List of AMA Supercross Main Event Wins

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gsxrcr28 3/2/2011 10:44am
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rgmx-49 wrote:
JS couldn't even beat Everts on the Des Nations race....RC smoked Everts!
JS is scary fast but never put him above RC.
You mean the race where he only had to get second to win the MXDN Championship for America when he was 19 yrs old?
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Motodave wrote:
I HOPE TO GOD THEY DO,, IM SICK OF THE GOAT, NO SUCH FUCKING THING,,,The goat of sx is mcgrath,, Rc has 1 more perfect season...
I HOPE TO GOD THEY DO,, IM SICK OF THE GOAT, NO SUCH FUCKING THING,,,The goat of sx is mcgrath,, Rc has 1 more perfect season than stewy, so rc does not deserve the goat thats a bullshit label
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answer me this, when did stewart get a perfect season? whe RC retired and on his last year of racing he beat Stewart straight up in...
answer me this, when did stewart get a perfect season? whe RC retired and on his last year of racing he beat Stewart straight up in all 5 of the races he entered. If he would have kept racing that year he would have easily gotten another MX title.
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While I agree with you, it is a mute point. It's like trying to say that Michael Jordan, when he retired from his second 2-peat ('96...
While I agree with you, it is a mute point.

It's like trying to say that Michael Jordan, when he retired from his second 2-peat ('96 - '98) at the top of his game, that Kobe Bryant (who was in his 2nd season) was greater than MJ. Those careers have been different altogether just like Ricky's and James' has but you can't argue that Kobe is not one of the top 3 players ever.

When all's said and done, I think James will be the #2 rider of all time (wins-wise) and honestly, that's not too shabby. The guy has 84 wins (not counting Sx Lites), which is 5 behind McGrath. But if you took James at '08 motocross perfect season speed, and compared it to Ricky's 2007 speed, I bet Bubba would win but the "what if" game is stupid.

I seriously can't believe you are knocking James' perfect season though. If James only got his because Ricky was retired, did Ricky only get his because there wasn't someone like James? I mean, it is stupid to say that. Carmichael is a bad ass for getting the FIRST 2 EVER PERFECT SEASONS, and James has one also. The feat is obviously difficult if only 2 guys have ever done it in the 40+ years of GP's and AMA races. Think about it.
If you compare them at your suggested year's speeds (('07 and '08) you would have to factor in crashes by Bubba while racing with THE GOAT, it would hamper his win percentage dramatically. I would love to see it anyway, throw in Bell, Howerton, DeCoster, Barnett, etc., etc,. all in their primes on equal equpiment and now you've got a race.
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TannerMxer 3/2/2011 11:04am
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rgmx-49 wrote:
JS couldn't even beat Everts on the Des Nations race....RC smoked Everts!
JS is scary fast but never put him above RC.
When did I put him above Carmichael?
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eb313 3/2/2011 11:04am
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I should have mentioned Bailey, Hannah, Glover, Sun, and many more.....

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`ol Ger 3/2/2011 4:55pm
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RC won 86.51% of all MX outdoor National overalls (big class). That should make your brain hurt.
His win percentage over Stewart in the big boy MX class is 86.9%. That is higher than his career average, so that demonstrates just how unbelievably dominant he was against Stewart.

He won 79.77% of all MX motos.

He had two perfect seasons, and a third perfect season if you count sweeping all 12 Nationals in 2005.


And we were there to see it !!


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sharkey 3/2/2011 5:27pm
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doesnt Rv have 12 wins. 3 this year, 7 last year and 2 the year before(first year seattle and vegas)
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rgmx-49 3/2/2011 6:17pm
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rgmx-49 wrote:
JS couldn't even beat Everts on the Des Nations race....RC smoked Everts!
JS is scary fast but never put him above RC.
TannerMxer wrote:
When did I put him above Carmichael?
wasn't saying tit to u.
'ol Ger good post.
Sharkey - yea RV has 12 sx wins so far.
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mrquick 3/2/2011 6:23pm
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Whoever says R.C. isn't the goat...i would like to punch you in the throat.
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rgmx-49 wrote:
JS couldn't even beat Everts on the Des Nations race....RC smoked Everts!
JS is scary fast but never put him above RC.
EVERTS also lapped RC in the 1998 and 1999 Des Nations... so much for smoking him hey!
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rgmx-49 3/2/2011 6:54pm
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1998 RC was a 125 guy, 1999 he rode 125 also while Everts was in the 250 class dumb shit. Also RC got DNF when he rode with Everts.
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Slayer_1979 1/23/2012 10:23am
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Does anyone have an updated list with Chad Reed winning round 3 of the 2012 AMA Supersoss? I know Stewart was ahead of him just barely by one win I believe. If someone can post a new list I'd appreiate it. Thanks.
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NeWskoolmxer 1/23/2012 10:34am
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`ol Ger wrote:
RC won [b]86.51%[/b] of all MX outdoor National overalls (big class). That should make your brain hurt. His win percentage over Stewart in the big boy...
RC won 86.51% of all MX outdoor National overalls (big class). That should make your brain hurt.
His win percentage over Stewart in the big boy MX class is 86.9%. That is higher than his career average, so that demonstrates just how unbelievably dominant he was against Stewart.

