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7/24/2013 9:24am
7/24/2013 9:24am
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7/26/2013 9:01pm
I think he's sick of being questioned because he is winning. Pay for the test, put up some money, and he'll take a blood test.
Is anyone man enough to put their money where their mouth is?
Is anyone man enough to put their money where their mouth is?
That's "some" money right there.
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I forgot what Mitch said about it but it was pretty funny.
Yes, a blood test will be more thorough, but a standard pee test can tell you a lot. Specifically, looking for masking agents.
The best was when they were talking about putting weimer or tickle on them and see what it would do. Mathes says "tickle is about a 5-10 place guy right? Kenny W "haha right! on a good day maybe?" DV was like let them be the test monkeys and see if it does anything haha
Also another point that was made, guys like villo and barcia have always been fast from AM's on? Does that mean they have always been doing it... no...
Another one they talked about when payton was on the line is its not PED's ect that make you faster... Take the tenth place guy and pump him full of the stuff is he suddenly gonna be faster than the Ryan's? No... its a culmination of their talent, skill, practice ect, that makes them that fast.
I remember hearing about the WADA tests, it was very well known but it was brought up a few times they year ryan was on the list. Its kinda like the same low end pros (or computer jockeys) that always point the finger at mitch's bike or FC's bikes and say of they are cheating, big bores, ect. They don't realize how many times those bikes have been torn down at supercross and have passed with flying colors... Just like in this case where Ryan made it through their testing but no one takes that into account and still points fingers... Am I saying no one is cheating? No... there is, and its always gonna be speculation on who is and who isn't. Just because the guy is winning doesn't automatically mean him or the team must be cheating.
I do hope more solid testing comes in though in the next year or so though. If a top guy gets caught then they get caught, if they pass then good on them.
Also, consider that RV won SX races in 2009 and also the Glen Helen national, and he wasn't in nearly the shape he's been in since he got with Aldon Baker. It's obvious that he had "Boy Strength" back in 2009-10 and earned "Man-Strength" in 2011+. I doubt he was doing even close to the same fitness program and discipline his first two years on a 450F and he still won races.
As for Lance, WADA & beating the tests...
Look, I love our racers; but, if you think they've got the same resources that Lance had? Well, then you better start with the Red Bull crew. They've got some drama on this matter based on some trainer(s) that they've got.
Pit Row
The difference between Lance and RV: All of Lance's competitors were failing tests left and right. PED use was rampant in his sport. In Moto, people are just accusing him because he is fast.
The level is so damn high now that I think what sets RV apart from the rest is a unique blend of incredible intuition, creativity and a ruthless aggression no other rider can match. They're just not psychologically wired up the same way, its just an built natural mentality that can't be replicated no matter how hard they work during the week.
I'll might get some shit for this, but I think RV has surpassed even RC's level of riding now, and I was a big Carmichael fan.
Do you know what they test for? Have you taken one?
I've covered MTB racing at the National/World/Olympic level. It was pretty easy to see when people were doing things that they shouldn't be doing, but there always was the element of people pointing fingers without any basis for it, just because a person was winning.
Occasionally, some of the people at the highest levels are, to put it simply, genetic freaks. A bunch of you probably aren't familiar with Ned Overend, but he and John Tomac used to battle back before in the day. I'd described Ned as a pair of lungs with legs attached, and that probably wasn't far from the truth.
Honestly, if I were on the brink of making it big in MX but just couldn't get over the hump fitness-wise, I'd probably cheat (use designer PEDs). What have you got to lose?
Motocross is way different than cycling because the equipment will always go faster than the rider. Fearlessness will make a guy faster before PEDs will, but they would help significantly to recover between motos and weekends.
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