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Who makes the best and lightest sand tire ? The front need s to stick to a hard base under the sand. Like Millville.For a 125...
Who makes the best and lightest sand tire ? The front need s to stick to a hard base under the sand. Like Millville.For a 125 of course.
Rickyisms wrote:
I’m not sure about weight but it’s hard to go wrong with a Pirelli scoop rear for sand.
Yeah the scoop tire is nuts for straight line deep sand hook up. But I need a sand tire for a hard base under the sand...
Yeah the scoop tire is nuts for straight line deep sand hook up. But I need a sand tire for a hard base under the sand. I want the front to stick like glue. The rear is not as important but still is.
If you are digging through sand to a harder base I would try the Pirelli mid-soft. I think it throws sand the best of the non-sand tires. The Dunlop MX12 might work in that case too, but I think a mid-soft will work better any time you are not in deep sand. If there is a hard base there are probably parts of the track that are not deep sand or very little sand at all.
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spimx wrote:
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the...
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the Hoosier C100s which I never tried.

Can anyone say what the deal is with Maxxis since working with the king?
What brands have updated their tires? Maxxis or Pirelli?
I am looking for lightweight tires. My favorite setup is Hoosier IMX25 front 30 rear, second place is Pirelli and then Starcross is third. I haven't tried Dunlop in a while, do they still chunk the knobs off? Pirelli's also chunk the knobs off but they feel a lot lighter on the bike. Hoosiers don't chunk the knobs at all so far and I had a lot of them, they do wear really fast but I always flip the rear and It's like a new tire again.

Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also have a new front 07114 MX25F, MX30F 80/100-21, It is narrower and a touch shorter than the 07113 (MX25S, MX30S) which is also still available and being produced.
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spimx wrote:
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the...
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the Hoosier C100s which I never tried.

Can anyone say what the deal is with Maxxis since working with the king?
What brands have updated their tires? Maxxis or Pirelli?
I am looking for lightweight tires. My favorite setup is Hoosier IMX25 front 30 rear, second place is Pirelli and then Starcross is third. I haven't tried Dunlop in a while, do they still chunk the knobs off? Pirelli's also chunk the knobs off but they feel a lot lighter on the bike. Hoosiers don't chunk the knobs at all so far and I had a lot of them, they do wear really fast but I always flip the rear and It's like a new tire again.

dust1905 wrote:
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also...
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also have a new front 07114 MX25F, MX30F 80/100-21, It is narrower and a touch shorter than the 07113 (MX25S, MX30S) which is also still available and being produced.
They have two part numbers for the 110/90-19 now too. One is on clearance. Do you know what the difference is? Also the new front tire says new tread pattern. Do you have any pics?
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2/28/2022 11:35am
spimx wrote:
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the...
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the Hoosier C100s which I never tried.

Can anyone say what the deal is with Maxxis since working with the king?
What brands have updated their tires? Maxxis or Pirelli?
I am looking for lightweight tires. My favorite setup is Hoosier IMX25 front 30 rear, second place is Pirelli and then Starcross is third. I haven't tried Dunlop in a while, do they still chunk the knobs off? Pirelli's also chunk the knobs off but they feel a lot lighter on the bike. Hoosiers don't chunk the knobs at all so far and I had a lot of them, they do wear really fast but I always flip the rear and It's like a new tire again.

dust1905 wrote:
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also...
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also have a new front 07114 MX25F, MX30F 80/100-21, It is narrower and a touch shorter than the 07113 (MX25S, MX30S) which is also still available and being produced.
wrc777 wrote:
They have two part numbers for the 110/90-19 now too. One is on clearance. Do you know what the difference is? Also the new front tire...
They have two part numbers for the 110/90-19 now too. One is on clearance. Do you know what the difference is? Also the new front tire says new tread pattern. Do you have any pics?
OG for the 110/90-19 was 07190 (different mold), then it went to 07191, 07192, 07193 is current. Difference from 07192 to 07193 is added stiffness.
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Dang I want to try a set of Hoosiers but they're pricey.
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We have been using the Metzler MC360's and in all honestly they seem to work pretty well, can also speak for the MX33's gripping good on hard pack as well as softer clay/sand. Just my .02.
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spimx wrote:
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the...
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the Hoosier C100s which I never tried.

