Ktm 200 2 stroke

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Edited Date/Time 7/24/2019 2:57pm
It seems as though they’d be to 2 strokes what the ktm350f’s are to 4 stroke. Why don’t they make them anymore?
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scott_nz 7/19/2019 10:16pm
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observeroffacts wrote:
It seems as though they’d be to 2 strokes what the ktm350f’s are to 4 stroke. Why don’t they make them anymore?
same as the 380/360, they didnt sell enough to bother with it, , so when they made the new 125 with smaller cases, the biggest they seem to be able to go it is 150, which is a good bike

Beta are making a new 200 in Enduro spec,
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HighPlainsSquid 7/20/2019 5:56am
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They made the 150. I've ridden both- had a 200 SX, have two 150's (counting my XC-W and my son's SX)- and the 150 is a killer bike. If you want a 200, look at the Beta 200 RR. Rode those in Texas and they were nice. My son had his SX at the time and said it felt just as strong as the 200 but lighter. Even so, we both liked the 200 RR a lot. The bike I LOVED, though, was the 125 RR and it convinced me that I'd like the KTM 150 XC-W even better. Smile
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I have a 2005 200exc. I don't ride the bike much anymore but it's a great engine for the woods.

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T-Fish 7/20/2019 7:27am
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If they made a modern day 200SX, I’d probably buy one.
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flyinb501 7/20/2019 8:06am
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I'd buy one. The 150 just isn't quite enough.
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colintrax 7/20/2019 8:10am
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The 200 used the 125 cases. Just bored and stroked to make a 200. The new cases only have enough room for the 125 crank. Why the 150 is just a big bore now (old 150/144 was bored and stroked) and the 200 is no longer.
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Edge-Of-Adhesion 7/20/2019 9:07am
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kxfracer108 wrote:
I have a 2005 200exc. I don't ride the bike much anymore but it's a great engine for the woods.
I have an '03 EXC that I've had from new for woods racing in England. It's still going strong and although I'm too old to ride now, that 200 isn't.








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jeffro667 7/22/2019 1:41pm
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I've been working on this one for a while, should have it ready to try out soon. It sounds like a good idea, I guess I'll find out! It's a 13 150xc with a 200 crank and top end.
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Phillip_Lamb 7/22/2019 3:18pm
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the SX model iirc only was produced for 2003-2004. and i would wager that the intro of 250 4 strokes at the time were a huge blow to what was a great vet bike.

everyone and their mom jumped on 4 strokes at that time and they were the new thing and easy to ride. also KTM dumped a bunch of money into their 250 program at the time as well.

also back in 09?11? when ktm did a huge redesign on the 125 the cases got smaller and meant you couldn't put a big enough piston in anymore as they ran the 200xc for some time
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BobPA 7/22/2019 3:30pm
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Those 200’s sure ruled the 0-200cc off-road classes around here in the mid-2000’s. Sweet engines.
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Have the last year 200 exc. Up to 80hrs now but won't be selling. Even when I upgrade to a 250 or possibly go the beta route with their 200. By the sounds of it though need to blag a go on the 150 ! Can't imagine why a non pro would want a more powerful, heavyer bike to race for 3hrs strait plus.
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toomanykaws 7/22/2019 5:28pm
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I have a modded kdx200 with modern suspension. I always thought the bike was lightweight to me anyways. Sure been through lot different terrain with it. Love that bike. Few months ago found a 16' TE125. For $3500. Baby causes sale. Payoff deal. Original tires, everything. Don't think it been rode too many times. Cases are mint. Damn is it lightweight. Sorted the jetting out. It is fun. You wouldn't think it could have this much semi mid range and power.
Just bought a 19 TE150 and 19 TE300. Havent rode either yet still in the crates. My ole 200 which feels light compared to my 500s. Now feels like a tank compared to the 125. This 125 being a 16 I can use the 200 crank and cy to make a semi modern 200. But gonna leave it as is. Too much fun. Plan to do a cy head and maybe a Lectron on the TE150. Hard to beat the smaller bikes in rocky desert terrain. Now with the 2020 TPI 150s. Sounds all neat and new but being able to jet a carb isn't a bad thing. Or have carb options.
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garagedog 7/22/2019 8:11pm
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jeffro667 wrote:
I've been working on this one for a while, should have it ready to try out soon. It sounds like a good idea, I guess I'll...
I've been working on this one for a while, should have it ready to try out soon. It sounds like a good idea, I guess I'll find out! It's a 13 150xc with a 200 crank and top end.
You need to start a thread in the Bike Builds forum!!!!!
I'm interested in how that works out.
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I’ve got a 2014 model with the electric start as a spare backup bike, Girlfriend has been learning to ride it along with my youngest son who’s getting back into riding.
Don’t think I’d ever sell it.
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FWYT 7/22/2019 9:45pm
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I have an '04 200EXC and just love it. Such a fun do-it-all bike. Just put in a new crank; last one went 90 hours.
Fugging love that thing.

