MXGP of Turkey - September 7-8

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9/3/2019 4:53 AM

A lot of wildcards from the EMX-classes and some local riders aswell.
This round will hold the final of the WMX and EMX2t-championships.

Timetable: http://docs.mxgp.com/tvinfo/2019_MXGP_of_Turkey_Timetable.pdf

MXGP
4 Arnaud Tonus SUI FMS Yamaha Monster Energy Wilvo Yamaha
7 Tanel Leok EST EMF Husqvarna A1M Husqvarna
18 Vsevolod Brylyakov RUS MFR Yamaha JWR Yamaha Racing
21 Gautier Paulin FRA MCM Yamaha Monster Energy Wilvo Yamaha
22 Kevin Strijbos BEL FMB Yamaha JWR Yamaha Racing
24 Shaun Simpson GBR ACU KTM RFX KTM Racing powered by PAR Homes
27 Arminas Jasikonis LTU LMSF Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory Racing
34 Micha Boy de Waal NED KNMV Yamaha Hutten Metaal Yamaha Racing
36 Şakir Şenkalaycı TUR TMF KTM
40 Fırat Şahin TUR TMF Husqvarna
41 Pauls Jonass LAT LaMSF Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory Racing
77 Alessandro Lupino ITA FMI Kawasaki Team Gebben V Venrooy Kawasaki
84 Jeffrey Herlings NED KNMV KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
89 Jeremy Van Horebeek BEL FMB Honda Team Honda SR Motoblouz
91 Jeremy Seewer SUI FMS Yamaha Monster Energy Yamaha Factory Racing
100 Tommy Searle GBR ACU Kawasaki Monster Energy Kawasaki Racing
114 Pascal Dorseuil FRA FFM KTM
127 Anthony Rodríguez VEN FMV Yamaha Hutten Metaal Yamaha Racing
128 Ivo Monticelli ITA FMI KTM Standing Construct KTM
152 Petar Petrov BUL BMF KTM North Europe Racing KTM
185 Mehmet Çelik TUR TMF KTM
189 Brian Bogers NED KNMV Honda Team HRC
226 Tom Koch GER DMSB KTM KTM Sarholz Racing Team
243 Tim Gajser SLO AMZS Honda Team HRC
259 Glenn Coldenhoff NED KNMV KTM Standing Construct KTM
261 Murat Başterzi TUR TMF KTM
306 Panagiotis Kouzis GRE AMOTOE Suzuki
471 Volodymyr Tarasov UKR FMU KTM Team Iannarone
555 Artem Guryev RUS MFR Husqvarna AG Racing
911 Jordi Tixier FRA FFM KTM Team VHR KTM Racing

MX2
10 Calvin Vlaanderen NED KNMV Honda Team HRC
14 Jed Beaton AUS MA Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory Racing
19 Thomas Kjær Olsen DEN DMU Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory Racing
28 Tom Vialle FRA FFM KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
32 Brent Van Doninck BEL FMB Honda Team Honda RedMoto Assomotor
35 Mitchell Harrison USA AMA Kawasaki BUD Racing Kawasaki
39 Roan van de Moosdijk NED KNMV Kawasaki F&H Racing Team
43 Mitchell Evans AUS MA Honda Honda 114 Motorsports
53 Dylan Walsh NZL MNZ Husqvarna REVO Husqvarna UK
56 Gustavo Pessoa BRA CBM Kawasaki Bike It DRT Kawasaki
57 Darian Sanayei USA ACU Kawasaki Bike It DRT Kawasaki
58 Mustafa Çetin TUR TMF Yamaha
61 Jorge Prado ESP RFME KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
66 Iker Larrañaga ESP RFME KTM Marchetti Racing Team KTM
101 Zachary Pichon FRA FFM Honda Honda 114 Motorsports
102 Richard Šikyňa SVK SMF KTM JD Gunnex KTM Racing Team
112 Emircan Şenkalaycı TUR TMF KTM
121 Mattia Guadagnini ITA FMI Husqvarna Team Maddii Racing Husqvarna
124 Jakub Terešák CZE ACCR KTM HT Group Racing Team
161 Alvin Östlund SWE SVEMO Husqvarna REVO Husqvarna UK
172 Mathys Boisramé FRA FFM Honda Team Honda RedMoto Assomotor
193 Jago Geerts BEL FMB Yamaha Monster Energy Kemea Yamaha
225 Brian Strubhart-Moreau FRA FFM Kawasaki BUD Racing Kawasaki
240 Kevin Horgmo NOR NMF KTM Creymert Racing
253 Jan Pancar SLO AMZS Yamaha Yamaha Delta Team Krško JP 253
303 Alberto Forato ITA FMI Husqvarna Team Maddii Racing Husqvarna
313 Petr Polák CZE ACCR KTM JD Gunnex KTM Racing Team
332 Marcel Conijn NED KNMV Kawasaki Team Gebben V Venrooy Kawasaki
410 Raivo Dankers NED KNMV Yamaha Hutten Metaal Yamaha Racing
811 Adam Sterry GBR ACU Kawasaki F&H Racing Team
959 Maxime Renaux FRA FFM Yamaha Yamaha SM Action - M.C. Migliori

