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So I wanted to get some input from the mx community on this, here is the deal.
My daughter and I ride/race/open practice around New England, my current rig set up is a Nissan Titan SV 4x4, (5.6 v8), and a really nice Forest River No Boundaries toy hauler model 19.1. (the 19.1 has nothing to do with the length as this is 24'+? lol).
Issues-
The truck- It has a 6" lift kit on it and huge 35" tires. So you feel every little bump and the rolling resistance is way more with the tires, so I am sure Im down on HP and Torq. It tows fine around town, but when we travel up at elevation in NH, Maine, etc, the hills and engine rpm, (and trans temp) is an issue. It hasn't overheated but close a few times. The motor and trans are tight, only has 84k on it but I find myself really romping on it to get it up long hills and as soon as we hit the back roads, the pace is slower and again, romping on it. Removing the lift and going backwards with the tire size is not an option on this set up as some stuff was made to fit and it is not going back correctly if I had the stocker stuff, (I don't).
The toy hauler- it is one of the nicer ones we could find, it is new, all works, but it is a hair "tight" inside after you load up spare wheels, (2) bikes, gear bags, tools, etc..so we have to put the pressure washer, gas cans, extras in the bed of the truck and it is like a load and unload every time we go to use it bc the truck is also our truck we use to get stuff like hay, (I own a farm), move large things, etc.
SO, there are a few options I have come up with and this is where I would like to table them and see if there are some different points of view on it.
Options-
Sell the truck and buy one that has a larger motor, no lift/large wheel kit. The Chevy/GMC 2500 series has a 6.6L motor in it and can haul the mail and then some all day long. The issue with this is Covid prices at the dealers and the price points. I have found a few that will work, crew cab, etc, but they are $50k, (my truck was $16k), the local dealer basically told me that they are going to get MSRP on the truck from me or someone else, the days of truck deals are gone, ouch. Do I want to spend $50k on a truck? NO. My contention to this was gas is going to $4 a gal here soon, I am not sure sure the dealers will still be getting MSRP, but I feel that the truck market will still be strong.
Keep the current truck and buy a used one with a huge motor that is dedicated to only hauling the race rig. The used prices are also nuts, AND most of these trucks have a crap ton of miles on them, used, beat on, etc. I could easily spend $29K on a used truck with 150k miles. And also now (2) trucks to register, taxes, maintain, etc.
Buy a funmover- this serves a few purposes and I keep coming back to this...it serves as a camper, mx hauler, etc,,one of the issues I have with this is if I have to leave or go somewhere, all your stuff has to be left or secured somehow. We used to have a class c motorhome and ran into this a few times and it sucked..I do have a line on a 2004 Thor 31' that is mint for not a lot of $.
Buy a dedicated boxvan and have it kinda converted. If it were just me, I would do it, but I have my daughter with me and I don't really feel like I want her taking a dump in a bucket at this stage of my life. I have had a few of these over the yrs with my boys and it was fine, but she needs a little bit of the private factor. I could make it so it had a shower, sink, beds, heater, use a genni for food, etc..that typical 90% race rig that you see that someone put a lot of time into to make it work, I don't have the time right now.
Please post back but be kind, thanks-
My daughter and I ride/race/open practice around New England, my current rig set up is a Nissan Titan SV 4x4, (5.6 v8), and a really nice Forest River No Boundaries toy hauler model 19.1. (the 19.1 has nothing to do with the length as this is 24'+? lol).
Issues-
The truck- It has a 6" lift kit on it and huge 35" tires. So you feel every little bump and the rolling resistance is way more with the tires, so I am sure Im down on HP and Torq. It tows fine around town, but when we travel up at elevation in NH, Maine, etc, the hills and engine rpm, (and trans temp) is an issue. It hasn't overheated but close a few times. The motor and trans are tight, only has 84k on it but I find myself really romping on it to get it up long hills and as soon as we hit the back roads, the pace is slower and again, romping on it. Removing the lift and going backwards with the tire size is not an option on this set up as some stuff was made to fit and it is not going back correctly if I had the stocker stuff, (I don't).
