Keefer talking about how killer Reed's 2004 YZ250 was

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11/9/2022 7:02am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 8:33am
He cannot say say enough positive things about it especially about how it handled the whoops. I then remembered Yamaha during the early 2000s ran larger countershaft sprockets with smaller rear sprockets in attempt to lessen chain torque,

Ring any bells?
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He cannot [url=https://youtube.com/shorts/GpkoEUFSUiw?feature=share]say [/url] say enough positive things about it especially about how it handled the whoops. I then remembered Yamaha during the early 2000s ran...
He cannot say say enough positive things about it especially about how it handled the whoops. I then remembered Yamaha during the early 2000s ran larger countershaft sprockets with smaller rear sprockets in attempt to lessen chain torque,

Ring any bells?
I recall Honda ran a 15 on their 250's but who knows what was inside the transmission? Suzuki ran a heavier crank so they could use 3rd throughout the track.
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Was what?
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11/9/2022 10:05am
I do wonder how 05 would have went if he ran the 04..
Literally everyone on Yamaha hated the 05
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11/9/2022 6:05pm
I do wonder how 05 would have went if he ran the 04..
Literally everyone on Yamaha hated the 05
RC still would have won.
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I do wonder how 05 would have went if he ran the 04..
Literally everyone on Yamaha hated the 05
RC still would have won.
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He cannot [url=https://youtube.com/shorts/GpkoEUFSUiw?feature=share]say [/url] say enough positive things about it especially about how it handled the whoops. I then remembered Yamaha during the early 2000s ran...
He cannot say say enough positive things about it especially about how it handled the whoops. I then remembered Yamaha during the early 2000s ran larger countershaft sprockets with smaller rear sprockets in attempt to lessen chain torque,

Ring any bells?
never heard this. but a solid 250 engine, with good suspension and the steel frame was a solid package
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11/9/2022 8:13pm
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s.

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I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/09/576167/s1200_2B19F945_B7BA_4F89_A9EE_9C58011B39CF.jpg[/img]double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s...
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s.

What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
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I do wonder how 05 would have went if he ran the 04..
Literally everyone on Yamaha hated the 05
Considering how 03 SX went, I think by being out injured, RC dodged a bullet in 04 SX as well.
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11/10/2022 1:34am
Poses a great question, if RC was healthy in 04 who would have won?
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11/10/2022 3:23am
RC was going to race the CRF450 in SX that year
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11/10/2022 4:37am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 4:42am
Poses a great question, if RC was healthy in 04 who would have won?
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on the Honda, I think it would have been the one title the GOAT may have straight up lost.
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11/10/2022 4:39am
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/09/576167/s1200_2B19F945_B7BA_4F89_A9EE_9C58011B39CF.jpg[/img]double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s...
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s.

JMX82 wrote:
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so...
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine. Guess which engine is DB and I,ll hv my Serbian chic wash your boots with no top on
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11/10/2022 5:17am
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/09/576167/s1200_2B19F945_B7BA_4F89_A9EE_9C58011B39CF.jpg[/img]double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s...
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s.

JMX82 wrote:
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so...
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine...
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine. Guess which engine is DB and I,ll hv my Serbian chic wash your boots with no top on
Correction it’s the DBP. I saw Reed in 05 at Indy he Looked good. RC was on it tho riding the RM250 like it was a rm85.
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11/10/2022 5:51am
Poses a great question, if RC was healthy in 04 who would have won?
CPR wrote:
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on...
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on the Honda, I think it would have been the one title the GOAT may have straight up lost.
I'm biased towards Reed. But honestly it would have been a 2022 AMA National type Supercross Series with those 2 in 2004 if RC wasn't hurt. I agree Reed might have straight up beat RC in that series. Could have possibly led to him being faster and more confident and turning into the next McGrath of Supercross. We just never know.
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I do wonder how 05 would have went if he ran the 04..
Literally everyone on Yamaha hated the 05
Looking back, it makes me wonder why Yamaha would have pushed the aluminium frame in 05.

Being the leaders in the 4 stroke revolution at the time, they must have been well aware the YZ250 was in its final years on the pro scene.

It sounds as if the riders were pretty vocal about preferring the steel frame 04, yet they all had to ride the 05.
They could have held off the frame switch for the 06 season when the team was using the 450?

Who knows if it would have made any difference to the season's outcome, but it's interesting to think about
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11/10/2022 6:54am
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/09/576167/s1200_2B19F945_B7BA_4F89_A9EE_9C58011B39CF.jpg[/img]double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s...
I agree 04 was a Great yr for bikes. Limited quantities of double boost port works cr125 engines. Far more powerful and quick than the crf250,s.

