MUST READ : Todd Waters about Jeffrey Herlings

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4/28/2020 8:56 AM

"In 2018, I was training at Lommel. Jeffrey Herlings was there, and it looked like he was on another planet.

Holes were so big they were as high as my hip when I was standing in them and he was standing on the bike, full commited... there was a corner with 2 big bumps separated by about 20 meters. He was jumping them. I saw a lot of fast riders in my life, but man that was completly mind blowing.

From that moment, I said I'm gonna jump this stuff. I worked the whole day on this corner. I emptied two tanks to try to jump it, but never I was able to put even my front wheel behind the second bump. The thing, his speed was different from the other riders.

Then, I was in Holland a little bit later, hard pack track, basic jumps, nothing difficult really. I think Paulin was there, or one of the top GP riders, Seewer maybe, anyway, I was 1.5 seconds slower than him.

I was feeling good, I was happy. I asked the mecanic "Hey, what are Herlings's lap times here ?"
"He is 10 seconds faster."
I said "yeah, but the track was perfect at that moment ?"
"No, no, he is 10 seconds faster.".

I would not believe it. It's not the type of track you can take 10 seconds. It was flat, tables, good prep, nice ruts, lap times about 1min50.

At the time, I was around 10-12 in MXGP. Usually, in gp's, if you are 3 seconds a lap slower than the leader, you are in the top 5.

Last year, I was in the USA for a couple rounds, and I was around 15th in qualification not far from Cooper Webb, and that day we were about 2 or 3 seconds slower than the top 3 and their fastest laps.

"10 seconds ?" I was eating my lunch, and I was thinking about it the whole time. "10 seconds ? I would like to see that.".

Jeffrey Herlings arrived at the end of the day. Boom, he was 10 seconds faster than me. This man is incredible. We didn't changed, we are not slower, it is just that now there is this type of dudes..."

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4/28/2020 9:00 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/28/2020 9:00 AM

I think I'm gonna nickname him 'the bullet', hes so fast

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4/28/2020 9:14 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/28/2020 9:14 AM

What’s the article? Just to give the magazine some credit

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4/28/2020 9:14 AM

He's lucky Coldenhoff wasn't there, he would have been at least 15 seconds off.

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4/28/2020 9:36 AM

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Two wheels, tacos, and tubes

4/28/2020 9:45 AM

I thought Todd Waters was a native English speaker but based on some of this grammar, I guess not...

....We didn't changed, we are not slower, it is just that now there is this type of dudes...

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4/28/2020 10:19 AM

The thing is in Vital that some of you guys seem to laugh about it. But really, not just because he is dutch, but you will be amazed too when you see him riding in real time. By that I mean during practice days, because that's where I have seen him doing the most incredible things, even more incredible then some of his GP race dominances. All the way from the time he was on a RM85 in 2008 until now, I'm happy to have witnessed him doing stuff that would blow anyones mind.

I have a small story from 2018. It was the Wednesday before his MXGP title crown in Assen. He just came back from that collarbone injury of course and won those 2 races in Indonesia. All the hype was getting real because he was dominating again, and getting closer to the first MXGP title for a dutch guy in years. Therefore Smets contacted us at Axel to let him train that day and to keep him separated from other Amateur riders. So the day was divided in 45 min sessions for Amateurs and 45 min sessions for the pro's (him, Bogers and Mike Kras). Obviously this was way safer then getting Pro's/Amateurs mixed and having those insane speed differences. The speed he showed that day was insane. Bogers was just getting back from that heel injury. Herlings put on 1.43's all day, compared to bogers with 1.48's. Track was absolutely brutal. Then, in his final session he was doing some sprint starts with 5 lap heaters. I was a little blown away because his mechanics were still pushing him even though he had a title to win 4 days later. He eventually dropped his laptimes down to 1.39. Just crazy what that guy can do on a dirtbike

There are some really special talents in the sport right now, like in every era obviously. The pure raw speed Tomac has had during some of his supercross victories (and some of his outdoor performances as well!) are also a great thing to see. Same with guys like Carmichael, Stewart etc etc. But i really get the thing what Waters say, and heard some incredible other stories during the last 10 years of his GP career

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4/28/2020 10:25 AM

I think he should turn pro.

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I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.

4/28/2020 10:33 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/28/2020 10:34 AM



I've found this video on my phone from that day
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4/28/2020 10:39 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/28/2020 10:40 AM

Herlings just has better suspension and ECU.

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4/28/2020 10:44 AM

Cortami79 wrote:


I've found this video on my phone from that day

Fucking hell

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4/28/2020 10:48 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/28/2020 10:49 AM

Every decade produces exceptional talent as described above. In 99 I wrenched on Bubba's FMF superminis. I had a box van and would meet the Stewart family at various events.

