Ken Roczen laps Blake Baggett in both heats!

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Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in the world!! Europe!
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MXMattii wrote:
[img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/341/kenroczenmxdn.jpg[/img] Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in...


Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in the world!! Europe!
Ken is a great rider, but I did not see him or Germany on the podium after the race was over, did you??
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honda341 9/18/2011 8:41am
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Can't wait to watch him try to prove that in a few months.
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Wolfman 9/18/2011 8:42am
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Sorry, but Ken is one of ours now.

Baggett had 2 bad motos. Suck it.

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honda341 9/18/2011 8:43am
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DOOOUUUBBBBT it will happen though. Don't get me wrong. The kid has incredible speed and raw talent but seemed that in a lights/MX2/250F race he didn't quite have it.
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prozach 9/18/2011 8:43am
9/18/2011 8:43am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2011 8:44am
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty sure Bagget beat him. No?
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500guy 9/18/2011 8:46am
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Congratulations to Ken, Who won the event ? oh yep thats right USA
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chrisbuehler 9/18/2011 8:46am
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In an actual Mx2 moto yest BB beat sooo? You cant take any thing from this one-off race with mixed bikes in the motos. Mind you I think Roczen is great . That one-lined piece of shit track was a joke too. Funny you euros talk about our tracks being smooth HAHA!! We have the roughest most brutal tracks in the world even Rattray admitted it. And they have more than one line too
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So you guys are saying that the qualifying race meant more to win for Bagett? Or that its easier to race in a heat together with the 450's?

lol


Roczen also beat Dungey, who has 200cc's more.
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MXMattii wrote:
[img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/341/kenroczenmxdn.jpg[/img] Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in...


Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in the world!! Europe!
1911 wrote:
Ken is a great rider, but I did not see him or Germany on the podium after the race was over, did you??
Yeah I saw him on the podium... He won the MX2 class!! WinkTongue
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MXMattii wrote:
[img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/341/kenroczenmxdn.jpg[/img] Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in...


Ken Roczen, the World Champion MX2 laps Blake Baggett in both heats! The Welt Meister showed the world who produces the fastest MX2 riders in the world!! Europe!
That German rolled through the pack just like they did to your country 60 years ago!
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Did you saw in first moto how well he did as soon as it started raining??? the guy has skills in the mud
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The Universe wrote:
That German rolled through the pack just like they did to your country 60 years ago!
HAHAHA!
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Believe it or not, despite Baggett's 2 "bad' motos, he was technically 4th overall in MX2!! We needed every bit of his score, a true team effort as always! Great job boys!

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scooter5002 9/18/2011 8:49am
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Are you brainwashed from the approximately 10 years or so the Germans spent goose-stepping in your little feifdom? Wow. Fastest 250F riders in the world? From one race you reach this conclusion. Fuckin wow!
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prozach wrote:
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty...
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty sure Bagget beat him. No?
That is why the us vs. them arguments never end. When Blake beats Roczen in the qualifier the other side says it does not matter it is not the real race. When Roczen finishes ahead of Bagget in the motos we say Blake had an awful gate pick crashed and was riding for the team.

Due to the format the MXDN will never end the debate.
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Derpin' DJ 9/18/2011 8:50am
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scooter5002 wrote:
Are you brainwashed from the approximately 10 years or so the Germans spent goose-stepping in your little feifdom? Wow. Fastest 250F riders in the world? From...
Are you brainwashed from the approximately 10 years or so the Germans spent goose-stepping in your little feifdom? Wow. Fastest 250F riders in the world? From one race you reach this conclusion. Fuckin wow!
He was top last year as well. So, yeah

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prozach 9/18/2011 8:51am
9/18/2011 8:51am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2011 8:52am
It is a team race.
It is a team race.
It is a team race.
It is a team race.
It is a team race.