WMX
9 Virginie Germond SUI FMS KTM
71 Demi Verploegh NED KNMV KTM
85 Nancy van de Ven NED KNMV Yamaha
99 Manon Haudoire FRA FFM Yamaha
100 Eline Burgmans NED KNMV KTM
111 Anne Borchers GER DMSB Suzuki Suzuki Reinecke
121 Elisa Galvagno ITA FMI Suzuki Ceres 71 Racing
131 Line Dam DEN DMU Honda
151 Courtney Duncan NZL MNZ Kawasaki Bike It DRT Kawasaki
172 Lynn Valk NED KNMV Yamaha JK Racing Yamaha
188 Shana van der Vlist NED KNMV KTM
203 Camille Viaud FRA FFM Yamaha
274 Amandine Verstappen BEL FMB Yamaha
325 Sara Andersen DEN DMU KTM
423 Larissa Papenmeier GER DMSB Yamaha MX Fonta Racing Syneco
964 Nicky van Wordragen NED KNMV Yamaha Nine Six Four

EMX2t
1 Brad Anderson GBR ACU KTM Verde Substance KTM
21 Marco Lolli ITA FMI Yamaha Ceres 71 Racing
55 Mike Kras NED KNMV KTM Team Ecomaxx Fuels
86 Matteo Del Coco ITA FMI KTM
181 Dimitrios Baxevanis GRE AMOTOE Yamaha
311 Marek Nešpor CZE ACCR KTM
365 Nikolaj Skovgaard NOR NMF KTM
371 Manuel Iacopi ITA FMI Yamaha JK Racing Yamaha
385 Sebastian Zenato ITA FMI Yamaha
531 Francesco Galligari ITA FMI Husqvarna Team Maddii Racing Husqvarna
731 Andrea Vendruscolo ITA FMI Yamaha
822 Mike Bolink NED KNMV KTM
888 Gianluca Deghi ITA FMI KTM
998 Todd Kellett GBR ACU Yamaha

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9/3/2019 5:06 AM

'A lot of wildcards', I still only see 30 and 31 riders on the list in MXGP and MX2 while they have 40 spots, pathetic

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9/3/2019 5:08 AM

And only 14 twostroke riders and 16 women. What a bullshit championships

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9/3/2019 5:35 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

'A lot of wildcards', I still only see 30 and 31 riders on the list in MXGP and MX2 while they have 40 spots, pathetic

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9/3/2019 5:42 AM

Please explain to me, why is there a 40 rider startinggate it they can't even get it filled once a year? Nobody is waiting on these amateurs from Turky and Greece. There are much much better riders in National championships around Europe, like in Belgium

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9/3/2019 5:50 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

Please explain to me, why is there a 40 rider startinggate it they can't even get it filled once a year? Nobody is waiting on ...more

I said: "a lot of wildcards from the EMX-classes and some local riders". You need to read properly before you complain.

Van de Moosdijk, Guadagnini, Horgmo, Forato and Dankers aren't such a bad choice to fill in for all those injured riders, now are they? And because of the long journey a lot of smaller teams / privateers choose not to make the travel. If you think this is new, check the GP's of Venezuela, Brazil, Japan or Indonesia in the 80s and 90s. Same problem.

You're right about the Turkish / Greek / Indonesian / ... riders, though.

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9/3/2019 6:12 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

Please explain to me, why is there a 40 rider startinggate it they can't even get it filled once a year? Nobody is waiting on ...more

"Can't even get it filled once a year"

You don't watch gp's much do you?

The majority of the GP had 40 guys lined up at the start of the weekend.

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9/3/2019 6:27 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

Please explain to me, why is there a 40 rider startinggate it they can't even get it filled once a year? Nobody is waiting on ...more

It's because that Prick, Luongo, has, as his 'model', things like MotoGP, and now WSBK (which I saw only 18 bikes on the grid recently, and, MotoGP has a limit of something like 24 riders), with his "best of the best" line.

