KTM 500XCW, KTM690 Enduro, or Husky701 Enduro?

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5/5/2016 1:21 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 1:24 PM

hey bros, anyone ridden both or either?

i'm looking at them to do for a long distance adventure style bike (Baja, Colorado, Alaska, etc). i was pretty bummed when i went and looked at them today, the $11000 price tags gave me a Fearection. the price tag is enough to make me want to send Meg back to the strip club so i don't have to double mortgage the trailer.

anyway, any thoughts or opinions are very appreciated.

i'm leaning towards the KTM 500, but that 701cc is very appealing. the KTM 690 looks sweet too, but i feel the 690 and 701 may be a little too MUCH bike? how do they handle single track? also, my 5gallon tank will bolt right on the 500, but can you get bigger tanks for the 690 and 701? i need at least 5 gallons.


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5/5/2016 1:25 PM

I haven't ridden any of them, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But from talking to people who own, and ride these bikes. The 500 is great, but get the 690 if you plan on long highway streches.

The 500 is more of a dual sport bike, where the 690 is more of an adventure bike.

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5/5/2016 1:26 PM

I have yet to ride any of these bikes but I have been in the same market for the same reasons. I do think the 690 and 701 would be a bit much for single track though. I don't think power/suspension would be the issue over weight and just overall bulkiness. I am leaning more towards the Husky FE501s and a good soft bag set up. Either way you really cant go wrong, all are beautiful machines.

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5/5/2016 1:27 PM

Peels It - Get a KTM 500 XC with Linkage and make it street legal or better yet get the Husky 501 as it has linkage.

I looked long and hard at the 701 and the 500/501 is the bike. I just sold my 2012 XC500 (made street legal) with PDS.

It was a an awesome bike.....great in the tight stuff, in the mountains (Rekluce and trials tire) and a great DS bike.

Soon I will get the Husky 501....not the Husky 701

The 701 and or the 690 have their place....you just cannot beat the 500silly laughing

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5/5/2016 1:28 PM

that's a good point about the difference between dual sport and adventure. i guess i'd have to decide which i'll be doing more on this bike and go from there. this would be my Mexico bike for years to come, so maybe the 500 would be the ticket, though we've done stretches of 100 miles plus and that's just not fun on a dirt specific bike like my 300 or even a 450.

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5/5/2016 1:28 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 1:31 PM

I've had the chance to ride the 690 in supermoto form. Best bike I've ever ridden. Based on what I've read on them and the people I've talked to that bought them they are more reliable than any 450 or 500. Checking the valves is a hassle and oil changes are pricey but that's the biggest complaints. And although the price tag is scary high they maintain their value. My friend bought one new in 2011 for just under 11k, put 6,500 miles on it and resold it a few months ago for $8,500. I'm personally saving for the 701 right now because they sell a sm version.

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5/5/2016 1:28 PM

colintrax wrote:

I haven't ridden any of them, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But from talking to people who own, and ride these ...more

Yes that is a good point. If you plan on doing more than maybe 30 to 40 miles a day on pavement than the 690/701 would be the way to go. Way lighter and off road oriented than say the bigger adventure bikes but with the proper set up can be just as good as the big boys.

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5/5/2016 1:31 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 1:33 PM

Tim507 wrote:

Peels It - Get a KTM 500 XC with Linkage and make it street legal or better yet get the Husky 501 as it has linkage.

I looked ...more

they had the Husky there too but i didn't realize the Husky had the linkage. sweet bikes. why did you sell your XC500? just ready for an upgrade? i've heard that they're awesome trail bikes but can still handle the fast long dirt roads well too. i need a do it all bike and while i love my 300, it's just not comfortable on 100+ mile rides for days at a time.

i'll need something comfortable on stretches of highway and dirt roads that will still handle the more technical stuff well, which i why i was looking at the 701. all the videos i've watched about them, they seem to do everything well. i'll still have my 300 for the tight mountain stuff, but this would be for the bigger longer harder stuff.

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5/5/2016 1:49 PM

The 690 and 701 are very similar, big boys bikes, tall-ish seats and most certainly not the type of bike you want to be falling off and having to pick up much.

If i was buying , id be using it as a road toy, and would buy the 701, it looks great , but for any type of offroad , id go with the 500.. its designed for off road, you can pick it up unassisted, and i reckon geared and ridden right , it will go anywhere.

i would say the fact that you have a 300, means that maybe the 500 will be too similar , in terms of what it will do , the 701 will have very long legs on the highway compared to the 500

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5/5/2016 1:52 PM

peelout wrote:

that's a good point about the difference between dual sport and adventure. i guess i'd have to decide which i'll be doing more ...more

Maybe buy a used bike to see what kinda of riding you end up doing? What we plan on doing, and what actually occurs isn't always the same thing. That 100 mile highway ride to the trailhead may not sound bad until you do it. That gnarly singletrack might not be so gnarly.