On thing- for moto the gearbox spacing is a little goofy. Most people tend to gear up to get the spacing to seem right.
I went way down - 13/52. Works just about right. Such a fun bike to ride!!!
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Crossup 7/23/2019 11:41am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
The new 2020 Beta 200 RR. '19's still available.



https://betausagallery.com/2020-200-rr/
I ride with a friend that has a new 200RR. He loves the bike, but he has to redo the suspension twice to get the ride that he wanted. He also took off the oil injection system and is mixing gas now.
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Johnny Depp 7/23/2019 11:49am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
The new 2020 Beta 200 RR. '19's still available.



https://betausagallery.com/2020-200-rr/
Crossup wrote:
I ride with a friend that has a new 200RR. He loves the bike, but he has to redo the suspension twice to get the ride...
I ride with a friend that has a new 200RR. He loves the bike, but he has to redo the suspension twice to get the ride that he wanted. He also took off the oil injection system and is mixing gas now.
It's unfortunate he had to do it twice, but most riders will plan to set up the suspension to suit them, whether it be springs or valving. I have found Beta's rear spring rate chart to be wrong by about 2 categories, and many set the sag wrong, Beta's should be under 100. It's nice to know that through BYOB you can have the bike delivered with the springs and suspension tuning already done if you choose. That's what I did but I missed the mark on the rear spring, twice.
Jeff_Crutcher 7/24/2019 5:23am
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I pulled a holeshot in 450 B mod at Lake Whitney am national on a 200 SX in 2003. My lead lasted to the big uphill.
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tobz 7/24/2019 5:58am
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Hugely underrated bike, my '11 200 exc was the best bike I've had.


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racerhansen 7/24/2019 7:18am
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I had the 2004 SX 200 the last ones they built. One of the best bikes I ever had. We got it ported and had it running really really good. I remember it being almost too powerful for the 125 clutches, we were changing those like underwear.
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T-Fish 7/24/2019 8:07am
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I turned my 2010 150SX into a 200SX. This is how it sits and it’s for sale if anyone wants it.

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HighPlainsSquid 7/24/2019 1:24pm
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T-Fish wrote:
I turned my 2010 150SX into a 200SX. This is how it sits and it’s for sale if anyone wants it. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/24/362248/s1200_66ACFD1F_C079_4CAC_A76B_468C26225EB2.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/07/24/362249/s1200_0F8B0520_73F1_49C1_988D_1071D5A9020D.jpg[/img]
I turned my 2010 150SX into a 200SX. This is how it sits and it’s for sale if anyone wants it.

So, very ,very tempting!!!
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ktmdan 7/24/2019 2:57pm
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jeffro667 wrote:
I've been working on this one for a while, should have it ready to try out soon. It sounds like a good idea, I guess I'll...
I've been working on this one for a while, should have it ready to try out soon. It sounds like a good idea, I guess I'll find out! It's a 13 150xc with a 200 crank and top end.
I raced a 2012 conversion 200xc some last year. The thing ripped and was incredibly light. Raced it in the open A class off-road. I was always underpowered but on certain tight tracks it was the best bike in the class.

Raced an ‘03 200sx back in the day after outgrowing the kx100. That bike was awesome. Had an ‘03 at the time as well.

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