Can anyone say what the deal is with Maxxis since working with the king?
What brands have updated their tires? Maxxis or Pirelli?
I am looking for lightweight tires. My favorite setup is Hoosier IMX25 front 30 rear, second place is Pirelli and then Starcross is third. I haven't tried Dunlop in a while, do they still chunk the knobs off? Pirelli's also chunk the knobs off but they feel a lot lighter on the bike. Hoosiers don't chunk the knobs at all so far and I had a lot of them, they do wear really fast but I always flip the rear and It's like a new tire again.

dust1905 wrote:
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also...
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also have a new front 07114 MX25F, MX30F 80/100-21, It is narrower and a touch shorter than the 07113 (MX25S, MX30S) which is also still available and being produced.
Where, I usually use smiley's team racing
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spimx wrote:
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the...
Has anyone tried the tusk tires? I still love Hoosier IMX 25/30 but they are getting hard to get and all I can find is the Hoosier C100s which I never tried.

Can anyone say what the deal is with Maxxis since working with the king?
What brands have updated their tires? Maxxis or Pirelli?
I am looking for lightweight tires. My favorite setup is Hoosier IMX25 front 30 rear, second place is Pirelli and then Starcross is third. I haven't tried Dunlop in a while, do they still chunk the knobs off? Pirelli's also chunk the knobs off but they feel a lot lighter on the bike. Hoosiers don't chunk the knobs at all so far and I had a lot of them, they do wear really fast but I always flip the rear and It's like a new tire again.

dust1905 wrote:
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also...
Inventory is really good right now on 25's and 30's. Newest Gen part #'s 07193 (IMX20, IMX25, IMX30), 110/90-19. 07203 (IMX20 IMX25, IMX30) 120/80-19. They also have a new front 07114 MX25F, MX30F 80/100-21, It is narrower and a touch shorter than the 07113 (MX25S, MX30S) which is also still available and being produced.
spimx wrote:
Where, I usually use smiley's team racing
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Hi Side wrote:
Dang I want to try a set of Hoosiers but they're pricey.
Only 10$ more than a dunlop or Pirelli?
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Hi Side wrote:
Dang I want to try a set of Hoosiers but they're pricey.
wydopen wrote:
Only 10$ more than a dunlop or Pirelli?
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and an additional $23 shipping for a total of $138.00.
2/28/2022 5:09pm
Rickyisms wrote:
I’m not sure about weight but it’s hard to go wrong with a Pirelli scoop rear for sand.
Yeah the scoop tire is nuts for straight line deep sand hook up. But I need a sand tire for a hard base under the sand...
Yeah the scoop tire is nuts for straight line deep sand hook up. But I need a sand tire for a hard base under the sand. I want the front to stick like glue. The rear is not as important but still is.
wrc777 wrote:
If you are digging through sand to a harder base I would try the Pirelli mid-soft. I think it throws sand the best of the non-sand...
If you are digging through sand to a harder base I would try the Pirelli mid-soft. I think it throws sand the best of the non-sand tires. The Dunlop MX12 might work in that case too, but I think a mid-soft will work better any time you are not in deep sand. If there is a hard base there are probably parts of the track that are not deep sand or very little sand at all.
Thx the Pirelli mid soft sounds like a Great tire for Millville, it’s a hard base under neath.
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2/28/2022 7:38pm
Im a MX3S guy currently but maxxis has been catching my eye a bit lately since my hero runs them
Where are people finding these tires?

I can't find MX3S anywhere and I really want to try them.
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Im a MX3S guy currently but maxxis has been catching my eye a bit lately since my hero runs them
Where are people finding these tires?

I can't find MX3S anywhere and I really want to try them.
*i think* They come stock on kx450 so you can order through oem part number
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Im a MX3S guy currently but maxxis has been catching my eye a bit lately since my hero runs them
Where are people finding these tires?

