title hunt.

This is the most stupid thing ever.
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bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
Spoken like a true Yank.
There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that way for awhile.
They’re still a main attraction, but there’s often been others more impressive for the last decade.

As for the organisers doing zero to help your team??? WTF narcissistic attitude is that?! Sorry the world doesn’t revolve around you. The US has more resources on hand then most. Meanwhile riders from small countries barely able to afford a spare spark plug, make their own way every year, just for the privilege to compete. And often that’s in the middle of their own domestic series, yet they do it anyway, and are happy to.

Time to put on your big girl panties and put up, or shut up.
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5/25/2021 3:05am
As a life long fan of the sport the MXoN is my favorite race of the year. I will enjoy it the same if we send a team or not.

NFG on dropping it in the middle of the MXGP season. The GP guys will be at the MXoN. No excuses anymore.



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Webb, Osborne and (Justin) Cooper would be a badass team
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 Smile (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the first moto Wink )
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bowl wrote:
No point sending a team ,when your so called " Stars" can't win lately.😆😆😭
We r the stars of the show 🤥🤥
66TR66 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/05/24/494755/s1200_Very_Good.jpg[/img] Want some Chips with that salt. Aussies team will be hard to pick barring injuries. Lawrence Brothers, Jed Beaton, Mitch Evans, The Duffman, Luke Clout...

Want some Chips with that salt.
Aussies team will be hard to pick barring injuries.
Lawrence Brothers, Jed Beaton, Mitch Evans, The Duffman, Luke Clout, Todd Waters.
Pffft may aswell send 2 teams and make it a Podium 1-2Woohoo
The Lawrence brothers and Evans appear strongest at this point.
Stronger than who? You think the Lawrence bros (one of which would most likely have to ride a 450) and Evans would be stronger than Tomac, Barcia, Osborne, AC, Plessinger, Anderson, Webb, Sexton, Mookie, J Cooper, Nichols, Forkner, Craig etc, etc, etc? Pick any 2 of those 450 guys and one of the 250 guys and they have a legit shot at a podium. How many other countries can say that?

I don’t think anyone can beat the Netherlands at this point unless Coldenhoff or Herlings get hurt or don’t race it. The rest of the podium is up for grabs. France will really miss Paulin by the way.
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bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
CPR wrote:
Spoken like a true Yank. There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that...
Spoken like a true Yank.
There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that way for awhile.
They’re still a main attraction, but there’s often been others more impressive for the last decade.

As for the organisers doing zero to help your team??? WTF narcissistic attitude is that?! Sorry the world doesn’t revolve around you. The US has more resources on hand then most. Meanwhile riders from small countries barely able to afford a spare spark plug, make their own way every year, just for the privilege to compete. And often that’s in the middle of their own domestic series, yet they do it anyway, and are happy to.

Time to put on your big girl panties and put up, or shut up.
Good post. I love the MXdN and will be watching whether the USA sends a team or not. Obviously it will be better (for me) if they do send a team since I’m an American and would certainly be rooting for them. Regardless, the more competitive teams at the event the better. With Team USA you’re getting yet another podium threat no matter who is racing for them.

I can’t wait and really hope it doesn’t get canceled.
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Webb, Osborne and (Justin) Cooper would be a badass team
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 :) (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the...
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 Smile (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the first moto Wink )
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut it out after his injury.
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Webb, Osborne and (Justin) Cooper would be a badass team
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 :) (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the...
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 Smile (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the first moto Wink )
agn5008 wrote:
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut...
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut it out after his injury.
All healthy, I would like to see Webb, Osborne and J-Mart... All have a little to prove and the chip on the shoulder helps at MXoN in my opinion.
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How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 :) (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the...
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 Smile (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the first moto Wink )
agn5008 wrote:
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut...
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut it out after his injury.
Press516 wrote:
All healthy, I would like to see Webb, Osborne and J-Mart... All have a little to prove and the chip on the shoulder helps at MXoN...
All healthy, I would like to see Webb, Osborne and J-Mart... All have a little to prove and the chip on the shoulder helps at MXoN in my opinion.
Dang, I forgot about JMart. Another great option to choose from for sure.
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USA is not sending a team this year.
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bowl wrote:
No point sending a team ,when your so called " Stars" can't win lately.😆😆😭
We r the stars of the show 🤥🤥
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Eli is switching teams at the end of the year, no matter what he ain’t going.
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The allure of the MXdN has always been the AMA guys vs the GP guys for me.. not just Team USA but Kenny, Marvin, Dylan, now the Lawerence brothers etc. so while the guys post has an extreme narcissistic feel to it, he’s got a little bit of a point. It just wouldn’t be the same if we can’t get some of the AMA racers over there to Mantova.
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5/25/2021 8:06am Edited Date/Time 5/25/2021 8:09am
The allure of the MXdN has always been the AMA guys vs the GP guys for me.. not just Team USA but Kenny, Marvin, Dylan, now...
The allure of the MXdN has always been the AMA guys vs the GP guys for me.. not just Team USA but Kenny, Marvin, Dylan, now the Lawerence brothers etc. so while the guys post has an extreme narcissistic feel to it, he’s got a little bit of a point. It just wouldn’t be the same if we can’t get some of the AMA racers over there to Mantova.
There's always Team Puerto Rico. Grinning
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Webb, Osborne and (Justin) Cooper would be a badass team
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 :) (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the...
How about Eli, Bam Bam and Webb. Flip a coin over who rides the 250 Smile (Also do something to piss Eli off just before the first moto Wink )
agn5008 wrote:
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut...
I wanna give Justin Cooper another shot. He proved he could run up front and I gained so much respect for him for trying to gut it out after his injury.
Exactly. Cooper rode his face off last time. Who knows what would have happened had that crash with Anderson not happened. Barcia and Eli have already been enough times
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Webb, Osborne and (Justin) Cooper would be a badass team
Very.