I sure as f**k don't agree with Luongo's 'model' , I never have, but it's been this way for a fair few years now. To not have gathered the bastards 'model', seems a bit ignorant, on so many posters part.

Things like the various EMX series, shows how strong MX is in Europe, and, on the whole, I like them, but, I'd rather see more of those competitors going into the MX2 and MXGP series, and not be in the EMX classes. And, of course, No age limit, or Titles limit in the MX2 class. It's a World Championship - not a regional one, like EMX and US 250SX.

Limited competitors in the fly away races, late season races? Yes, understandable, as there's always injury, and budget attrition towards the end of the seasons. Plus, that bastard Luongo, gives sweet FA in travel and expenses money. Hell, go back into the archives and see how few 500GP regulars attended the Canadian and USGPs, some years, in the Carlsbad GP era.

There's the EMX Open class coming next year, so that will be interesting to see what comes of it.

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9/3/2019 6:28 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

Please explain to me, why is there a 40 rider startinggate it they can't even get it filled once a year? Nobody is waiting on ...more

not sure what series you have been watching but there have been 35+ riders on the line in almost all of the GPs in Europe.
Obviously in Indonesia, Russia or Turkey the gates aren't full. If the AMA did a race in another country (e.g. the UK) do you think a lot of privateers would make the trip to try and qualify?

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9/3/2019 6:39 AM

Noy sure what series YOU have been watching, but they never had a full startinggate in MXGP this season, and only once it was 35+ this whole season.

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9/3/2019 6:40 AM

Bearuno wrote:

It's because that Prick, Luongo, has, as his 'model', things like MotoGP, and now WSBK (which I saw only 18 bikes on the grid recently, and, MotoGP has a limit of something like 24 riders), with his "best of the best" line.

Sorry don't agree. We have always had this in overseas and far away GP's. Example:
30 years ago, end of season 1989 125cc GP's in Argentina and Brasil we had Niclas Salzman, Eduardo Saduku, Rogierieo Noglueira, Gilberto Narezzi, Claudio Pesce and Jorge Negretti (all from brazil and argentina) score points.
Not because they were that great, but because there was only a small group of riders making the long trip (and that was in a season with only 12 GP's, travel money and start money).

We have had a bunch of GP's this season with 40 guys in MXGP and MX2. Any decent privateer can get a wildcard for these abroad races, but there simply isnt that much interest by privateers to spend a huge amount of money and finish 18-16 and score some points.
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9/3/2019 6:43 AM

roninho wrote:
Bearuno wrote:

It's because that Prick, Luongo, has, as his 'model', things like MotoGP, and now WSBK (which I saw only 18 ...more

There was NEVER a full 40 rider startinggate this season in MXGP, and only once they managed to get 35+ (37 riders)

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9/3/2019 6:45 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

Noy sure what series YOU have been watching, but they never had a full startinggate in MXGP this season, and only once it was ...more

They had multiple GP's with over 35 riders at the first practice of the weekend, i don't think they had 40 entries at any gp.

MX2 had multiple GP's with 40 in the first practice. To be honest i don't know if they actually had 40 riders at the gate.

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9/3/2019 6:46 AM

CalimeroFan wrote:

There was NEVER a full 40 rider startinggate this season in MXGP, and only once they managed to get 35+ (37 riders)

Yes i agree on the 40 rider gate.

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9/3/2019 10:58 AM

roninho wrote:
Bearuno wrote:

It's because that Prick, Luongo, has, as his 'model', things like MotoGP, and now WSBK (which I saw only 18 ...more

Re-read my reference to low number of GP regulars at the Canadian and Carlsbad GPs - those 2, put in for those that barely look outward from their country. Hell, most of said people, probably don't know there were a few Canadian GPs. They relied heavily on 'wildcards' / Locals.

It's been that way for Decades, at nearly all non European based GPs. You think I didn't know that? - I've followed the GPs since the 60s.

And, sometimes, 'Wildcards', do well enough to get a shot at the GPs, proper. Hell , that's how Rodney Smith got into the GPs, when he was racing in Brazil, from him impressing so much in South American GP(s). Same with a couple of Aussies, through the Broadford GPs.

But, Luongos basic 'model', is less riders. He even got put into the rules, a few years ago, a 30 rider maximum gate in 450 GPs, around the time he tried it on with the idiotic "Super Finals". Thankfully, both of those 'disappeared', rapidly . He doesn't give a flying f**k about full grids. That's patently obvious, to even the most cretinous. He sees MotoGP, WSBK, and some other major Motorsports, and, like those events, only gives thought to the Video Visuals. But, he'll take pretty much anyone's entry money, especially at flyaways, to put into his pocket.

