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Edited Date/Time 1/10/2015 5:29pm
Will the 2015 KTM two smokers have the updated chassis and body work? I was wondering if any of the insiders have heard anything...
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Olson 1/7/2015 6:15pm
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Do you mean 2016? The 2015 bike is already released. I've seen spy photos of 125s with the same chassi as the 2015FE version. If that confirms anything I'm not sure of.
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Falcon 1/7/2015 9:46pm
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DI 2 stroke = broken internet.
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reded 1/8/2015 3:12am
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Falcon wrote:
DI 2 stroke = broken internet.
i just hope it doesn't equal broken wallet.

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BobPA 1/8/2015 8:39am
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Yes I meant the 2016
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Markee 1/8/2015 8:41am
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Falcon wrote:
DI 2 stroke = broken internet.
reded wrote:
i just hope it doesn't equal broken wallet.
Or weight 10lbs.
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peelout 1/8/2015 8:44am
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i heard from a little birdie that the 2016 250SX will be DI, if it were me i would try to get a cheap 2014 or wait for the '16
rocketsocks26 1/8/2015 8:51am
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I wouldnt run and buy 1 if it is D I, sounds great, but I would be interested totally, but wouldnt wanna go backwards for it, if its great im all in lol, I dont know how much more weight u can lose on the 250sx, but the new layout and a fe model smoker would b bananas!
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rippaaa 1/8/2015 9:08am
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Aluminum frames aren't better than steel frames. It is not considered an advancement of any sort just a different design. Carb to DI is an advancement.
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rippaaa 1/8/2015 9:17am
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Cheaper to manufacturer is why the big 4 have them
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FGR01 1/8/2015 9:21am
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rippaaa wrote:
Aluminum frames aren't better than steel frames. It is not considered an advancement of any sort just a different design. Carb to DI is an advancement.
I have the pretty much the exact opposite opinion. Some people might prefer the feel of a steel frame but in the long term they rust, fatigue, and crack (more than aluminum it seems) and they need to be painted or powder coated.

I do not consider FI an "improvement" on a dirt bike. 95% of dirt bike riders are better off with a carb whether they admit it or not. FI can be an expensive, complicated PITA on a dirtbike.
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Flesh206 1/8/2015 9:26am
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I must be behind the pace still, and I thought I was catching up when I bought my 2013 sx a month ago. I just sold my 2007 which I bought new and sold it for $2800. I got the 2013 for $4800 which had 9.9 hrs on the hour meter...the guyhad to of been in his sixties said it was time for him to hang up the boots.





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rippaaa 1/8/2015 9:27am
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rippaaa wrote:
Aluminum frames aren't better than steel frames. It is not considered an advancement of any sort just a different design. Carb to DI is an advancement.
FGR01 wrote:
I have the pretty much the exact opposite opinion. Some people might prefer the feel of a steel frame but in the long term they rust...
I have the pretty much the exact opposite opinion. Some people might prefer the feel of a steel frame but in the long term they rust, fatigue, and crack (more than aluminum it seems) and they need to be painted or powder coated.

I do not consider FI an "improvement" on a dirt bike. 95% of dirt bike riders are better off with a carb whether they admit it or not. FI can be an expensive, complicated PITA on a dirtbike.
Steel frames last longer than aluminum, stronger and can be repaired. Aluminum frames are the ones that fatigue and so on. The steel frames that are cracking are the ones from early 2000s with 500+ hours on them and if you had an aluminum frame in that exact scenario it would do the exact same thing. + i see alot of aluminum frames cracking tbh people come here with new frames all the time saying they need a swap.. i havent gotten a steel frame that needed to be swapped yet
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FGR01 1/8/2015 9:35am
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rippaaa wrote:
Steel frames last longer than aluminum, stronger and can be repaired. Aluminum frames are the ones that fatigue and so on. The steel frames that are...
Steel frames last longer than aluminum, stronger and can be repaired. Aluminum frames are the ones that fatigue and so on. The steel frames that are cracking are the ones from early 2000s with 500+ hours on them and if you had an aluminum frame in that exact scenario it would do the exact same thing. + i see alot of aluminum frames cracking tbh people come here with new frames all the time saying they need a swap.. i havent gotten a steel frame that needed to be swapped yet
35 yrs of riding MX tells me different. Had to get many steel frames welded. Always had to remove rust/repaint, etc. Never once had to have an aluminum one fixed. I currently have a 2005 and two 2006's I'm riding on aluminum frames with zero probs. As far as fatigue, someone cue up the picture of the pile of stretched steel KX frames at RC's farm.
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reded 1/8/2015 9:39am
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I'll start worrying about stretching a steel frame as soon as I'm as fast as RC...at his current weight.
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rippaaa 1/8/2015 9:54am
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reded wrote:
I'll start worrying about stretching a steel frame as soon as I'm as fast as RC...at his current weight.
Exactly lmao

I would assume RC puts more stress on his frame than me
benchracermx 1/8/2015 9:56am
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reded wrote:
I'll start worrying about stretching a steel frame as soon as I'm as fast as RC...at his current weight.
I am a big ktm fan but I hate to say my 2011 frame cracked in 2 separate areas and my friends 350 also cracked!

