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(7) What’s fair? How about a 250cc class that is open to 250cc machinery regardless of its engine type. The four-stroke only got where it is today because someone wrote a rule in 1997 that allowed to be bigger. That same someone could could write a new rule in 2013 that would make the advantage go away.
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(7) What’s fair? How about a 250cc class that is open to 250cc machinery regardless of its engine type. The four-stroke only got where it is today because someone wrote a rule in 1997 that allowed to be bigger. That same someone could could write a new rule in 2013 that would make the advantage go away.
If you change the rule and some guys get on two-strokes and win races, what are you going to tell Suzuki, Kawasaki and Honda who spend millions of dollars racing your series and don't have a bike to compete with?
Sorry guys? Thanks for the support but now we've made it so you're going to be at a competitive disadvantage. They'll just go home.
Blame the AMA back in the day for making the ridiculous displacement rules and then being slow to change them. Blame all the dudes who paid full pop for thumpers and then when they all flew out the door, blame the OEM's for giving consumers what they want. Just don't blame the people in power now because this horse has left the barn.
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If you did change the rule, you'd have to give the OEM's a 3 year warning. That's generally how far ahead they are in planning.
The guy runs a magazine but can't get a stopwatch to figure this out?
The guy doesn't go to pro races so as long as Glen Helen allows 250t vs 250f why would he care? Do they not?
Seeing how the older vet rider is the meat and potato market for mx these days, a lot of these folks have seen the downside of the four stroke(mostly the 250F's) and have pointed their kids in a different direction. I might even say 70% of them have pointed their kids in a different direction....
Matthes is not only drinking the industry Kool Aid, he's also doing his best to get everyone else to drink it.
The no-link 450SXF was pretty much the same bike for years.
They've gone through and re-done the 250F twice in six years which is fine but not exactly every year. Yes, they made an all-new 450 but so did Yamaha three years ago (Honda did it this year) and now, in 2014, Yamaha is making major changes. Besides, the all-new Dungey bike motor was already based off their off-road model motor. The designer of the motor told me that himself. It wasn't all-new.
There's also the economy dump and the Yen falling in dollar while the Euro stayed strong helping out the guys at KTM. More profit for the Austrians than the Japanese. But still, Japanese guys haven't been that behind compared to KTM.
For an example of changing the rules to suit different machines that other OEM's don't have, see AMA roadracing and what's become of that series. We all like pro mx and sx and want it to be supported strong right?
If you're high end racing in the 250 class then yes, you'll be spending a lot of money. So now that we eliminate that 3% of people you're left with a reliable bike that needs simple maintenance from time to time.
And if you want to get into pro racing, a privateer in the 450 class has NEVER been so close to a factory bike as it is now. Including the two stroke days. So better for 450's and worse for 250's...
Pit Row
Let 150cc two strokes run against the 250F's. Or 125's against 200's.
Have 250cc two strokes run against 350cc four strokes.
Nobody has to start over, just change cylinder design.
Oh...and... These were the AMA rules all along, pre-1997, by the way minus the 150cc two stroke part.
If they admitted that riding a two stroke was indeed cheaper and more fun....how would any of those portly loud thumpers ever get sold?
People just want to complain.
I grew up and raced two-strokes & was a mechanic for a long time when they raced. And four-strokes have made sx more predictable & less exciting than it was in those days. But you can't change the rules now, it wouldn't be fair for the reasons I've already stated. And as a bit of a gear head, I love the advances and technology of the thumpers as opposed to years and years of two-strokes being the same exact bike.
BUT the original post was about MXA and that's what caused me to post. The hypocrisy of Jody is amazing and if he would just come out and admit that he LOVED the four-strokes and promoted the shit out of them when they first hit the scene (and therefore helped to ruin the two-stroke sales in a small way) and say that he was wrong, it would be fine. But he's too arrogant for to do that and that is why his manifesto's are garbage. Same as the anti-GP stance he took until his buddies at GH got a GP and he switched to liking the GP's- but now he hates the GP"s again. It's BS and I'm not sure how anyone can take him seriously at this point.
It's a shame because it was a great magazine.
Thanks for trying, Steve.
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