And. it's blokes like CalimeroFan, and others that seem to constantly want to denigrate the GPs, that don't see / take in the fact that , much of the time, in the European / Brit GPs, there are more riders on the gate, than the 30 / 31 he comes out with.

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9/3/2019 12:52 PM

Rather have a smaller gate of competitive riders than a gate filled out with 3 rd lap lappers

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“If you don’t crash alot, you just ain’t going fast enough” Chandler

9/3/2019 1:04 PM

One thing they have succeeded in doing is making it so expensive and far from home that 30 riders on the gate is a good number even if #'s 24-30 get lapped in 5 minutes.

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9/3/2019 1:16 PM

CalimeroFan wrote:

'A lot of wildcards', I still only see 30 and 31 riders on the list in MXGP and MX2 while they have 40 spots, pathetic

Boo Hoo. No one gives a fuck what you think. Don't like it, go do some knitting.

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9/3/2019 5:35 PM

CalimeroFan wrote:

Noy sure what series YOU have been watching, but they never had a full startinggate in MXGP this season, and only once it was ...more

If riders get injured on Saturday and don't line up on Sunday it's really not the series' fault, is it?
In MXGP it has been a little less, but there were also at least 4 or 5 GPs with 35+ entries on Saturday. And several more with 32-34 riders. In MX2 a lot more GPs had 35+ entries.
It's not as bad as you make it sound.

But I agree, races like Indonesia, Russia, etc suck

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9/7/2019 1:14 AM

5 riders in EMX 2T and 11 in WMX.

To be honest imo the best thing that could happen. This is such a low turnout that YS will have to change things for 2020 and come up with a schedule that makes sense for EMX/WMX.

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9/7/2019 1:52 AM

I would not be surprised if they change the schedule for 2020 due to this.

It is an awfull look PR wise, they spend a lot of money on the tv feeds/broadcasts to show off they have 5 riders and they miss 20k in entry feesfrom WMX and EMX 2T compared to having a full field. Budget wise a WMX/EMX rider probably can do more gp's a year if you keep them close to southwest europe.
Just scrap those far away gps for the emx/wmx serie and have local classes at those gps without the broadcast.

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9/7/2019 2:11 AM

They will never learn it, they do it every year again.

This is just a big shit show.

They should go back to the format what they had mid 2000 to 2012. Comeback with a MX3 class wich will get populair with the whole mxgp class rides and put the WMX, 2 strokes or EMX 125/250 next to it for more round and all in central europe

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9/7/2019 3:14 AM

Guadagnini 6th in MX2 free practice. Kid is on rails.

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9/7/2019 3:41 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/7/2019 3:43 AM

kaidoddragon wrote:

Guadagnini 6th in MX2 free practice. Kid is on rails.

Is he on a 250 2 or 4 stroke?

EDIT. Never mind, of course it’s a 4 stroke since it’s the world championship lol. That’s really impressive.

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9/7/2019 4:25 AM

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9/7/2019 5:08 AM

How do numbers get assigned in MXGP?
Did Arnoud Tonus earn the number 4 or he just selected it??

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9/7/2019 5:16 AM

Prado into the 1.45, only Renaux in 1.47 otherwise everybody around 1.48 at best. Wow

Great performance from EMX250 champ Van De Moosdijk in 7th.

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9/7/2019 5:43 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/7/2019 5:45 AM

roninho wrote:
Bearuno wrote:

It's because that Prick, Luongo, has, as his 'model', things like MotoGP, and now WSBK (which I saw only 18 ...more

Ok i easily criticize luongo and the federations because i think the money must go the riders and then local infrustructures, not just 10 people.

That said, for oversea races, some of the riders who don't go could also get a deal with a local dealer/national importer, and just go with suspensions and some parts. I am not that old, 37, but i think it was 10 times more difficult to travel to do the world championship back in the 80's (no internet, no gps, more frontiers, more visa, more admin burden, more expensive travels, less english speaking people). Some riders also need to understand they are not faster with a graphic kit, nor a semi.

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9/7/2019 5:53 AM

motonation24 wrote:

How do numbers get assigned in MXGP?
Did Arnoud Tonus earn the number 4 or he just selected it??

You can pick whatever number you want that is available.

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9/7/2019 5:58 AM

Why didn’t Prado move to the 450 with the title already wrapped up?

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