The toy hauler- it is one of the nicer ones we could find, it is new, all works, but it is a hair "tight" inside after you load up spare wheels, (2) bikes, gear bags, tools, etc..so we have to put the pressure washer, gas cans, extras in the bed of the truck and it is like a load and unload every time we go to use it bc the truck is also our truck we use to get stuff like hay, (I own a farm), move large things, etc.
SO, there are a few options I have come up with and this is where I would like to table them and see if there are some different points of view on it.
Options-
Sell the truck and buy one that has a larger motor, no lift/large wheel kit. The Chevy/GMC 2500 series has a 6.6L motor in it and can haul the mail and then some all day long. The issue with this is Covid prices at the dealers and the price points. I have found a few that will work, crew cab, etc, but they are $50k, (my truck was $16k), the local dealer basically told me that they are going to get MSRP on the truck from me or someone else, the days of truck deals are gone, ouch. Do I want to spend $50k on a truck? NO. My contention to this was gas is going to $4 a gal here soon, I am not sure sure the dealers will still be getting MSRP, but I feel that the truck market will still be strong.
Keep the current truck and buy a used one with a huge motor that is dedicated to only hauling the race rig. The used prices are also nuts, AND most of these trucks have a crap ton of miles on them, used, beat on, etc. I could easily spend $29K on a used truck with 150k miles. And also now (2) trucks to register, taxes, maintain, etc.
Buy a funmover- this serves a few purposes and I keep coming back to this...it serves as a camper, mx hauler, etc,,one of the issues I have with this is if I have to leave or go somewhere, all your stuff has to be left or secured somehow. We used to have a class c motorhome and ran into this a few times and it sucked..I do have a line on a 2004 Thor 31' that is mint for not a lot of $.
Buy a dedicated boxvan and have it kinda converted. If it were just me, I would do it, but I have my daughter with me and I don't really feel like I want her taking a dump in a bucket at this stage of my life. I have had a few of these over the yrs with my boys and it was fine, but she needs a little bit of the private factor. I could make it so it had a shower, sink, beds, heater, use a genni for food, etc..that typical 90% race rig that you see that someone put a lot of time into to make it work, I don't have the time right now.
Please post back but be kind, thanks-
The Shop
Unless you really WANT the Fun Mover. In that case.....
isn't MCR rig up for sale yet?
That would be my pick of the solutions, everything else either requires inconvenience or massive cost you'll likely regret.
Pit Row
Any reason you can’t just remove the lift and go back to the stock wheel and tire size? That would make the truck more useful to you overall.
My son and I went round and round on what to do. I have a High Country Duramax and had a 28' 5th wheel toy hauler. I was wanting an all in one rig for road tripping and not having to deal with the 5th wheel or constantly load and unload the pick up. We have been riding a lot and the 3 times a week loading and loading was getting old quick. I thought about Sprinters/Transits etc but even fully outfitted you still don't get a bathroom/kitchen or enough space and they end up in $70k range done right. I ended up with a '21 Outlaw 29j Class C Funmover Motorhome and I absolutely love it!!! My son and I use it like a sprinter. I take it to our local tracks and far away. It's nice having everything all in one.
The new ones went from the V10 to the Ford Godzilla 7.3 8 cylinder gas and it rips!! We drive over the Cascade Mountains and fully loaded it cruises at 65-70 fairly easily on the passes. It's sweet being at the track and having everything you need and if it gets cold or hot or windy, you just cruise inside and hang out comfortably. They are spendy AF but I found it's worth it. MSRP is $130k-$140k but I found a small dealer that wanted it off their books and they did it for $95k OTD.. The big dealer in Texas seems to wholesale them pretty affordably also.
https://barnfinds.com/dandy-delivery-1963-chevrolet-corvair-95-corvan/?…
Care to post a pic of what you are towing with it?
When I last looked at gas V8 full sized trucks, the Nissan titan had the worst mpg ratings of all of them... can't imagine running one with a lift kit and big tires.
What happened to the Nissan titan diesel? Didn't it have a all new Cummins engine?
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