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Remember how awesome those first KX250f’s were?……oh never mind……
I understand why certain people are upset at the prospect of ICE development going away. I also understand why others are excited about the prospect of electric, either for performance, the environment the lack of maintenance or just "having something different".
Some random thoughts...
1) These threads are good reflections of the psychological implications of change within the sport.
2) Nobody should freak out about your ICE motor being banned. I highly (highly) doubt it will be.
3) In ~15 years, I'll be psyched to be riding at a high enough level I care about performance, no matter where that performance comes from. Health is more important than how my motor sounds.
4) Don't forget who the real focal point of the sport will be (hint, its not a bunch of crusty 50+ year old); the youth will be into electric for all the reasons we may not be.
5) The change will be gradual.
The only thing constant in life is that things change. Its true in everything. We're far better embracing it than we are fighting a fool's errand and hoping like hell "things stay the same". They never do. And never will.
Enjoy the ride, no matter where it takes us...
Fuel ones are much more fun !
This has become hysteria. Plans are being made that have no basis in reality or science.
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Newsflash: The push for WE models has nothing to do with the Vet crowd. The OEMs found a very inexpensive way to improve profit margin, without requiring massive R&D investment. In my area, I see far more WE models being bought by young adults (20-30 crowd)
Newsflash: By 2035, the +25 year old crowd that will be buying bikes are currently riding mini bikes, many of them electric. in a few more years, a kid will be able to start their career on an Edrive 50 and stay on electric models all the way up to big bikes.
Kaw, Yam, Suz, Honda will be slower to adopt, but they are further ahead at this point, as all 4 companies already have EV domain and power train experience with other applications within their corporation.
I fully believe Triumph will debut with EV bikes. Do a little research on their EV partnership and research projects with Williams Engineering (yes, F1 Williams)
The OEs that are really going to struggle with this technology adoption are the small, niche manufactures like Beta, Sherco, TM, etc. The R&D investment is so large that I’m not sure how they will keep up.
Personally, I’m excited. This is the next technological revolution in the history of our sport and is fantastic for the sustainability of our future.
Off road bikes are exempt in EU as well.
Australia still has street legal out the door yz125's. I bet somehow they still will in 2035 too.
US dirt bikes are EPA competition exempt so none of the rules apply there either.
Fact of the matter is nowhere in the western world has any current or planned ban of off road ICE bikes whatsoever except for California. All other proposed or planned bans apply to plated bikes only.
I love the rev limiter Barcia style and its going to suck with out it but honestly my circular saw, drill, sawsall and now dirtbike are all battery powered and better and more convenient than gas or power cord with out a doubt. Crazy times.
Your stat also doesn’t pass the smell test.
In 2020, Honda sold CRF50s at a nearly 4:1 ratio when compared to 450/250Fs. Similar trend for other OEMs.
When looking at the data for the the Top 10 Off-road models sold from all OEMs in North America, the 1st thru 5th best selling models are mini bikes and 6 of the top 10 on the list are minis. I did the math from this list and mini bike sales accounted for 73% of the new model off-road sales.
That age group purchases the majority of motorcycles sold. You can try to spin it or strawman it but that is a fact.
Some Tesla founder is locking down deals with Auto companies who need to recycle batteries by the month:
https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/22/ford-partners-with-battery-recycling-…
Same thing that happened in the late 2000s. Maybe, who knows.
Hope this doesn’t make Kawi stifle their four stroke development like it did their two stroke development.
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