KTM /Husqvarna

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Obviously,judging by the results of the first moto, they will never be able to compete with the Japanese brands in SX. Oh.......wait
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TheOriginalPancakee 10/14/2017 7:43pm
10/14/2017 7:43pm
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
mikebrownsound 10/14/2017 7:59pm
10/14/2017 7:59pm
TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
amen.!
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Bramlett321 10/14/2017 8:15pm
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just James wrote:
Obviously,judging by the results of the first moto, they will never be able to compete with the Japanese brands in SX. Oh.......wait
Man they just said that KTM/Husky have been 1,2,3,4,5 both races , that's impressive!!
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BobPA 10/14/2017 8:17pm
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
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Zesiger 112 10/14/2017 10:27pm
10/14/2017 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 10/14/2017 10:29pm
TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine components are stock. And unlike other manufactures you can buy the exact race parts from ktm if you have the money. And the bike is so light to begin with that their bikes aren't dramatically lighter than stock.

Take away the bling and strength items, wheels, brakes, triple clamps, you would be left with just engine and suspension to equal a factory level bike. No so with other brands.
fullysicmate 10/14/2017 10:37pm
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If tomac had one he would be 2017 sx champ. If Tomac had one he wouldnt have axed himself trying to chase Marv tonight....My opinion anyway..
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kiwifan 10/15/2017 12:25am
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
yup !!
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kiwifan 10/15/2017 12:28am
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
Zesiger 112 wrote:
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine...
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine components are stock. And unlike other manufactures you can buy the exact race parts from ktm if you have the money. And the bike is so light to begin with that their bikes aren't dramatically lighter than stock.

Take away the bling and strength items, wheels, brakes, triple clamps, you would be left with just engine and suspension to equal a factory level bike. No so with other brands.
so you say all the other brands are much less stock than KTMs, do you rip all factory brands apart to know they are not stock or are stock? c'mon dude!!!!
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downard254 10/15/2017 5:21am
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I think in ‘84, Rick Johnson’s YZ250 was much more stock than Ron Lechein’s RC250, same goes for Broc Glover’s ‘85 air cooled YZ490 vs David Bailey’s RC500. Pretty sure talent plays a little part.
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c3011 10/15/2017 5:55am
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Was JB51 the highest placing rider not on a ktm/husky?
Squirrelings 10/15/2017 5:56am
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine...
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine components are stock. And unlike other manufactures you can buy the exact race parts from ktm if you have the money. And the bike is so light to begin with that their bikes aren't dramatically lighter than stock.

Take away the bling and strength items, wheels, brakes, triple clamps, you would be left with just engine and suspension to equal a factory level bike. No so with other brands.
There is no stock counterpart to the KTM / Husqvarna bikes they raced at MEC last night which you can even purchase, so that makes absolutely no sense.
GeorgiePorgie 10/15/2017 6:32am
10/15/2017 6:32am
c3011 wrote:
Was JB51 the highest placing rider not on a ktm/husky?
That wasn't factory...important tidbit.
m.hardesty16 10/15/2017 7:04am
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These bikes are factory and everyone who isn’t an ignoramus knows its the rider, not the bike.
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just James 10/15/2017 7:31am
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Simply a coincidence that they(KTM /Husqvarna) consistently placed so high in the finishing order.
All of the brands are equal.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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mingham97 10/15/2017 7:34am
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine...
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine components are stock. And unlike other manufactures you can buy the exact race parts from ktm if you have the money. And the bike is so light to begin with that their bikes aren't dramatically lighter than stock.

Take away the bling and strength items, wheels, brakes, triple clamps, you would be left with just engine and suspension to equal a factory level bike. No so with other brands.
Squirrelings wrote:
There is no stock counterpart to the KTM / Husqvarna bikes they raced at MEC last night which you can even purchase, so that makes absolutely...
There is no stock counterpart to the KTM / Husqvarna bikes they raced at MEC last night which you can even purchase, so that makes absolutely no sense.
We will have this conversation in 10 weeks and you will be wrong. Zesiger is mostly correct
Squirrelings 10/15/2017 7:36am
10/15/2017 7:36am
just James wrote:
Simply a coincidence that they(KTM /Husqvarna) consistently placed so high in the finishing order. All of the brands are equal. Nothing to see here folks, move...
Simply a coincidence that they(KTM /Husqvarna) consistently placed so high in the finishing order.
All of the brands are equal.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
KTM / Husqvarna employ the most top riders. They invest the most money in the sport of all the manufacturers. They make a good product, but it's not the bike that is winning the races. If you can't see that, then you are just an orange and white fan boy.
Squirrelings 10/15/2017 7:37am
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mingham97 wrote:
We will have this conversation in 10 weeks and you will be wrong. Zesiger is mostly correct
Right now isn't ten weeks from now then, is it?
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mingham97 10/15/2017 7:49am
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mingham97 wrote:
We will have this conversation in 10 weeks and you will be wrong. Zesiger is mostly correct
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Right now isn't ten weeks from now then, is it?
Youve missed the point i think mate

