Kx450 or crf450r

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10/28/2018 5:33 PM

Looking to buy a 450 torn between the two. So I'm curious to hear your feed back

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10/28/2018 5:44 PM

I currently own an 18 CRF450R. I road a 19 kx. My CR is for sale after one ride. And I’ve talked to Chris Keefer to make sure I wasn’t just loosing my mind. I would ride both. I bet it will be an easy decision

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10/28/2018 6:59 PM

I will be bias, CRF hands down....and dont listen to the above comment, compare a 19 to 19 not a 18 to a 19

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

10/28/2018 7:03 PM

kiwifan wrote:

I will be bias, CRF hands down....and dont listen to the above comment, compare a 19 to 19 not a 18 to a 19

Have you ridden both 19s? If the 19 Honda is as good as the kx that will help me. I really don’t want to get off a Honda but I just can’t get right with the 18. Do you own a 19?

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10/28/2018 7:19 PM

I've ridden both 19's back to back. Honda has more power every where, no contest. Handling wise, the Honda feels busier and a bit more sensitive to trying to hit your line when entering corners. Kawi felt more planted, easier to ride and plusher overall feel.

Both bikes were stock and neither one set up for me. We all know that either one can be set up as needed with time.

I'll take either bike for Christmas, then set up accordingly wink

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10/28/2018 8:30 PM

Kx

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10/28/2018 9:01 PM

kiwifan wrote:

I will be bias, CRF hands down....and dont listen to the above comment, compare a 19 to 19 not a 18 to a 19

JohnnyD13 wrote:

Have you ridden both 19s? If the 19 Honda is as good as the kx that will help me. I really don’t want to get off a Honda but I just can’t get right with the 18. Do you own a 19?

Yes I have ridden the kx, admittedly only once

I own a CRF450RWE

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

10/28/2018 9:03 PM

NeedMoto wrote:

I've ridden both 19's back to back. Honda has more power every where, no contest. Handling wise, the Honda feels busier and a bit more sensitive to trying to hit your line when entering corners. Kawi felt more planted, easier to ride and plusher overall feel.

Both bikes were stock and neither one set up for me. We all know that either one can be set up as needed with time.

I'll take either bike for Christmas, then set up accordingly wink

This, either bike is actually a good pick...I just prefer the CRF

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

10/29/2018 5:11 AM

Kawi beat Honda in every shootout this year. So there's that. I'm not sure the changes are better to the Honda this year, everyone seemed to like the 18 Honda and it seems to have gone backwards this year in rankings. Best bet is try one if you can. Personally I'd get the Kawi though.

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10/29/2018 7:25 AM

I have ridden both the 2019 Crf450r and crf450rwe. I own a crf450rwe. I have not ridden the kx. The 2019 Honda turns on a dime. I have not felt the busy, uneasy or unstable characteristics some speak of. The motor is awesome!

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10/29/2018 7:59 AM

These days the bikes are all so similar in performance it doesn’t really matter, pick the one you think looks best!

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10/29/2018 7:29 PM

Is the kxf larger or maybe wider compared to the Honda? The Honda has been feeling small and a bit twitchy to me the last few years. Both are great bikes but never been on 18s or 19s. I like the reviews of that Kawi but been on Honda for a long time.

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I don't have to be as smart as you hope to be some day anymore. wink

10/29/2018 7:34 PM

FLmxer wrote:

Is the kxf larger or maybe wider compared to the Honda? The Honda has been feeling small and a bit twitchy to me the last few years. Both are great bikes but never been on 18s or 19s. I like the reviews of that Kawi but been on Honda for a long time.

The Honda is a lot more roomier than it used to be (pre-17 they were 'smaller' in the cockpit area)

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

10/29/2018 7:35 PM

If you ride soft tracks I would go Honda. If you ride hard pack square edge stuff do not pick the Honda.

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"Who cares about what other people think"

10/29/2018 7:57 PM

Shoulda made it a votesmile

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10/29/2018 8:20 PM

I've ridden the 18 Honda and own a 19 KX. I will say the 19 KX is the best mx bike I've ever ridden. I also really liked the 18 Honda when I rode it. One thing that made me hesitate with the Honda though is that it felt a little short to me from front to back. They are both slim and feel great though. I'm taller and the KX just seems to fit me better, but Pingree isn't tall and thinks the KX is the best 450 out there this year. Plus, I wanted a hydro clutch and the Honda doesn't have it stock and the KX does. The 19 Honda 450 does look great though!

