Lawrence a no show for training?

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Leichen never showed up either.

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In the on-again, off-again training saga between Ryan Hughes and Jason Lawrence, Ryno called today to let us know that they have officially parted ways. “It’s hard to train someone when they don’t show up,” Hughes told us.

I assume he meant Lawrence, and not both of them?

Some food for thought: After the first three SXs in 2008, Ryan Dungey was leading the Western Region with 72 points and eventual champion Jason Lawrence was 34 points back in fifth. In 2009 Dungey is again leading with 70 points, while Lawrence sits seventh with a 36-point deficit.
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Imagine that.
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All I'll say here is that : "to have a program,
a real program, it all has to flow & all has to work.
Each & everyone needs to do their part 150%, or
regardless of appearances it's all in vein!"
Dave O.Wink
"you can take that 2 the bank".............Wink

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No way, i don't believe it!
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You can't really put out more than 100% though.
That's a different subject.

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Ryno, with all due respect, is not a trainer. He has some sound advice and some neat movements, and a kickass facility for riding, but again, he doesn't have the background for training. Just because he was in shape while he raced doesn't mean he can adjust a program around someone's needs to get them to where they want to be.

Also, I didn't see any testing equipment to monitor V02max, lactate levels, blood glucagon, etc.

Further, his nutrition advice can't be taken that seriously as he doesn't have an RD, CSCS, or a dietetics degree.
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I just want to see Lawrence and Dungey battle and then both of them on the podium together - Cmon Jason, get it together!
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Racer92 wrote:
[img]http://media1.clipaday.com/embed/m_videos/thumbs/britney_alone_88u3.jpg[/img] LEAVE JLAW ALONE !


LEAVE JLAW ALONE !
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Ozzy wrote:
All I'll say here is that : "to have a program, a real program, it all has to flow & all has to work. Each &...
All I'll say here is that : "to have a program,
a real program, it all has to flow & all has to work.
Each & everyone needs to do their part 150%, or
regardless of appearances it's all in vein!"
Dave O.Wink
"you can take that 2 the bank".............Wink

Hey Ozzy,

Since you're the one to bring him over to YOT, and he seemed to respect you a bunch, have you talked to him at all at the races?

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JYZ566 wrote:
Ryno, with all due respect, is not a trainer. He has some sound advice and some neat movements, and a kickass facility for riding, but again...
Ryno, with all due respect, is not a trainer. He has some sound advice and some neat movements, and a kickass facility for riding, but again, he doesn't have the background for training. Just because he was in shape while he raced doesn't mean he can adjust a program around someone's needs to get them to where they want to be.

Also, I didn't see any testing equipment to monitor V02max, lactate levels, blood glucagon, etc.

Further, his nutrition advice can't be taken that seriously as he doesn't have an RD, CSCS, or a dietetics degree.
Neither does any meathead in a gym, but every meathead will know what to take, how mujch to take, and how to bulk up and shred up.

Get that from the family doctor that couldnt cure a ham, let alone anything else.
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JYZ566 wrote:
Ryno, with all due respect, is not a trainer. He has some sound advice and some neat movements, and a kickass facility for riding, but again...
Ryno, with all due respect, is not a trainer. He has some sound advice and some neat movements, and a kickass facility for riding, but again, he doesn't have the background for training. Just because he was in shape while he raced doesn't mean he can adjust a program around someone's needs to get them to where they want to be.

Also, I didn't see any testing equipment to monitor V02max, lactate levels, blood glucagon, etc.

Further, his nutrition advice can't be taken that seriously as he doesn't have an RD, CSCS, or a dietetics degree.
Sledneck wrote:
Neither does any meathead in a gym, but every meathead will know what to take, how mujch to take, and how to bulk up and shred...
Neither does any meathead in a gym, but every meathead will know what to take, how mujch to take, and how to bulk up and shred up.

Get that from the family doctor that couldnt cure a ham, let alone anything else.
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I heard he's working with Emig due to his vast knowledge on the heart rate.
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Quote "MXTR"....:
"Since you're the one to bring him over to YOT, and he seemed to respect you a bunch, have you talked to him at all at the races?"

That's true I took that risk. I would do it again too. We seemed to hit it off well.
I liked him & I think it was mutual. I knew somewhat what I was getting into,
but he's just so damn talented, & ALL know that & can see it. I've also known his
agent for 25 plus yrs. & we're friendly still. Sure, I try to find him & say hello. Even
at this recent A2 race, I was chatting to "Frenchy" my former co-worker at the
Yamaha rig, & Jason found me, so yeah, we're still friendly. Funny, sure I don't like
what I see & hear, & many always try to get me to talk smack on or about him, but
I won't. I hired him as a capable racer 1st. I still believe in him. Others do to.
Sure it's a tough that's a given, but on the bike he's awesome.
To me, he's also always been nice, so that's what I'm going with!
Still, I wish him well.
Dave O.Wink
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GIwasB4 wrote:
Leichen never showed up either. Racerhead #4 Presented by Honda [b]In the on-again, off-again training saga between Ryan Hughes and Jason Lawrence, Ryno called today to...
Leichen never showed up either.

Racerhead #4
Presented by Honda

In the on-again, off-again training saga between Ryan Hughes and Jason Lawrence, Ryno called today to let us know that they have officially parted ways. “It’s hard to train someone when they don’t show up,” Hughes told us.

I assume he meant Lawrence, and not both of them?

Some food for thought: After the first three SXs in 2008, Ryan Dungey was leading the Western Region with 72 points and eventual champion Jason Lawrence was 34 points back in fifth. In 2009 Dungey is again leading with 70 points, while Lawrence sits seventh with a 36-point deficit.
i heard "jlaw" was over training and that is why he has been tanking it so he retired from training for a race or two
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In response to Ryno not having metabolic testing equipment, it is a much better option for an experienced exercise physiologist to administer the testing mentioned and then give the information to the trainer.
I'm fairly sure that no one on this forum actually knows what Ryno or Jason has discussed pertaining to Jason's program.
Ryno has always been known for his toughness on and off the bike and I am sure he is learning everyday as we all are.
Jason has always ridden his bike for training and will have to find a middle ground for his supplemental training.
All of this will take time and experience.
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supplemental training

Yes this seems to be an issue
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JYZ566 wrote... "and some neat movements" um..... ok.......
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500guy wrote:
supplemental training

Yes this seems to be an issue
This gave me a good laugh!

JLaw isn't the first person to leave Ryno and probably won't be the last. Different riders are motivated differently by different people. Perhaps Jason and Hughes just weren't meshing well anymore. Maybe JLaw lost focus and motivation like he did during the nationals last summer, or maybe he just feels he can do it differently, his own way, ect. We don't know, and you know what they say about assuming.

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