Ken Roczen tied Bradshaw's record last night

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They both have 19 supercross wins and no championship, the record for most wins without the title.
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How many wins did Tomac have without a title?

He won it last year, but I'm sure he had more than 19 wins to his name before finally getting the title.

Roczen isn't retired, so he still has time to get a championship.
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evansteinberg 4/14/2021 9:58am
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I believe Tomac had 33 at the time of winning the title. What's the statistics of winning your first sx title in the eighth season?
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Roczen definitely still has a chance to get the title just like Tomac did when he was the record holder.

Its a pretty neat stat that was talked about a ton when Bradshaw did it, KDub got close, and of course Eli's journey which has already been brought up.
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evansteinberg wrote:
I believe Tomac had 33 at the time of winning the title. What's the statistics of winning your first sx title in the eighth season?
Yeah, it was something pretty crazy to have so many wins without a title. That's all irrelevant now, but it was weird to see such a high number of wins for an elite rider and no title to his name.

Still hoping to see Kenny get on of these titles.
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Crazy that Windham is only one win short of Kenny, when his entire career was against MC, RC, Reed, and Stew.
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visser62 wrote:
Crazy that Windham is only one win short of Kenny, when his entire career was against MC, RC, Reed, and Stew.
Kdub for Mt. Rushmore?
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ATKpilot99 4/14/2021 11:41am
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Riders with double digit wins and no title . Of course Kenny might be crossed off the list in a few weeks.

Ken Roczen 19 wins
Damon Bradshaw 19
Kevin Windham 18
Ezra Lusk 12
Broc Glover 10

Going by memory on the rest of the list . Any I've forgotten ?
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Riders with double digit wins and no title . Of course Kenny might be crossed off the list in a few weeks. Ken Roczen 19 wins...
Riders with double digit wins and no title . Of course Kenny might be crossed off the list in a few weeks.

Ken Roczen 19 wins
Damon Bradshaw 19
Kevin Windham 18
Ezra Lusk 12
Broc Glover 10

Going by memory on the rest of the list . Any I've forgotten ?
Good memory.

Mike LaRocco 10
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On the same subject. Does anyone know what the least amount of wins is for a premier SX title?
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ATKpilot99 4/14/2021 12:16pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
On the same subject. Does anyone know what the least amount of wins is for a premier SX title?
Ward had one main event win in 85. If you're talking single season.
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Pretty crazy when you consider that Stanton has 3 titles on 17 wins.
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Gotta be Anderson. He’s only won 5-6 races.

Donnie Hansen?

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Darrin Willis 4/14/2021 12:44pm
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Glover should of won in 85.ward rode backwards and should of been dqd
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tuttle425 4/14/2021 12:48pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
On the same subject. Does anyone know what the least amount of wins is for a premier SX title?
Karsmakers has only 1 win and 1 title
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
On the same subject. Does anyone know what the least amount of wins is for a premier SX title?
probably Emig or Anderson
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
On the same subject. Does anyone know what the least amount of wins is for a premier SX title?
ratonmacias wrote:
probably Emig or Anderson
Emig / Anderson / O’Mara are all at 7 each.

...but Hansen’s got the holeshot on those 3 with 4 wins.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Riders with double digit wins and no title . Of course Kenny might be crossed off the list in a few weeks. Ken Roczen 19 wins...
Riders with double digit wins and no title . Of course Kenny might be crossed off the list in a few weeks.

Ken Roczen 19 wins
Damon Bradshaw 19
Kevin Windham 18
Ezra Lusk 12
Broc Glover 10

Going by memory on the rest of the list . Any I've forgotten ?
Some bad ass riders on this list. Bradshaw - LEGEND and should of won it in 1992. I was at the Vegas Supercorss when he T-Boned Chicken for no reason. Had he just passed him at Vegas, LA Collesium is a none issue. Lusk was fast - very fast and had a legit shot the year he busted his shoulder (2000). Glover was a few points and a protest away from winning it in 1985.
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evansteinberg wrote:
I believe Tomac had 33 at the time of winning the title. What's the statistics of winning your first sx title in the eighth season?
What makes all of this even crazier is when you factor in Tomac winning the first pro race he entered.
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visser62 wrote:
Crazy that Windham is only one win short of Kenny, when his entire career was against MC, RC, Reed, and Stew.
What’s even crazier, is that Stew, RC and Reed, numbers 2, 3 & 4 on the all time win list, had the majority of those wins racing each other.
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Dutch348 4/16/2021 6:43pm
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Man if Bradshaw hadn’t gotten into it with Chicken at that race when he t-boned him, he would’ve easily had that title. I still say Bradshaw had the best style in the history of the sport.
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kage173 4/16/2021 6:49pm
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Good stat OP. Lot of people made noise about the 3 carrying that mantle. This is the first word I've heard about it with Roczen
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blockhead17 4/17/2021 3:05am
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visser62 wrote:
Crazy that Windham is only one win short of Kenny, when his entire career was against MC, RC, Reed, and Stew.
CPR wrote:
What’s even crazier, is that Stew, RC and Reed, numbers 2, 3 & 4 on the all time win list, had the majority of those wins...
What’s even crazier, is that Stew, RC and Reed, numbers 2, 3 & 4 on the all time win list, had the majority of those wins racing each other.
If Chad never came to the US and James never raced, then Ricky would have about 700 wins by now haha
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Gordon Liddy 4/17/2021 3:16am
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evansteinberg wrote:
I believe Tomac had 33 at the time of winning the title. What's the statistics of winning your first sx title in the eighth season?
I researched this last year and I think no one had ever won their first supercross title in there seventh year or later so tomac definitely set a record for that.
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dge532 4/17/2021 6:53am
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Admit huge Bradshaw fan here, but pretty sure he got all those wins in 3 years, how longs kr been at this?
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dge532 wrote:
Admit huge Bradshaw fan here, but pretty sure he got all those wins in 3 years, how longs kr been at this?
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