He won 79.77% of all MX motos.

He had two perfect seasons, and a third perfect season if you count sweeping all 12 Nationals in 2005.


And we were there to see it !!


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neverwasfastenuf 1/23/2012 10:39am
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Motodave wrote:
I HOPE TO GOD THEY DO,, IM SICK OF THE GOAT, NO SUCH FUCKING THING,,,The goat of sx is mcgrath,, Rc has 1 more perfect season...
I HOPE TO GOD THEY DO,, IM SICK OF THE GOAT, NO SUCH FUCKING THING,,,The goat of sx is mcgrath,, Rc has 1 more perfect season than stewy, so rc does not deserve the goat thats a bullshit label
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That's funny you say that. RC was labeled the GOAT because he dominated the outdoor nationals with wins and championships, but he won supercross races and...
That's funny you say that. RC was labeled the GOAT because he dominated the outdoor nationals with wins and championships, but he won supercross races and a few championships. Yes, he is a bad dude and the most recent one to win in this fashion, but the nickname GOAT does not carry over into supercross, when another rider has that many more wins than he.

As the AMA win list's read right now:
RC would be the KING of MOTOCROSS
and
McGrath would be the KING of SUPERCROSS

But what's going to happen when someone passes RC win list in motocross or MC win list in supercross or both of them in both series? What nickname will this guy be labeled? KING, GOAT or will there have to be another king of the hill label?

I don't believe any racer or sports figure can be labeled "The Greatest of All Times", until the end of time or at least till the end of the sport and there's no one left to challenge the records.

That's how I feel.
Carmichael has dominated all his career, including his time in the amatuer ranks, and that my includes several years of domination. Just think of all the amatuer phenoms that fizzled, unfortuneately some by injury. Nobody has kicked ass anywhere near the level he has for their full racing career. Even that Villopoto guy couldn't beat Alessi in the amatuers, well according to Tony anyway.Wink
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Slayer_1979 1/23/2012 10:48am
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Ok I've looked for this damn AMA all-time win list for an hour now online and can't seem to find it! Can anyone help me out. Post a link or something? Thanks again Smile
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Slayer_1979 1/23/2012 11:54am
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Nevermind I just found it! Doh. It's crazy to think James Stewart only has 13 more wins then Chad Reed overall with lites and supercross class combined. Only 1 win ahaed of him now In the supercross class with Reed's win at round 3 over the weekend. I would have though James would be much further ahead of him then that. Just goes to show how much of a Badass Chad Reed really is. Wink

