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If your main focus is keeping an object from piercing the shell, the Arai is a good way to go, it’s stiff...very stiff...if you’re actually worried about the condition of your brain, my personal opinion is there are many other options in the market that’ll keep that part much safer.
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At the end of the day, the helmet diverted a substantial amount of energy away from rider through crumpling/breaking. This is not always the best way to keep the rider safe, but there are certain situations where this is preferable to the helmet staying together. I'm not saying that he would have been better off if the helmet were designed differently and didn't break apart, as I did not see the incident nor good photos of the areas of the helmet that broke. However, you can't look at the broken helmet and definitively say that he was better off in a helmet that wouldn't have snapped under the same circumstances.
Note: No two crashes are the same. Even though eye-witnesses state that it was a fairly low-speed crash, many of us know that sometimes those crashes cause more damage than you would expect. I would consider the rider very lucky to be leaving the facility with full consciousness (enough to post a selfie after the fact). Hoping for a speedy recovery for the rider and, if he were using their 2nd tier helmet, he opts for the top of the line model from here on out because he clearly has the talent to warrant it.
Theres no argument to purchase a $150 DOT helmet over one of those if money is not a factor. Anyone can see that.
Unluckily for your argument... They crashed a 1959 Bel air into a 2009 Malibu to show the effects of 50 years of engineering. The new car is actually smaller than the old car so your argument that new cars are safer because theyre bigger you can throw right out the window. Its not safer “because it got bigger” its safer because of engineering. The older Bel Air gets absolutely demolished. The dummy in the drivers seat is decapitated. The Malibu is a smaller car but it cuts thru the Bel Air like a hot knife thru Catanzarro butter.
https://youtu.be/fPF4fBGNK0U
1959 Bel Air
2009 Malibu
The test... Will the older car win because its bigger?
Boom
Not lookin good
Look at the difference in damage to the passenger compartment. You cant even see the dummy.. The left headlight is past the firewall *Dead
*Not Dead (Just Chillin)
I almost feel kinda bad lol cuz usually ppl are safe to talk out their ass on the internet and it usually ends with someone being wrong but both at least can feel like they were right in their head. I dont think he could have ever expected that when he said new cars are safer cuz theyre bigger that his argument was going to be so systematically and thoroughly dismantled like this.
Sorry bro
“In physics and chemistry, the law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time.[1] This law means that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another.”
I dont expect many on Vital to have the best grasp of physics, but let us that do explain why this was in fact, a good thing that the energy was transferred through the structure of the helmet... vs his skull/brain. The poster I quoted is exactly right in that no 2 crashes are the same and also what something looks like doesnt mean how it is. Dale Earnhardts crash that killed him did not look more severe than dozens of other crashes weve seen. His injuries tell another story. Same with Jessy Nelson.
I’d love to give the aforementioned doctor an open face helmet. Tell him to go into his parking lot, get on his knees and simulate a low speed face plant by just falling forward.....See how much he likes a skid lid with no chin bar then....
Without video of the crash it’s hard to determine what type of impact the rider had and how the helmet reacted.
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Your such an ass-clown...
My point was that a helmet DOESN'T have to be EXPENSIVE to be among the best...
Case in point and here's YOUR CROW, fool (as worn by Troy, himself):
Mx helmets are designed to be unserviceable after a big crash, thats because the foam is not enough to absorb all of the impact energy and the structure itself has to give, destroying the structure of the helmet instead of your brain. Sometimes you cant even tell that the helmet is destroyed, but helmets will crush and crumple to transfer the energy from impact/momentum into destruction of material.
Your cool carbon fiber helmet is pricy because it’s lighter and used more expensive materials, and takes more time to make, but it doesn’t necessarily make it safer. I would also bet that the same TLD helmet that is made in carbon/Kevlar and also in a “plastic” (which it’s actually more involved than that) that both helmets will have similar crash testing results.
They actually want the carbon fiber to act pretty much the same as those other materials... they all meet the same standards. The benefit is that it allows them to make very thin shells saving weight making a very light helmet (Airoh, Carbon Kevlar). The point of helmets of this material is they can be lighter (thinner) while meeting the same safety rating of other helmets of other materials. It doesnt make the other helmets bad, it makes the Airoh light.
They are crazy light, mines only 2 pounds. Bell, 6D are almost 3.5. All tracks say you need a DOT helmet, some may allow snell and some ECE, I think I heard theres a site in the US you can order Airoh helmets from that have the DOT sticker. Some people have bought a DOT sticker and put it on lol knowing that it passed ECE and its a great helmet and its really just semantics at that point.. Idk if Id recommend this because if you get injured insurance may not pay if they found out. Idk though cuz they are homologated for AMA so its a slippery slope.
Id say if the track says DOT only thats your best bet but insurance may still cover ECE because it tests beyond DOT and AMA has recognized it so if someone crashes in SX/MX theyll be fine. I do know that I want the strictest standard on my head so Ill gladly wear an ECE helmet. They really need to get that peperwork in order but I wonder if its a back room handshake agreement to keep ECE helmets overseas to not bite into US company sales of DOT helmets. ECE is stricter standards because it has to cover all Euro countries where DOT is just the US.
DOT is an American standard. Unlike the other certifications, DOT helmets aren't actually tested. It is up to the manufacturer to ensure their helmets are built to regulation and will survive crashes. Random checks are sometimes done and if the helmet fails, very heavy fines are imposed. ECE helmets are required to be tested and certified before the model is allowed to be sold.
This means at very high risk to the manufacturer, they can try to get around the rules and not test the helmet before putting it up for sale on the market. This leaves the MFG open for MASSIVE lawsuits... but it is possible that a Brand could skirt around this to save time/money. This is another reason why ECE and the British Sharp Certified Helmets are considered the best in the world.
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