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rippaaa 1/8/2015 9:59am
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reded wrote:
I'll start worrying about stretching a steel frame as soon as I'm as fast as RC...at his current weight.
benchracermx wrote:
I am a big ktm fan but I hate to say my 2011 frame cracked in 2 separate areas and my friends 350 also cracked!
How hard did you case whatever you cased lol
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yak651 1/8/2015 10:01am
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Flesh206 wrote:
I must be behind the pace still, and I thought I was catching up when I bought my 2013 sx a month ago. I just sold...
I must be behind the pace still, and I thought I was catching up when I bought my 2013 sx a month ago. I just sold my 2007 which I bought new and sold it for $2800. I got the 2013 for $4800 which had 9.9 hrs on the hour meter...the guyhad to of been in his sixties said it was time for him to hang up the boots.





This is the way to do it. Clean used low hour bikes, my last 4 bikes were used but in like new condition for $1,000's less than new.
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Micahdogg 1/8/2015 10:09am
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Other than aluminum not rusting, it makes no sense. All frames fatigue, but steel can do it over and over again. Aluminum has almost no fatigue rating which is why they are more prone to snapping, while steel will bend. You need more aluminum to match the strength of steel too - which is why the frames are so bulky. Honestly, as cluttered as a four stroke bay is, it would make more sense to use steel frames so you can run much thinner spars and actually have room to work. Steel frame spars with a 2 stroke give gobs of room to work, which is on of the nicest features.

Pro steel here!
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Markee 1/8/2015 10:18am
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I damn sure don't want a e start on a two stroke. First kick every time on mine.
benchracermx 1/8/2015 10:52am
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reded wrote:
I'll start worrying about stretching a steel frame as soon as I'm as fast as RC...at his current weight.
benchracermx wrote:
I am a big ktm fan but I hate to say my 2011 frame cracked in 2 separate areas and my friends 350 also cracked!
rippaaa wrote:
How hard did you case whatever you cased lol
Haha no nothing like that... Just normal wear and tear I guess
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rippaaa 1/8/2015 11:16am
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benchracermx wrote:
I am a big ktm fan but I hate to say my 2011 frame cracked in 2 separate areas and my friends 350 also cracked!
rippaaa wrote:
How hard did you case whatever you cased lol
benchracermx wrote:
Haha no nothing like that... Just normal wear and tear I guess
Wear and tear cracked a frame? hmmm..
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BobPA 1/8/2015 11:34am
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reded wrote:
I'll start worrying about stretching a steel frame as soon as I'm as fast as RC...at his current weight.
benchracermx wrote:
I am a big ktm fan but I hate to say my 2011 frame cracked in 2 separate areas and my friends 350 also cracked!
Pics or it didn't happen...
benchracermx 1/8/2015 11:37am
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rippaaa wrote:
How hard did you case whatever you cased lol
benchracermx wrote:
Haha no nothing like that... Just normal wear and tear I guess
rippaaa wrote:
Wear and tear cracked a frame? hmmm..
Hmmm wot, if u tell me how to up load pics from my iPhone to this I still have a pic of one of the cracks
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BobPA 1/8/2015 12:51pm
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benchracermx wrote:
Hmmm wot, if u tell me how to up load pics from my iPhone to this I still have a pic of one of the cracks
Upload the photos to photobucket or any photo hosting site. Then copy and paste the image "img" code into the reply section in this thread.
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dmac1 1/8/2015 3:40pm
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Markee wrote:
I damn sure don't want a e start on a two stroke. First kick every time on mine.
Ever hafta get the bike restarted from a precarious position in which you can't lift a foot off the ground? i'm guessing not. If you had, you'd know why the button is sooo nice.
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ACBraap 1/8/2015 5:01pm
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Markee wrote:
I damn sure don't want a e start on a two stroke. First kick every time on mine.
dmac1 wrote:
Ever hafta get the bike restarted from a precarious position in which you can't lift a foot off the ground? i'm guessing not. If you had...
Ever hafta get the bike restarted from a precarious position in which you can't lift a foot off the ground? i'm guessing not. If you had, you'd know why the button is sooo nice.
Or do an offroad race with a dead engine start. Seems like the estart guys are cheating...

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