What do Europeans not get about this? The only races where everyone was riding solely for themselves were the qualifiers. Ken rode great and in 3 months he will get to try to prove himself against AMA talent were all the riders will be riding smart for the good of the overall goal (championship) not simply moto wins.
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carlosmacho 9/18/2011 8:51am
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prozach wrote:
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty...
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty sure Bagget beat him. No?
Actually he did, in qualifying. Blake smoked Roczen like a cheap cigar. I think Blake got nervous and choked a little in the race, remember as Decoster said, "he is our rookie"
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MXMattii 9/18/2011 8:53am
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prozach wrote:
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty...
Actually in the only individual race of the weekend where all 250s were on the line together without the pressure of team results I am pretty sure Bagget beat him. No?
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That is why the us vs. them arguments never end. When Blake beats Roczen in the qualifier the other side says it does not matter it...
That is why the us vs. them arguments never end. When Blake beats Roczen in the qualifier the other side says it does not matter it is not the real race. When Roczen finishes ahead of Bagget in the motos we say Blake had an awful gate pick crashed and was riding for the team.

Due to the format the MXDN will never end the debate.
Bad gate pick?? The First heat he had the first American gate and he screwed his start up, so he got locked up by Lupino.
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honda341 9/18/2011 8:53am
9/18/2011 8:53am Edited Date/Time 9/18/2011 8:57am
This debate should be ended in about a year but I am sure that sooooome excuse will come up. Track knowledge or injury or bike breaking or sooooome other excuse I can not even imagine. I guess the only way no excuses can come up is if Roczen actually wins straight up. But if Bagget wins the track knowledge excuse comes in. Oh well. Can't wait for A1
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carlosmacho 9/18/2011 8:54am
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Freddy wrote:
So you guys are saying that the qualifying race meant more to win for Bagett? Or that its easier to race in a heat together with...
So you guys are saying that the qualifying race meant more to win for Bagett? Or that its easier to race in a heat together with the 450's?

lol


Roczen also beat Dungey, who has 200cc's more.
No saying he is a rookie and "did not understand how big this race was" I think he was a little overwhelmed in the race and choked a bit but in the qualifier, he did not feel the pressure. Give him some time, he will get use to the pressure.
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Berni 9/18/2011 8:59am
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The reason I thing he didnt performed so wel is because, as far as I know, he is not a good mud rider, and this track was slippery as hell and got some watter too
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scooter5002 9/18/2011 9:01am
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THE mx addict wrote:
Absolutely.

But US mx fans love to forget it.

Wink
Canada, in this case. Monsieur. There is no doubt that Roczen is blazing fast, and should be a serious threat next year in the full tour de AMA. But this flag waving chest thumping Euros vs. U.S. thing is really REALLY fuckin' stale. The U.S. won......AGAIN........so just deal with it. People grab at any straw they can to make themselves feel better when they get whipped! The debate over who is the best will never stop. Nor the excuses as to WHY a team didn't win. Whatever.
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toddmc 9/18/2011 9:11am
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THE mx addict wrote:
Roczen also smoked Dungey and Villopoto during the 1st two motos !!! ...
Roczen Beat Dungy in the first heat, it really looked like Dungy struggled with the slippery conditions when it started raining and Roczen Shined during he same time. But Roczen didn't beat Villopoto. Oh yeah did you notice Villopoto won the overall with a score of 3-1, Dungy score 3-2, I believe Roczen went 2-4. So Roczen got 3rd overall and 1st lMX2 great ride he is very fast.

But you can see who went 1-2 overall and what team won overall.


PS: If memory serves me right I believe Villopoto went 1-1 on a 250F at Budd's creek during 2006.
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sharkey 9/18/2011 9:11am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
He was top last year as well. So, yeah
THE mx addict wrote:
Absolutely.

But US mx fans love to forget it.

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no your wrong, roczen has alot of fans here and his line at supercross were long. hes well liked here
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Mstock 9/18/2011 9:16am
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Ken had a outstanding race day. Never thought he would destroy Wilson and Bagget that bad.
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mx 219 9/18/2011 9:18am
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THE mx addict wrote:
Roczen also smoked Dungey and Villopoto during the 1st two motos !!! ...
When did Roczen beat Villo?...

as for Dungey, let's be honest that was a track where a 250 could beat a 450. Few mistakes in the mud by Dungey and Roczen got by. Dungey kept him honest though.

I believe Roczen also beat Pourcel, Cairoli, and others. In fact the only one he didnt beat was Reed.

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