Knee dislocation, which braces?

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5/21/2018 2:51 PM

Well, made it about 10 minutes in to my first hare scramble of the season, rainy day in a rocky shallow root pine forest. Went to jump over a series of rocks by launching off the first rock and it didn't end well. Rear tire spun sideways and I was along for the ride in to some trees. Face first, bounced off the first set which is where my left leg came in to contact with the tree, flew 15' in to the next tree that stopped me, nice big bruise on my upper right arm. Helmet is done, broke the bolt that screws my bark busters in to the end of my bars (they saved my hand for sure), bars are likely bent but that looks like the only damage to the bike.
Instant pain, but diagnosed myself laying on the ground that it was a dislocated knee (former army medic). Immediate pain relief once it was set in to place at the hospital.

So, once I'm back on the bike I want some knee guards. I have hook ups for CTI braces, but someone else suggested the DonJoy braces. I'm assuming I can get them covered through my insurance at work, people get all sorts of things approved.

And for content, here's a fun picture: Photo

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5/22/2018 7:54 AM

CTI is in the industry and has developed braces for your pleasure. Donjoy is a excellent brace but does not specialize in motocross.

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5/22/2018 8:36 AM

I rode with CTI's after my 1st ACL surgery on the right knee, and they felt great to ride in. They didn't prevent the 2nd ACL tear in the same knee, but there wasn't much they could do when my leg went sideways under someones bike.

I stretched my left ACL with CTI's getting my toe caught on a tree root at an off-road race, but again, don't think their meant to prevent that kind of thing from happening. I got a DonJoy for my left knee after the surgery, and I think it would be a better choice, at least for me. I stopped riding long before I got my left knee repaired, but I think if I were still riding I would try to get a set of DonJoys. They do a really good job of stopping hyperextension, and I like how the brace goes over the femur/under the calf. It definitely felt more bulky than the CTI, but I felt more confident going in to recovery with the Donjoy than I did the CTI.

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5/22/2018 8:40 AM

I've dislocated both knees multiple times just like your picture, I ran the TLD knee braces the last few years and had no problems.

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5/22/2018 9:11 AM

No advice here but I'm curious to know how they set that back in place. Looks really painful. Better to break a bone? Once it's set back in place is there any type of recovery or are you're immediately good to go but just really sore walking for a while?

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5/22/2018 9:23 AM

Yeah, Donjoy makes an excellent product but they don't specialize in mx. My son wears them playing football and likes them. But for mx, another brand may be better.

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5/22/2018 9:44 AM

I did this in college while skinny dipping in the ocean after drinking all night. Started running in the water while looking back for my female accomplice...something struck my leg mid stride and I flipped into the water. Instant knee pain, I couldn't bend my leg...felt my knee cap displaced and then felt it slide back into place. I thought I was going to drown, my friend couldn't see me and the waves were pounding me.

I figure it was a shark that hit me, whatever it was, the damn thing was solid and it felt like an NFL lineman had taken my legs out from under me.

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5/22/2018 2:22 PM

Mobius braces are the real deal. I blew my knee out a couple years back and have ridden with them since then. They have great protection and are reasonably priced.

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5/22/2018 2:47 PM

DonJoy use to sponsor Langston. There's even a motocross video with Metcalfe on their site. I have prescription DonJoy braces that I used for years with the knee guards. Last year I got CTI's. I like the fit better with the CTI's. Also, the knee cup offers more protection

They're both great braces. Get the prescription ones and not the off the shelf sizes.

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5/22/2018 4:00 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

No advice here but I'm curious to know how they set that back in place. Looks really painful. Better to break a bone? Once ...more

I wasn't conscious for that part of the deal. As soon as the Dr walked in the room she said she would be putting me under for it, which I was really thankful for. They wheeled me in to the crash room, took a quick x-ray and could tell by the doctors voice everything looked good (franco hospital). They put my mask on, I took one last look at the pretty nurse monitoring the anesthetic and I woke up in literally no pain but with a brace on.
There is so little pain 2 days after, that I accidentally stood up on my left leg getting out of bed, felt totally fine aside from being in the brace... As luck would have it, I had to report to the base clinic this morning and had 2 more cute med techs looking after me, and I have 2 weeks off until I go see the specialist. Can't do my normal job, and the only other job I could handle is up some deadly stairs so it's a no-go... I feel like crap since we are so short at work.
Pain wise, this was pretty much the worst pain yet I think, the fentanyl didn't really touch it, but once it was back in place it was good to go... My collar bone wasn't so bad at first, but after the surgery it was hell for a few days.
I was against knee braces as I figured it would increase the risk of breaking a bone, but now I've been doing more research and it doesn't really seem to increase that risk... And given the choice of a broken bone or messing up a joint, I'll take a bone... And I really think a brace would've allowed me to get back up and finish the race now that I've pieced together the crash. Damage to the inside of my left boot shows how bad I hit the tree. No rotation, of the joint, just literally cocked it over.

Sounds like either the CTIs or the DonJoy braces I can't go wrong. If the ortho signs off that I need them, our insurance covers them which is nice... Plans are back on to do the Corduroy enduro in September and maybe a few mx rounds late this summer, as long as I have nothing torn.

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5/22/2018 4:15 PM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

No advice here but I'm curious to know how they set that back in place. Looks really painful. Better to break a bone? Once ...more

White_Trash wrote:

I wasn't conscious for that part of the deal. As soon as the Dr walked in the room she said she would be putting me under for ...more

Looking at it again I think it's a good thing they put you out. Like you, I think breaking a bone would be better than screwing up a joint/ligaments. Takes less time to heal.

Good to know you're not in much pain. Could of been a lot worse.

As for knee braces, I've never rode without them. I just had off the shelf EVS braces so not custom but I believe it was better than nothing.

Should of asked them to video it.

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5/22/2018 5:37 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/22/2018 5:38 PM

White_Trash wrote:

I wasn't conscious for that part of the deal. As soon as the Dr walked in the room she said she would be putting me under for ...more

I've had the doctor put both knees back, but I also was conscious for one time when i did it out in Glamis. I was laying alone for a while with my leg like that, then a lady found me and went and found my family. They came and got me in a pickup truck on a piece of plywood and took me back to camp. My dad asked me if I wanted to ride in the back of a truck for an hour in pain or if I wanted him to put it back in place. I opted to not go to the hospital, my dad's buddy jumped in the back of the pickup with me and pulled my leg straight while my dad pushed the kneecap over.

Needless to say it was excruciating, but i put a neoprene brace on it after that and was walking around in a couple of hours. It swelled up like a mini basketball though, I had to get it drained when I got home.

I think all of the newer braces are good, I would go with whatever fits you best.

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5/23/2018 4:49 AM

-MAVERICK- wrote:

No advice here but I'm curious to know how they set that back in place. Looks really painful. Better to break a bone? Once ...more

White_Trash wrote:

I wasn't conscious for that part of the deal. As soon as the Dr walked in the room she said she would be putting me under for ...more

socalmx716 wrote:

I've had the doctor put both knees back, but I also was conscious for one time when i did it out in Glamis. I was laying alone ...more

There was a point before I got in the ambulance where I said it felt like I could just straighten it out and it would pop back in place. The ride out of the trail in the side by side sucked, the ambulance ride on our horrible New Brunswick roads wasn't much better! First time in 10 years of racing I've had to leave in an ambulance, can't complain too much.

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