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just James 10/15/2017 8:08am
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Squirrelings wrote:
KTM / Husqvarna employ the most top riders. They invest the most money in the sport of all the manufacturers. They make a good product, but...
KTM / Husqvarna employ the most top riders. They invest the most money in the sport of all the manufacturers. They make a good product, but it's not the bike that is winning the races. If you can't see that, then you are just an orange and white fan boy.
Yes, my brand of choice is KTM. However, I would gladly admit if some other brand had clearly dominated the event.
Squirrelings 10/15/2017 8:16am
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Yes, my brand of choice is KTM. However, I would gladly admit if some other brand had clearly dominated the event.
What exactly is the point of this thread again?
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Tim507 10/15/2017 9:01am
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Zesiger 112 wrote:
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine...
Actually the ktms are very similar to stock compared to the other manufactures. Mxa said in a test of dungeys bike many of the internal engine components are stock. And unlike other manufactures you can buy the exact race parts from ktm if you have the money. And the bike is so light to begin with that their bikes aren't dramatically lighter than stock.

Take away the bling and strength items, wheels, brakes, triple clamps, you would be left with just engine and suspension to equal a factory level bike. No so with other brands.
Squirrelings wrote:
There is no stock counterpart to the KTM / Husqvarna bikes they raced at MEC last night which you can even purchase, so that makes absolutely...
There is no stock counterpart to the KTM / Husqvarna bikes they raced at MEC last night which you can even purchase, so that makes absolutely no sense.
mingham97 wrote:
We will have this conversation in 10 weeks and you will be wrong. Zesiger is mostly correct
For the most part this is the 18.5 FE. SX has to be a "stock" base bike available to the public. We will see a new shock that's clear and it might be a Trax, but certainly not that Factory Shock. Same for the forks, more than likely 48 AER (Cone up grade - perhaps) as KTM needs to step it up a bit.

Nice product and I do think this will Moto!
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racer495a 10/15/2017 9:33am
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
BobPA wrote:
True dat
I think cooper would argue this point. The yamaha reverse engine screws up the handling. The 18 may be better but I doubt he sticks around blue after his contract expires.
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deluxeman 10/16/2017 9:04am
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KTM/ Husky has Aldon Baker...........

Kawasaki has a young man trying to earn a degree in excavation whenever he gets passed by an orange bike.
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crusty_xx 10/16/2017 9:09am
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TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated...
Why does it matter what brand bike wins? These bikes are no where close to a stock bike. Kenny killed everyone on that “old out dated Suzuki”
You should have told that to Barcia. He seems to think that the brand does make a difference so he switched back to Honda after struggling with Suzuki and Yamaha.
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c0ncEpT 10/16/2017 9:10am
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racer495a wrote:
I think cooper would argue this point. The yamaha reverse engine screws up the handling. The 18 may be better but I doubt he sticks around...
I think cooper would argue this point. The yamaha reverse engine screws up the handling. The 18 may be better but I doubt he sticks around blue after his contract expires.
So screwed up that it won the 250 championship 3 out of the last 4 years since its release.
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BobPA 10/16/2017 9:19am
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racer495a wrote:
I think cooper would argue this point. The yamaha reverse engine screws up the handling. The 18 may be better but I doubt he sticks around...
I think cooper would argue this point. The yamaha reverse engine screws up the handling. The 18 may be better but I doubt he sticks around blue after his contract expires.
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So screwed up that it won the 250 championship 3 out of the last 4 years since its release.
250's bro. You have to admit that it sure seems that the design has its flaws with the big bike. Maybe not at the AM level, but pros seem to struggle with it.

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