KTM statement: No Herlings in AMA Nationals

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Edited Date/Time 3/22/2019 4:41pm
According to our Dutch news site, Herlings is not allowed to ride the AMA Nationals this summer.

The reasons they give are injury possibilities (as he isn't fully recovered by then) and the fact that they already have Musquin and Webb for USA.

Seems like he really wanted it, last week he was in a show PepTalk at ZiggoSports and he stated there that he would fly to Austria this week to talk about it with Beier

source: https://nos.nl/artikel/2277000-herlings-moet-van-team-afzien-van-overst…
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3/21/2019 4:35am
That is what I expected.
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3/21/2019 4:46am
Bummer guess KTM really is a bike company who goes racing and not a racing company that builds bikes after all.
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3/21/2019 4:48am
Oh, Austria eh? Well... Let's throw another shrimp on the barbie!
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3/21/2019 4:50am
Not totally unexpected, and I can see KTM's reasoning on this issue.
I think the real question is whether or not he will be willing to ride around behind TC if that is what is needed for KTM to win the MXGP championship.
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3/21/2019 4:53am
slipdog wrote:
Oh, Austria eh? Well... Let's throw another shrimp on the barbie!
Let's not......Shocked
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In one of his interviews (I read somewhere) Pit Beirer was dead against Herlings coming to the states for the outdoors.

It's a loss for KTM as I personally think that Herlings would do a f@ck load of winning with a possible Championship at the end.

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3/21/2019 4:55am
makes sense to not compete in a championship that you could win to compete in one half way through the series for...... ?!
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3/21/2019 5:03am
A shame.
Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included.
Isn't that the whole point of a manufacturer going racing ?
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number six wrote:
A shame. Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included. Isn't that the...
A shame.
Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included.
Isn't that the whole point of a manufacturer going racing ?
Yeah, you don’t see any KTM’s in the field during the week....
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slipdog wrote:
Oh, Austria eh? Well... Let's throw another shrimp on the barbie!
And knock the top off of a couple of Frothies
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number six wrote:
A shame. Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included. Isn't that the...
A shame.
Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included.
Isn't that the whole point of a manufacturer going racing ?
Exactly, the interest Herlings would generate for KTM and the series.....off the charts.

AND......let me stir the pot here, the "whose better" between the US and Europe argument would have been settled. Whistling
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number six wrote:
A shame. Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included. Isn't that the...
A shame.
Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included.
Isn't that the whole point of a manufacturer going racing ?
BobPA wrote:
Yeah, you don’t see any KTM’s in the field during the week....
It's more the amount of interest because a top MXGP guy can compete in the AMA circuit. Probably his only chance to try it and he made it well known that he didn't want to back off from this challenge.
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3/21/2019 5:13am
We can all hope that he he does atlest 1 or 2 races in the US at the end of the season.
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3/21/2019 5:16am
number six wrote:
A shame. Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included. Isn't that the...
A shame.
Herlings racing the Nationals would likely create far more more interest worldwide than anything else KTM achieves in 2019, championships included.
Isn't that the whole point of a manufacturer going racing ?
Boomslang wrote:
Exactly, the interest Herlings would generate for KTM and the series.....off the charts. AND......let me stir the pot here, the "whose better" between the US and...
Exactly, the interest Herlings would generate for KTM and the series.....off the charts.

AND......let me stir the pot here, the "whose better" between the US and Europe argument would have been settled. Whistling
That's true. We would have never seen another "which series is better" post again. All we would have been left with is JS7 threads.
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3/21/2019 5:20am
How many riders have won both the 450 world championship and the US outdoors?

I know Albertyn did it back in the day (2T)

Herlings had a legit chance until Beier put his foot down.
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3/21/2019 5:28am
Ktm already has 4 factory 450 riders in the nationals. Why not add a 5th? He cant win the gp title. Come over and try for the nationals.
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3/21/2019 5:32am
That’s really dumb. Now Herlings will just be racing for nothing the whole season. If it were me, I’d 100% have him racing in the US.

Option A: Ride the World Championship Series, a series you’ve already won, and have zero chance to win the championship. This is currently the premier MX series in the world.

Option B: Ride the US Championship Series, a series you’ve only competed in at one race, and have a great chance to win the championship. This is currently the second best MX series in the world. And, given the circumstances, this will be the only opportunity of your career to go get this championship.

Seems pretty obvious to me honestly.
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3/21/2019 5:41am
I'm betting they want him over there in case AC gets hurt so they still have a guy up front and winning races.
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3/21/2019 5:42am
What if Web or Musquin gets hurt... or both.
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KTM is a business first and a race team second. They have sponsor commitments, sponsors that signed up this year to support the reigning world champion in the MXGP. His absence from the races that he is missing is bad enough, taking him out of the whole series would be a disaster.
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Beeby wrote:
KTM is a business first and a race team second. They have sponsor commitments, sponsors that signed up this year to support the reigning world champion...
KTM is a business first and a race team second. They have sponsor commitments, sponsors that signed up this year to support the reigning world champion in the MXGP. His absence from the races that he is missing is bad enough, taking him out of the whole series would be a disaster.
Finally some common sense.
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3/21/2019 6:02am
tek14 wrote:
What if Web or Musquin gets hurt... or both.
Then they still have Baggett..

If only Cairoli gets injured, they won't be able to take any wins in MXGP and will have to look at Honda, Kawasaki or whatever Japanese brand to take the wins away. (don't see Coldenhoff or Anstie or the Husky boys winning...).
So I completely understand their decision. And besides that, it's Herlings so you never know what's gonna happen. He might just show up at Valkenswaard.....
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3/21/2019 6:02am Edited Date/Time 3/21/2019 6:03am
From Beirer himself - “He’s under contract to race in Europe and I’m not enthusiastic about this American story because we have a fantastic team with fantastic riders in the USA,” Beirer told Wheeler recently at the MotoGP race in Qatar. “Without Jeffrey we don’t have a full line-up in MXGP and we’d already made all these cosmetic changes with Pauls Jonass moving to [Rockstar Energy] IceOne [Husqvarna]. It is always good to have a back-up and a minimum of two top riders so I’m not super-happy about him going to America.
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Beeby wrote:
KTM is a business first and a race team second. They have sponsor commitments, sponsors that signed up this year to support the reigning world champion...
KTM is a business first and a race team second. They have sponsor commitments, sponsors that signed up this year to support the reigning world champion in the MXGP. His absence from the races that he is missing is bad enough, taking him out of the whole series would be a disaster.
You could argue that he would get more attention by racing marvin tomac roczen and webb though. All those guys are on cairoli and herlings level
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