Keefers Contingency Article

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1/9/2018 5:42 PM
Edited Date/Time: 1/9/2018 5:42 PM

Pretty interesting article about how much each manufacturer pays for contingency. Reading this kind of makes me wonder why more guys don't ride a Kawasaki with that they're paying.
Give it a read:
http://pulpmx.com/2018/01/09/pay-the-man-contingency-and-what-its-all-about/

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1/9/2018 5:49 PM

2002 we lived off RM bucks.

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1/9/2018 5:54 PM

Yes interesting reading for sure, add that with what you get from the AMA

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1/9/2018 6:30 PM

So according to Kawasaki, an 11th in a 450 main is worth the same as the last guy into the night show in the 250 class. Who comes up with this shit?

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1/9/2018 6:36 PM

Obiously this is different for factoy riders I take it? There's no way Ken is just getting 15k if he clicks off a win.

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1/9/2018 6:42 PM

Certain pros used to buy one brand that may have been inferior and race another for the contingency money paid by the former brand. For example, buy a bultaco, race a KTM, get the big bultaco contingency.

All at the local level of course..

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1/9/2018 6:46 PM

SteezGeez wrote:

Obiously this is different for factoy riders I take it? There's no way Ken is just getting 15k if he clicks off a win.

yes, Factory riders get a salary plus bonuses for winning....not sure how much more than contingency but probably a fair amount more I would guess

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1/9/2018 6:46 PM

SteezGeez wrote:

Obiously this is different for factoy riders I take it? There's no way Ken is just getting 15k if he clicks off a win.

Factory riders have bonuses written in their contracts. They don't receive contingency from the manufacturer's. Salary and bonuses.

Ken more than likely receives 85k-100k for a win not counting bonuses from Fox, Red Bull, etc.

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1/9/2018 8:11 PM

tcallahan707 wrote:

So according to Kawasaki, an 11th in a 450 main is worth the same as the last guy into the night show in the 250 class. Who comes up with this shit?

I didn't read it that way. Looks like $500 to make the night show and another $500 if you finish 11th-22nd for a total of $1,000.

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1/9/2018 8:43 PM

tcallahan707 wrote:

So according to Kawasaki, an 11th in a 450 main is worth the same as the last guy into the night show in the 250 class. Who comes up with this shit?

Ted722 wrote:

I didn't read it that way. Looks like $500 to make the night show and another $500 if you finish 11th-22nd for a total of $1,000.

That's entirely plausible.

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1/9/2018 8:55 PM

mtl wrote:

Certain pros used to buy one brand that may have been inferior and race another for the contingency money paid by the former brand. For example, buy a bultaco, race a KTM, get the big bultaco contingency.

All at the local level of course..

I know there is someone now at the ama headquarters that got caught trying to pass off a honda with all white plastic as a Yamaha back in the 90's.

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1/9/2018 9:08 PM

I thought this was for the every man? Who really cares what Pros make for contingency? I would care what I could realistically pull from my local races though......

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1/9/2018 9:24 PM

JMR1976 wrote:

2002 we lived off RM bucks.

Same here.

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1/9/2018 9:43 PM

About the same amounts as 20 years ago. Maybe less. Sure looks like less.

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1/14/2018 9:28 AM

mtl wrote:

Certain pros used to buy one brand that may have been inferior and race another for the contingency money paid by the former brand. For example, buy a bultaco, race a KTM, get the big bultaco contingency.

All at the local level of course..

JustMX wrote:

I know there is someone now at the ama headquarters that got caught trying to pass off a honda with all white plastic as a Yamaha back in the 90's.

Yeah,some of us in district 14 wondered about this back then,

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1/14/2018 9:52 AM

JMR1976 wrote:

2002 we lived off RM bucks.

agn5009 wrote:

Same here.

No doubt. Their contingency sold several bikes. Yamaha always paid pretty well in the woods.

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1/14/2018 4:34 PM

JMR1976 wrote:

2002 we lived off RM bucks.

agn5009 wrote:

Same here.

rohleder644 wrote:

No doubt. Their contingency sold several bikes. Yamaha always paid pretty well in the woods.

Honda pays better

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1/14/2018 5:50 PM

I used to go race the TORCS series, open A and sport A and could make 350 in each class for a win on Kawi. It's literally the only reason I got a Kawi (or a 4 stroke).

Seems to me like it would almost make more sense as a manufacturer to not have a factory team and put all of that money into contingency.

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1/14/2018 6:32 PM

ktmdan wrote:

I used to go race the TORCS series, open A and sport A and could make 350 in each class for a win on Kawi. It's literally the only reason I got a Kawi (or a 4 stroke).

Seems to me like it would almost make more sense as a manufacturer to not have a factory team and put all of that money into contingency.

Back around 2012 it was much the same with Kawi. Most if not all bikes that guys bought were Kawi due to the contingency... Granted the bikes were only good for a season but they were so fast it was pretty much worth it...

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