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10/30/2018 3:20 AM

Try Yami 18 or 19, for me feeling was way better than CRF

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18 Yamaha YZ450F
94 Honda CR 500
90 Honda CR 500
81 Yamaha SR 500
68 BSA Thunderbolt
69 Triumph Tiger 100

10/30/2018 4:09 AM

David934 wrote:

Try Yami 18 or 19, for me feeling was way better than CRF

Agree man my YZF is awesome to ride

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10/30/2018 5:47 AM

JohnnyD13 wrote:

I currently own an 18 CRF450R. I road a 19 kx. My CR is for sale after one ride. And I’ve talked to Chris Keefer to make sure I wasn’t just loosing my mind. I would ride both. I bet it will be an easy decision

Like Keefer says buy the bike you get the best deal on ............

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10/30/2018 6:27 AM

Myke wrote:

If you ride soft tracks I would go Honda. If you ride hard pack square edge stuff do not pick the Honda.

Interesting. There is a local track that gets hard pack with square edges & haven't experienced any issues with an 18 CRF450r.

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Speak softly and carry a big stick.

10/30/2018 6:51 AM

had both, I am a Honda fanboys for 40 plus years now. Went with a new KX for the weight and the clutch. The weight is not much on the scale but huge riding and you cant beat a hydro clutch. Also, the chassis is softer on the KX. I miss the Honda quality like simple bolts for example, but happy with my choice. When Honda puts a real clutch in their bike, losses a little weight and make a chassis not so rigid, I am back!

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10/30/2018 8:06 AM

GPrider wrote:

had both, I am a Honda fanboys for 40 plus years now. Went with a new KX for the weight and the clutch. The weight is not much on the scale but huge riding and you cant beat a hydro clutch. Also, the chassis is softer on the KX. I miss the Honda quality like simple bolts for example, but happy with my choice. When Honda puts a real clutch in their bike, losses a little weight and make a chassis not so rigid, I am back!

That was the same reason I went Kawie . I like the chassis better and love the hydro clutch along with it being lighter . That said I'd be slow on any of the bikes

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10/30/2018 9:14 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/30/2018 9:15 AM

Nobody here can use all the power any new bike has and the power can be changed with mapping, however steering geometry can not be changed. If a bike is twitchy and pushes the front wheel in the turns there is very little that can be done about it.

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10/30/2018 9:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/30/2018 9:31 AM

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10/30/2018 9:31 AM

barnett468 wrote:

Nobody here can use all the power any new bike has and the power can be changed with mapping, however steering geometry can not be changed. If a bike is twitchy and pushes the front wheel in the turns there is very little that can be done about it.

I use the full power every time I ride, who are you to judge?

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

10/30/2018 10:01 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/30/2018 10:02 AM

I'd say get the KX if you buy new bikes frequently/mechanically inclined. Honda if you keep your bikes for a long time.

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10/30/2018 10:04 AM

I had a 17 kx450 and an 18 crf 450 if your old like me,55, and your reflexes are gone don't buy the Honda its fast and busy I was afraid mine was going to throw me down at any instance I know your looking at new bikes and I'm talking a 17 I should have just kept mine

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10/30/2018 10:07 AM
Edited Date/Time: 10/30/2018 10:37 AM

barnett468 wrote:

Nobody here can use all the power any new bike has and the power can be changed with mapping, however steering geometry can not be changed. If a bike is twitchy and pushes the front wheel in the turns there is very little that can be done about it.

BobPA wrote:

I use the full power every time I ride, who are you to judge?

ummmm...any rider with even a modicum of skill can hold the throttle wide open on these bikes for at least a short period of time, however, if you were capable of effectively using all the power the bike has, you would be a top level pro rider, and if you are not, then Herlings could easily smoke you on the same bike if he had 20 less hp. It's really that simple.

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10/30/2018 1:13 PM

What has the 2019 CRF250 thread got to do with buying a KX450 or a CRF450R?

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

10/30/2018 3:37 PM

I have not ridden a new gen CRF, but I own a 19 KX. It is hands down the best bike I've ever ridden and would buy one again in a heartbeat.

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