One race still stands out - Muddy Creek was the day I realised that this kid was from another planet. I'd like to find the result sheets/timing from that event as I believe he would have flat out beaten everyone on the day.

Now that his career is over I guess it's safe to say that he was too fast for his own good.

MC had SX figured like Everts had the GPs figured but Carmichael will always be the Goat.

We are in a new era now but Herlings boggles my mind and I can relate to what Todd Waters is saying in the OP's post.

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4/28/2020 11:07 AM

Cortami79 wrote:


I've found this video on my phone from that day
Motofinne wrote:

Fucking hell

Fucking FUCKING hell....!!

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4/28/2020 12:24 PM

It's a good thing Tomac wasn't there that day to smoke herlings.

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4/28/2020 12:53 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/28/2020 12:56 PM

The fastest man on the planet. Every now and then someone comes along who is just better than the field (the world) and it's cool and weird and shocking and amazing all at once.

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Are you smart enough to buy a bike that costs less, weighs less, makes more horsepower per cubic centimeter, can be rebuilt for recycled aluminum can money and is giggle inducing? It is hard to believe that the American riding public flunks this test en masse. How stupid are you?

4/28/2020 12:59 PM

Would like to watch the interview but gypsy tales voice sounds like grating chalk🤬

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Now a member of the Orange brigade

4/28/2020 1:30 PM

Tough to find 10 seconds. Real tough.

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4/28/2020 1:38 PM

shuggs wrote:

Would like to watch the interview but gypsy tales voice sounds like grating chalk

POM

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4/28/2020 1:43 PM

Cortami79 wrote:


I've found this video on my phone from that day

Awesome, he’s ringing out that factory 450 on a beat to hell sand track like it’s a 125 on a prepped circuit.

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4/28/2020 1:50 PM

If he’s so good why does he have such a high number? 84 doesn’t seem very good

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

4/28/2020 2:46 PM

Definitely hitting his marks.

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4/28/2020 3:33 PM

But could he win the C class at LL?

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4/28/2020 4:08 PM

shuggs wrote:

Would like to watch the interview but gypsy tales voice sounds like grating chalk

It would be cool if there was a website that would grab the link of a video and replace the voice of someone with someone else's. Automatically.
I listen to many moto podcasts. Sadly, I just cannot bear this voice. It's so out of place with our sport. I can't relate. Almost like an over-dramatized, made-for-tv special raspy filter. Just. Can't. take. it. Sorry.
I listen to American, English, French, Dutch and Australian content. Blue-collars, lumberjacks, farmers, Snotty elites, geniuses, delicate artists, fragile little flowers, Hillbillies and Rednecks... Never been an issue.
But Raspy Chalky no worky for me.
It's sad and I know I am missing on stuff here.
I have myself an accent. This is why I carefully chose someone else in my team to speak for important presentations. Impressions are important. Can't have the voice deter from the message. I feel the message is more important than your personality or "uniqueness".

Fundme campaign to have Producer Joe from Main Main show to dub it? smile

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4/28/2020 4:19 PM

mx_563 wrote:

I thought Todd Waters was a native English speaker but based on some of this grammar, I guess not...

....We didn't changed, ...more

So that what you take away from that article?

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4/28/2020 4:24 PM

He’s without a doubt the fastest man on the planet. I don’t think that can be disputed.

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4/28/2020 4:41 PM

sir scrubadubdub wrote:

It's a good thing Tomac wasn't there that day to smoke herlings.

Yeah Tomac has never beat him right?

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4/28/2020 5:00 PM

Forty wrote:

Tough to find 10 seconds. Real tough.

Yeah it would be tough for me to get within ten seconds of Waters
As for Herlings I’ve seen what everyone is talking about real time as well, the guy is not of this planet.
My favourite rider ever -Stew
The best rider ever - RC
The fastest ever- the Bullet, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded

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4/28/2020 5:21 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

If he’s so good why does he have such a high number? 84 doesn’t seem very good

Lol

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4/28/2020 5:22 PM

Cortami79 wrote:

The thing is in Vital that some of you guys seem to laugh about it. But really, not just because he is dutch, but you will be ...more

He's a beast no doubt – but I think a lot of people who don't seem to care or acknowledge it probably stems from the fact that Kenny had him covered all that time they rode together, and they've seen Kenny at his peak...

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4/28/2020 5:45 PM

Barely anyone ever comments on his bike and how composed and stable it is. Theres some voodoo magic going on inside those forks/shocks.

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