Tomac is out, calling it right now. Changing bikes, Kawi would not support and Yami wants him here to prep the blue pig for SX.

I thought I saw here that that Marvin was going to naturalize so France wouldn't want him. Maybe that was what has kept him off Team France. France doesn't seem to want it's expats on their team but lets see how they do in the Nationals.
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5/25/2021 10:11am Edited Date/Time 5/25/2021 10:26am
Zach is all in on going this year. He is also going to try and hit a few GP’s before or after if he can get the details worked out.
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bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
CPR wrote:
Spoken like a true Yank. There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that...
Spoken like a true Yank.
There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that way for awhile.
They’re still a main attraction, but there’s often been others more impressive for the last decade.

As for the organisers doing zero to help your team??? WTF narcissistic attitude is that?! Sorry the world doesn’t revolve around you. The US has more resources on hand then most. Meanwhile riders from small countries barely able to afford a spare spark plug, make their own way every year, just for the privilege to compete. And often that’s in the middle of their own domestic series, yet they do it anyway, and are happy to.

Time to put on your big girl panties and put up, or shut up.
Very solid and classy points CPR. It’s an irrelevant race and we have nothing to prove. The evolution of the sport over here and in places like AUS are placing more emphasis in different arenas. maybe if they did a combined MXGP & SXGP that would be the true test.

As far as other countries with smaller budgets continuing to compete, that’s their choice. It’s no hidden fact that budgeting has put a damper on things. The level that the US is expected to compete at is far different from that of smaller countries. Maybe if more countries stopped participating the promoters would be forced to help the smaller guys.
Plus I find more enjoyment watching TP199 and Ronnie Mack doin backflips on the parade lap and raising money for fundraisers

Anyway
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bigk218 wrote:
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of...
Without the USA it’s just another weekend race. The organizers and promoters do zero to help our teams and riders yet we are the stars of the show. Plus traveling outside the country isn’t why it used to be. I don’t see the us having a reason to send anyone any time soon.
CPR wrote:
Spoken like a true Yank. There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that...
Spoken like a true Yank.
There’s no doubt that once upon a time, the USA were THE stars of the show, but it hasn’t been that way for awhile.
They’re still a main attraction, but there’s often been others more impressive for the last decade.

As for the organisers doing zero to help your team??? WTF narcissistic attitude is that?! Sorry the world doesn’t revolve around you. The US has more resources on hand then most. Meanwhile riders from small countries barely able to afford a spare spark plug, make their own way every year, just for the privilege to compete. And often that’s in the middle of their own domestic series, yet they do it anyway, and are happy to.

Time to put on your big girl panties and put up, or shut up.
bigk218 wrote:
Very solid and classy points CPR. It’s an irrelevant race and we have nothing to prove. The evolution of the sport over here and in places...
Very solid and classy points CPR. It’s an irrelevant race and we have nothing to prove. The evolution of the sport over here and in places like AUS are placing more emphasis in different arenas. maybe if they did a combined MXGP & SXGP that would be the true test.

As far as other countries with smaller budgets continuing to compete, that’s their choice. It’s no hidden fact that budgeting has put a damper on things. The level that the US is expected to compete at is far different from that of smaller countries. Maybe if more countries stopped participating the promoters would be forced to help the smaller guys.
Plus I find more enjoyment watching TP199 and Ronnie Mack doin backflips on the parade lap and raising money for fundraisers

Anyway
Irrelevant to you not the thousands of American core motocross fans. You are correct with “we have nothing to prove”. I’m totally fine with the USA not winning. We ain’t all that anymore. We don’t have to win. We just have to try. Enjoy your Ronnie Mac vids. We will find a way to get through the MXoN’s without you.

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