I can't find MX3S anywhere and I really want to try them.
Chapmoto has the fronts cheaper than the kawasaki parts list. I think any Dunlop dealer can get them. The rears you can get from the kawasaki parts list from the kx250 and kx450. You can only get the oem 100 and 120 though, and I bet they are expensive. They might be on the Honda parts list too. I see Dunlop tires listed on the 2019 crf250r, and I know it had mx3s standard. I think the 450 did too. They are on the 2019 Yz250fx list too and it says mx3s. The rear is a 110/100/18.
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Actually out of curiosity for the topic, what is the go to pirelli intermediate tire?
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crowe660 wrote:
Mx32 mid soft
What about the mx32 mid hard?
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Hi Side wrote:
Dang I want to try a set of Hoosiers but they're pricey.
wydopen wrote:
Only 10$ more than a dunlop or Pirelli?
Hi Side wrote:
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and...
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and an additional $23 shipping for a total of $138.00.
Made in America, with american labor in this economy. Their primary focus is on performance other than producing a rec tire.
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wydopen wrote:
Only 10$ more than a dunlop or Pirelli?
Hi Side wrote:
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and...
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and an additional $23 shipping for a total of $138.00.
dust1905 wrote:
Made in America, with american labor in this economy. Their primary focus is on performance other than producing a rec tire.
Also if you give them a call and talk to them they will help out on price typically. Tim gerhardt is the guy running the moto side at hoosier tire west. Good people there and have been ordering my tires from him since they came out. I'm getting ready to order 2 or 3 sets this week if anyone wants to get in and see if we can get a group buying price.
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207$ for a set front and rear on Hoosier IMX 30 c100 is a great deal. I just wonder if the tire is as good as the regular IMX30. Has anyone tried the c100 Hoosiers
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Hi Side wrote:
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and...
Way more than $10...$54.31 to be exact. RM ATV/MC 80/100x21 Dunlop MX33 is $83.69 with free shipping. Hoosier Tire West 80/100x21 Hoosier MX25 is $115 and an additional $23 shipping for a total of $138.00.
dust1905 wrote:
Made in America, with american labor in this economy. Their primary focus is on performance other than producing a rec tire.
moto162 wrote:
Also if you give them a call and talk to them they will help out on price typically. Tim gerhardt is the guy running the moto...
Also if you give them a call and talk to them they will help out on price typically. Tim gerhardt is the guy running the moto side at hoosier tire west. Good people there and have been ordering my tires from him since they came out. I'm getting ready to order 2 or 3 sets this week if anyone wants to get in and see if we can get a group buying price.
I need a set.
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spimx wrote:
207$ for a set front and rear on Hoosier IMX 30 c100 is a great deal. I just wonder if the tire is as good as...
207$ for a set front and rear on Hoosier IMX 30 c100 is a great deal. I just wonder if the tire is as good as the regular IMX30. Has anyone tried the c100 Hoosiers
Yes the time before last I didn’t realize they were the c100’s. Supposedly stiffer carcass.. I adjust psi +\- 1-2psi depending on track conditions and I was in the same range as with the original ones. Same amount of grip. I switched from a 2stroke to a 350 and the rears arnt lasting as long but that’s probably because of extra torque. Wasn’t getting knobs cracking on the 2stroke but I’m getting 3 races and a couple practices out of my rears now before I start tearing knobs off. My current rear went pretty quick but I raced on a track that got hardpack second moto which definitely kills them quick.
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The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try the Michelins. Soft front medium rear for me
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27thmx wrote:
The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try...
The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try the Michelins. Soft front medium rear for me
Feels like you wrote this just to say your a AA rider
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27thmx wrote:
The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try...
The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try the Michelins. Soft front medium rear for me
soggy wrote:
Feels like you wrote this just to say your a AA rider
Well as an engineer AA rider Amsoil dealer who's brother owns a TM dealership I… uh… that’s all.
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27thmx wrote:
The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try...
The Michelins are superior to the dunlops in every way. I threw my 33s in the trash can. AA rider btw if that means anything. Try the Michelins. Soft front medium rear for me
soggy wrote:
Feels like you wrote this just to say your a AA rider
Broseph wrote:
Well as an engineer AA rider Amsoil dealer who's brother owns a TM dealership I… uh… that’s all.
I see no errors in this post.
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I still have a grudge against Dunlop for dropping the 756 and let’s face it, Randy Richardson is pretty damn awesome. 😁
I had like 5 of those and I was pissed when I used the last one.

That being said the M59 front is the best front I've found for an all around tire. I'd love to branch out but tires are expensive. Lots of love for Starcross 5's in this thread. Any reviews of the Starcross 6?
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5/25/2022 8:42pm
I still have a grudge against Dunlop for dropping the 756 and let’s face it, Randy Richardson is pretty damn awesome. 😁
Hcallz5 wrote:
I had like 5 of those and I was pissed when I used the last one. That being said the M59 front is the best front...
I had like 5 of those and I was pissed when I used the last one.

That being said the M59 front is the best front I've found for an all around tire. I'd love to branch out but tires are expensive. Lots of love for Starcross 5's in this thread. Any reviews of the Starcross 6?
I hv 2 756,s on this 2 hr bike. Another new never mounted 756. Dunlop 773 front and rear never mounted.
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6/1/2022 8:41pm
I still have a grudge against Dunlop for dropping the 756 and let’s face it, Randy Richardson is pretty damn awesome. 😁
I grabbed some tires from my Dad’s farm yesterday. I had them up stairs in the horse barn it’s connected to the barn. Couple 756, 737, front 490, 756f from my original 04. Quite a few up there yet more 756,s, Bridgestone m57,59,etc. and

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