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MX World - Season 1, Episode 6 - Europeans vs. Americans
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Nail on the head Roger. Better commit to some grueling sand practice.
I really feel like the USA will come into next years mxdn the underdogs and hopefullt the lower pressure will help.
The way these are produced is just world class
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Anyways, this has been an amazing series! I hope they continue it next year.
You’ve missed the point.
The title was Europeans v America... America have a team at the event Europe don’t... America winning the MXDN doesn’t prove they are better than the “Europeans.” Just like the French riders aren’t better than Prado, Cairoli, Herlings because they win the MXDN.
It’s not a fair comparison as the title suggests because it gives America huge advantage because Europe’s best riders aren’t in one team and America’s are.
The reciprocal would be like having team Europe v USA states with Cairoli, Prado and Herlings in one team against the individual states of America.
To have a fair Europe v America team race, it would need to be like the Ryder Cup. Two actual teams.
But there is an individual world championship out there for any American who wants to become the best motocross rider in the world... the true test of any rider outdoors. That’s the real measuring stick.
The USA season is simply too long. Whilst the Europeans take a few months off to enjoy themselves and prepare for sand training, the Americans barely get a couple of weeks before preparing for circus-cross.
If the AMA is hopeful of our riders being better prepared, a change in the schedule to give American riders more time to prepare may be necessary. Maybe other things that could be looked at for the outdoor series is changing certain tracks to better emulate MXGP style racing and choosing not to groom the tracks prior to racing like happens at MXGP races.
I also feel that Supercross techniques may have a negative affect on true motocross style racing. No doubt, Supercross is exciting to many and gives a huge audience an opportunity to better witness it live, but the style of racing is definitely different.
I do believe that the American riders who want to dedicate the preparation time to compete in the MX des Nations should be our picks, regardless of overall standings. I'm in no way saying that our guys didn't feel this way, but it does take a certain amount of dedication, especially when being held on foreign soil.
And from an Aussie point of view, I'm super excited about our prospects going forward. 4th this year with two 18 year olds was a huge effort. Hunter Lawrence, Jett Lawrence, Jed Beaton, Mitch Evans, Bailey Malkiewicz - none of these guys are 21 yet and they are already kicking goals on the world stage. Maybe I'm biased, but I can see a 1st place for Australia in the not-too-distant future.
This is the part I'm curious about as well. Why was the decision made (and who made it) to make the track more "European" at des Nations, but they don't/didn't haul in truckloads of sand in Thailand or Indonesia.
Pit Row
I think Anderson, Osborne and *insert 250 rider might be a good combo
Excellent!
I've heard Roger say a couple times that it was not like the red bud they were used to but it was the other teams first time there! The owners of the track said there was only sand added to a few corners..
Also dunno about his claim that the other countries work together to beat the US! They all seem pretty keen to win the event not just beat one particular (slightly paranoid) team
Bottom line, October, lots of rain and trying to prep the track for rain, this is what you end up with. Hats off to Redbud, that track was prepped as good as it gets.
The track prep on the other hand saved the track from becoming an absolutely brutal mudder. Now it was "only" wet dirt. I would assume that a mudder would have been even worse for team USA?
Quite sad Plessinger & Decoster are still playing the "Euro" style track excuse.
The track was always going to ride different because of the time of year, those of us that have raced a long season would have experience the same track ride totally different many times, nothing unusual.
The track owner stated he added sand in case of heavy rain, the sand no doubt helped with absorbing the rain.
The only way this track is euro style is the fact the euro riders ride in heavy conditions more. The US riders could too but they choose not too, so stop making something you choose not to do an excuse.
Build a fucking deep sand track, invite all your friends to ride it & never fucking grade it all year. That's your answer to Assen.
Covington is good already.
Missing one more guy. Maybe Anderson
American racers aren’t dominant in the event as they once were. That’s the bottom line. No excuses will change that. We still have riders capable of landing our team on the podium however. This group was talented enough in my opinion, but the fact is; if any of the top 5 teams or so aren’t at their best, they will find it very difficult to finish in the top 3. That is why I commented that the American team needs to try and find 3 riders who want to be there. Maybe these 3 did very badly, I don’t know. Maybe those 4 teams wanted it more, I don’t know. Maybe those 4 teams are more talented, I don’t know. What I do know is the rest of the world is improving and have some very good riders. Our guys need to have the heart and desire to accept nothing but first and not expect it. That is the mentality of the other nations and I feel it was the mentality of our guys in the past.
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