Lend me your thoughts - My 2021 Tech 10’s

Timo
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3/6/2021 9:53am
The only thing I'm getting from this thread is that people keep track of the hours on their boots. Does the hour meter start as soon as the boots go on your feet, or only when on your bike? What about when you get on a friend's bike? I barley keep track of the hours on my bike, definitely not keeping track of boot time.
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hubbardmx50
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3/6/2021 10:33am
Dang that sucks, I have the same boots in red. Now I’m worried. I’ve been running tech 10’s since 2012 and they have changed so much. Regardless of what people say I absolutely love the 21 boots. So much better than the previous gen boot. Lighter, comfy, buckles are butter and the new hinge system where the last boot would split is a much better design. i would replace the soles and keep using them. Soles don’t last forever regardless of the boot brand. I’ve seen SG12’s completely hammered from stock pegs.
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3/6/2021 10:48am
I think I see the problem. Just looked at my 2016 boots and and compared them to my current ones. The soles on the 21 boots are way thinnerSad
3/6/2021 11:15am
About 25 hours trail riding. Why does the left boot wear out way faster then the right boot? [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/03/06/481761/s1200_397ED5B2_A3BD_4C2A_9849_3DFA5C1EB163.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/03/06/481760/s1200_AD192925_B3BC_411B_AF7A_9061910452F0.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/03/06/481759/s1200_21E43EA5_A484_455D_B003_1F46B1F53B79.jpg[/img]
About 25 hours trail riding. Why does the left boot wear out way faster then the right boot?




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3/6/2021 11:36am
Because Tech 10s use a bonded sole, they cannot use the same type of rubber that a welt sole uses. (I think it is a variation of urethane).

Bonded soles are cheaper to produce. They do not last as long though.

They have been tweaking the compound since the boot was released. They still do not wear as well, as evidenced by this thread.

Attributing it to foot position is....interesting.

I hold out hope for a hinged Tech 8 some day. Without a stupid bootie, FWIW.

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3/7/2021 12:04am
My 2c's

Astars are well known for soles not lasting however they are known (Tech 10) for very good ankle support. Crash safety is high.

It is not so easy to resole the tech 10's with their replacement soles. I have tried does not come out as good as when it gets done at the factory.

If you look at Jeremy McGraths boots he has a perfect wear pattern on the souls of his boots. From Arch to Ball. Who here rides like Jeremy ?

Funny story I ride on one leg. I only wear out one sole of my T10's. I favour the one leg. Doc says it is from getting in and out of cars wrong. Pulled a ligament. You are supposed to turn with your back to the seat then sit down then swivel both legs into the vehicle. Putting one leg in first then sitting down then swiveling the other leg in is what caused my issue. Looking at Leatte , tried them on I am size 10 but size 12 fits.

I would love to ride like McGrath but that ship has sailed long time ago and will never come past.

I also trimmed my booties to make them as comfortable as possible. I wear thin socks. Besides the sole the T10 have lasted me well - Replaced some buckles. Done the soles. Still a very good boot in terms of safety equipment one of the best if not the best. I know a lot of riders that have gone to Gaerne after being with A Stars.

Sponsored riders get a new pair of boots about once a week - How else do they keep them so white ...
3/7/2021 1:29am
Before Tech 10s came out I had Tech 8s. I had the soles done 3 times on them. I switched to SG-10s, and ran them for years. The rest of the boot literally fell apart and the soles were still in great shape. I have SG-12s now and they're holding up great as well.
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3/7/2021 8:22am
Keep the A-stars if you like the fit then have soles put on that will last. When used them in 06 for the first time they told me they will not put an A-Star sole back on a A-Star boot.

Just like the OP I wore out a brand new set of 10 soles in about 8-10 rides.
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3/7/2021 8:52am
I've seen this and other treads with this same complaint, and the same wide ranging experiences.

I believe the OP and those replying are doing so in good faith.

I think the underlying cause may be something that hasn't been mentioned yet to my knowledge.

Could the chemicals and products some use to clean their boots be making the materials weaker or more brittle?