http://www.motorsportsetc.com/stats/st_sxwin.htm
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StatutoryApe 1/23/2012 11:57am
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Motodave wrote:
I HOPE TO GOD THEY DO,, IM SICK OF THE GOAT, NO SUCH FUCKING THING,,,The goat of sx is mcgrath,, Rc has 1 more perfect season...
I HOPE TO GOD THEY DO,, IM SICK OF THE GOAT, NO SUCH FUCKING THING,,,The goat of sx is mcgrath,, Rc has 1 more perfect season than stewy, so rc does not deserve the goat thats a bullshit label
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kongols 1/23/2012 12:05pm
1/23/2012 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2012 12:05pm
Jeremy McGRATH 85 72 13
James STEWART 60 42 18
Ricky CARMICHAEL 59 48 11
Chad REED 46 41 6
Kevin WINDHAM 29 18 11
Ricky JOHNSON 28 28
Bob HANNAH 27 27
Ryan VILLOPOTO 26 16 11
Damon BRADSHAW 25 19 6
Jeff WARD 20 20
Ezra LUSK 19 12 7
Mark BARNETT 17 17
Jeff STANTON 17 17
Ryan DUNGEY 17 8 10
Jean-Michel BAYLE 16 16
Jeff EMIG 13 7 6
Damon HUFFMAN 13 1 12
Nathan RAMSEY 13 1 12
David BAILEY 12 12
Jeff MATIASEVICH 12 1 11
Brian SWINK 12 12
Ernesto FONSECA 12 12
Mike LaROCCO 12 9 3
Mike BELL 11 11
David VUILLEMIN 11 7 4
Doug HENRY 11 4 7
Christophe POURCEL 11 11
Broc GLOVER 10 10
Mickael PICHON 10 10
Trey CANARD 10 3 7
Jimmy ELLIS 8 8
Ron LECHIEN 8 8
Davi MILLSAPS 8 3 5
John DOWD 8 1 7
Keith TURPIN 8 8
Denny STEPHENSON 8 8
Ivan TEDESCO 8 8
Jake WEIMER 8 8
Johnny O'MARA 7 7
Mike KIEDROWSKI 7 5 2
Stephane RONCADA 7 7
Josh HANSEN 7 7
Travis PASTRANA 6 6
Grant LANGSTON 6 6
Kent HOWERTON 5 5
Branden JESSEMAN 5 5
Josh GRANT 4 1 3
Jim WEINERT 4 4
Donnie HANSEN 4 4
Darrell SHULTZ 4 4
William SURRATT 4 4
Ron TICHENOR 4 4
Donny SCHMIT 4 4
Jimmy BUTTON 4 4
Mike BROWN 4 4
Ryan HUGHES 4 4
David PINGREE 4 4
Brock SELLARDS 4 4
Tony DiSTEFANO 3 1 2
Marty SMITH 3 3
Larry WARD 3 3
Eddie WARREN 3 3
Larry BROOKS 3 3
Kyle LEWIS 3 3
Todd DeHOOP 3 3
Ty DAVIS 3 3
Buddy ANTUNEZ 3 3
Jeromy BUEHL 3 3
Tallon VOHLAND 3 3
Travis PRESTON 3 3
Andrew SHORT 3 3
Ben TOWNLEY 3 3
Jason LAWRENCE 3 3
Austin STROUPE 3 3
Steve STACKABLE 2 2
Rich EIERSTEDT 2 2
Gaylon MOSIER 2 1 1
Rex STATEN 2 1 1
Marty TRIPES 2 2
Michael CRAIG 2 1 1
Mike HEALY 2 2
Tim FERRY 2 2
Casey JOHNSON 2 2
Derrick Shae BENTLEY 2 2
Greg SCHNELL 2 2
Justin BARCIA 2 2
Broc TICKLE 2 2
Cole SEELY 2 2
Eli TOMAC 2 2
Roger DeCOSTER 1 1
Tim HART 1 1
Monte McCOY 1 1
Gary CHAPLIN 1 1
Pat RICHTER 1 1
Pierre KARSMAKERS 1 1
Jim POMEROY 1 1
Jaroslav FALTA 1 1
Steve WISE 1 1
Chuck SUN 1 1
Rick RYAN 1 1
Doug DUBACH 1 1
Greg ALBERTYN 1 1
Sebastien TORTELLI 1 1
Josh HILL 1 1
Todd CAMPBELL 1 1
Bader MANNEH 1 1
Bobby MOORE 1 1
Tyson VOHLAND 1 1
Jimmy GADDIS 1 1
Phil LAWRENCE 1 1
Chad PEDERSON 1 1
Pedro GONZALEZ 1 1
Jeff WILLOH 1 1
Brian DEEGAN 1 1
Casey LYTLE 1 1
Michael BRANDES 1 1
Justin BUCKELEW 1 1
Matt WALKER 1 1
Broc HEPLER 1 1
Billy LANINOVICH 1 1
Blake WHARTON 1 1
Blake BAGGETT 1 1
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kongols 1/23/2012 12:06pm
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That`s wins total, SX wins and Lites wins.

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Slayer_1979 1/23/2012 12:54pm
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Hey Kongols. Thanks for posting the list. It took me forever to find it. I know it's total wins SX & Lites, which makes it more impressive to me that James is not further ahead of Reed. It's only 1 win in the Supercross class difference. I'm a Reed fan and respect James for his talent but stat wise Reed is Almost as good as James it looks like in SX. I think they are both tied with 2 SX titles a piece right. I just always hear people say how much better James is then Reed. Statistically wise Not So Much is all I'm trying to say. Just my opinion that's all. To each their own.
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kongols 1/23/2012 12:56pm
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Slayer_1979 wrote:
Hey Kongols. Thanks for posting the list. It took me forever to find it. I know it's total wins SX & Lites, which makes it more...
Hey Kongols. Thanks for posting the list. It took me forever to find it. I know it's total wins SX & Lites, which makes it more impressive to me that James is not further ahead of Reed. It's only 1 win in the Supercross class difference. I'm a Reed fan and respect James for his talent but stat wise Reed is Almost as good as James it looks like in SX. I think they are both tied with 2 SX titles a piece right. I just always hear people say how much better James is then Reed. Statistically wise Not So Much is all I'm trying to say. Just my opinion that's all. To each their own.
Reed had few more seasons in big bike class.

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