JMX82 wrote:
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so...
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine...
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine. Guess which engine is DB and I,ll hv my Serbian chic wash your boots with no top on
Yeah but does it have the Tara Geiger porting!
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11/10/2022 7:08am
I do wonder how 05 would have went if he ran the 04..
Literally everyone on Yamaha hated the 05
RussB wrote:
Looking back, it makes me wonder why Yamaha would have pushed the aluminium frame in 05. Being the leaders in the 4 stroke revolution at the...
Looking back, it makes me wonder why Yamaha would have pushed the aluminium frame in 05.

Being the leaders in the 4 stroke revolution at the time, they must have been well aware the YZ250 was in its final years on the pro scene.

It sounds as if the riders were pretty vocal about preferring the steel frame 04, yet they all had to ride the 05.
They could have held off the frame switch for the 06 season when the team was using the 450?

Who knows if it would have made any difference to the season's outcome, but it's interesting to think about
Yeah Matthes talks about it quite a bit on pulp, apparently the prototype they rode was nothing like the production model.
I’m a Reed guy so I really wanna think he could have beaten Ricky in 04..
He was damn Inpressive at the end of 03, as a rookie too!
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11/10/2022 7:26am Edited Date/Time 11/10/2022 7:41am
2004 Reed = *

2004 No Ricky = Great Bike.
2005 Ricky smokes everybody = Bad bike.
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11/10/2022 7:27am
JMX82 wrote:
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so...
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
It's his thing. Talks about how great those CR125's were when we all though they were total dogs
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11/10/2022 7:35am
JMX82 wrote:
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so...
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine...
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine. Guess which engine is DB and I,ll hv my Serbian chic wash your boots with no top on
Correction it’s the DBP. I saw Reed in 05 at Indy he Looked good. RC was on it tho riding the RM250 like it was a...
Correction it’s the DBP. I saw Reed in 05 at Indy he Looked good. RC was on it tho riding the RM250 like it was a rm85.
Funny story, I was at that race as well and during practice Reed hit the triple turned the 180 and just popped a slow bad ass wheelie through the whoops where everyone was struggling. Unreal how good they were during that time. Just the sound of that YZ250 brapping and him wheeling was legit
11/10/2022 8:09am
JMX82 wrote:
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so...
What are you talking about? The 2004 CR125 is one of the slowest 125 I have ever ridden. KTM's and Yamaha's from that era were so much faster that it is not even funny
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine...
Ha you rode the non double boost port bike. The DB has 8.9 hp increase at 11,000 to 11,250. That’s why it’s a expert Level machine. Guess which engine is DB and I,ll hv my Serbian chic wash your boots with no top on
Yeah but does it have the Tara Geiger porting!
Ha I hv Tara,s replica LL championship 04 porting with a little bit extra torque. I heard John say in the background. With Really unique carb mods. Like I say I,m not worried about the 23 Ktm at all. Good thing I ran my butt off illegal to get here, still not unlded. My Ukraine dispatcher is not in today. A guy in Eastern Europe is communicating with me threw a app called Viber. Check it out it’s a trip. Days of hot euro chics posting pics on a holiday in a bikini or in a dress on a stone cauble st. Pic of tanning on a yacht. I say no helicopter like mine. They ask me r u excited to trade stocks today ? I respond , yeah sure I,ll watch u drop your socks but prefer your panties 1st. Haha I sent her shirtless pics. A women who runs the trading pulled me from the group after a few weeks. Haha
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Poses a great question, if RC was healthy in 04 who would have won?
CPR wrote:
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on...
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on the Honda, I think it would have been the one title the GOAT may have straight up lost.
Too many people forget how fast Reed was when he first came up to the premier class on the YZ250. He had a pace advantage against Ricky more often than not in 2003 SX, but a few bad results took him out of the championship. His pace compared to Ricky wasn't quite as good in '05 and '06, and he wasn't even near him in '07 but I believe he was dealing with some sort of injury?
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11/10/2022 8:33am
Poses a great question, if RC was healthy in 04 who would have won?
CPR wrote:
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on...
We’ll never know, but judging how 03 went with Reed as a rookie, add in how good the 04 Yami was, and with RC still on the Honda, I think it would have been the one title the GOAT may have straight up lost.
tomlopez wrote:
Too many people forget how fast Reed was when he first came up to the premier class on the YZ250. He had a pace advantage against...
Too many people forget how fast Reed was when he first came up to the premier class on the YZ250. He had a pace advantage against Ricky more often than not in 2003 SX, but a few bad results took him out of the championship. His pace compared to Ricky wasn't quite as good in '05 and '06, and he wasn't even near him in '07 but I believe he was dealing with some sort of injury?
The aluminum frame Yamaha 450 was not as good as the Suzuki or Kawi. When they made frame changes in 08 you saw Reed back on track with stew.
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