Maybe even the chemicals and products we use in the shop or on the bike are making their way onto the boots.

Are certain plastic and rubber compounds more resistant to these chemicals and products?

I had a similar experience using aerosol foaming window cleaner causing cracks on lexan goggle lenses and race car windows.

Certain tire companies advise against using any petroleum based products, like some tire shines, on their tires for this reason.

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4/13/2021 3:43pm
Dropped my boots off at Alpinestars yesterday to be repaired. Torn the sole up so bad on my shifting side that it’s down to the base of the boot after three months of riding. I talked to them while I was there and asked if there was an updated sole they would replace it with so it didn’t happen again. All they said was that they lightened up the boot so the sole is thinner. Really disappointing. I’ve ran nothing but Astars over my 21 years of riding. I absolutely love these new tech 10’s but might be selling them at some point.

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20hrs riding only Motocross
165-170lbs on KTM 250sx with stock foot pegs

Boots basically brand new with some wear from kickstarter... ride mostly on toes and the boots definitely saved me the other week with a hard landing only spraining my ankle
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StevenMX wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/04/13/487643/s1200_image_16897025.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/04/13/487642/s1200_image_55415491.jpg[/img] 20hrs riding only Motocross 165-170lbs on KTM 250sx with stock foot pegs Boots basically brand new with some wear from kickstarter... ride mostly on...



20hrs riding only Motocross
165-170lbs on KTM 250sx with stock foot pegs

Boots basically brand new with some wear from kickstarter... ride mostly on toes and the boots definitely saved me the other week with a hard landing only spraining my ankle
Wow, wish mine looked like that. They’re great boots other than the soles.
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4/13/2021 4:16pm
Wow, wish mine looked like that. They’re great boots other than the soles.
Are you running stock pegs?
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4/13/2021 4:19pm
Wow, wish mine looked like that. They’re great boots other than the soles.
Spooner wrote:
Are you running stock pegs?
No. Running Fastway pegs with the replaceable cleats. I’m thinking I should probably call them and ask if there’s something else that won’t chew my boots up so bad.
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No. Running Fastway pegs with the replaceable cleats. I’m thinking I should probably call them and ask if there’s something else that won’t chew my boots...
No. Running Fastway pegs with the replaceable cleats. I’m thinking I should probably call them and ask if there’s something else that won’t chew my boots up so bad.
Yeah I have at least 100 hours on this set and run these pegs but they aren’t super sharp. I recently got a fresh set but only have like 6 hours on them and you basically can’t tell I’ve worn them yet. I know they updated the soles so I’m interested to see how the new version holds up for me.



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I expected to see soles worn out in the arches. I don’t think I have ever seen someone post a picture of the sole worn through at the balls of your feet.

I only wear my tech 10s on the track. I am seeing some decent wear on the inside wear pads at the ankle and calf. For trails I have a pair of Sidis with a welt sole.
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Had the same issue back 10-12 years ago and never bought another pair since. Did buy one pair of tech 8’s since and they held up fine. But other than that it’s been sg12’s and sidi’s for me
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murph783 wrote:
Had the same issue back 10-12 years ago and never bought another pair since. Did buy one pair of tech 8’s since and they held up...
Had the same issue back 10-12 years ago and never bought another pair since. Did buy one pair of tech 8’s since and they held up fine. But other than that it’s been sg12’s and sidi’s for me
Seems like welt soles are stronger which makes sense given they are twice as thick as the molded on ones. Sidi has had issues with their molded on soles separating from the boot. Fox gives a free sole replacement with Instincts now.
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4/14/2021 12:26pm
wrc777 wrote:
I expected to see soles worn out in the arches. I don’t think I have ever seen someone post a picture of the sole worn through...
I expected to see soles worn out in the arches. I don’t think I have ever seen someone post a picture of the sole worn through at the balls of your feet.

I only wear my tech 10s on the track. I am seeing some decent wear on the inside wear pads at the ankle and calf. For trails I have a pair of Sidis with a welt sole.
Lol, I’m proud of myself for riding on the balls of my feet but I’m super pissed at Alpinestars. Might be putting these on eBay when I get them back.

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