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5/5/2016 1:54 PM

Bro, just come out and say you're looking to buy a cr125, it's all right bro this is a safe place. . .

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5/5/2016 1:56 PM

JM485 wrote:

Bro, just come out and say you're looking to buy a cr125, it's all right bro this is a safe place. . .

lmao

if i never ride one of those again then it will be too soon

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5/5/2016 1:56 PM

I sold my 500 to my oldest son...he has a young family and wanted a bike (he has been riding for years) and could not afford to get one - So dad financed itsilly Glad I did. A 501 is in my future...IMHO linkage is better than PDS

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5/5/2016 1:59 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 2:01 PM

I have the 500 EXC and I absolutely love it. It can be a bit of a handful in really rugged wet single track, and it isn't the best for cruising down the interstate! But for an all around street legal go just about anywhere dirt bike it really cant be beat!

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5/5/2016 2:04 PM

I have ridden the 500 but not the 690/701.

IMO-

The 500 will be fine for the highway stretches you'll do in Baja since they're generally slower. In the states it would get old after 30 miles.

On the flip side-

I think the 690/701 will do better in the single track than you think. Like a XR 650 but probably better. Speculation but that's my assumption. I've thought about getting one of these for Baja myself, some singletrack trails might be tough (near RSV and some in the Catavina area), but I think I could swing it.

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5/5/2016 2:17 PM

I just bought a 16 KTM Enduro 690. Imo its heavy for the woods. Don't get me wrong you can trail ride all day on it but to really put the hammer down, its alot. The torque was surprising the first time I rode it, not like my 450 but not that far off. Which is crazy because these things come so choked from the factory it's insane.

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5/5/2016 2:39 PM

Maddeh wrote:

I have ridden the 500 but not the 690/701.

IMO-

The 500 will be fine for the highway stretches you'll do in Baja since ...more

thanks for the input. a few of the guys i ride Baja with are on 650's and they prefer them down there, even for the tighter single track we get into. but the single track down there is a lot different that up here.

i'm thinking the 500 or the Husky 501 would be the right bike for me, still handle ok on the highway and high-speed dirt roads but be good on the rough fast and the single track.

the 690 or 701 would be awesome to try out though, especially for the longer distance stuff i want to do up here.

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5/5/2016 2:51 PM

If you're looking for a true long distance Baja/Alaska/CO bike then you are not looking at the right machine. Go big. You need a twin powered time traveling machine. Adam will tell you ...


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5/5/2016 2:51 PM

Why are you riding pavement in Baja? blink

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5/5/2016 2:54 PM

Peely, I think you're on the right track. I just got back from a week in Baja. I was on my Moto Guzzi Stelvio, the guy I was with was on a 690, well set up and plenty of experience on it. Didn't do any singletrack down there, come on a 600 lb adventure bike............. The 690 was great for the long stretches of pavement and able to cruise along at mucho legal speeds all day, but he really kicked ass on the sandy dirt stretches. We did the Luna Diablo dry lake bed, and the sandy road out to San Felipe, as well as the road from Bahia De Los Angeles to San Francesquito through El Arco to Vezcaino. That 690 gobbled that shit up! My girl was in over her head, the deep sand was a big challenge, but on the pavement it shined!

Having said that, I wished for many miles that I was on my 450. The terrain down there just screamed for a lighter more nimble bike. Spend some time and $$$ setting up the seating and comfort items, and don't look back. The new 500's (both Husky and Ktm) are fanstastic. Lot's of set up ideas at bestdualsports.com

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5/5/2016 3:03 PM

Peelout, do you want 700cc in this situation?
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5/5/2016 3:14 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 3:18 PM

Xeno wrote:

Peelout, do you want 700cc in this situation?
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while i don't think the 700 would be perfect i don't think it would be horrible. my last trip i was on a 450 and i loved it but i really don't want to get a 450. the guys on 650's never had an issue in the stuff like you pictured.

i'm just trying to find a happy balance. the 500 or 501 is probably the ticket, i'm not a huge dude (6'2 and 160) so the bigger bikes might be a struggle. like UTrider said, the big bike would be great in areas but that lighter 450 was awesome down there so maybe the 500 or 501.

my 300 ate this shit up but really struggled on the long distance dirt roads and especially on the highway. and Xeno, i don't prefer highway but sometimes you gotta grind the pavement down there. the main thing is Baja is such a small part of my yearly riding so i don't want a Baja specific ride. i want something that will kick ass down there, but handle everything i throw at it up here. single track, dirt roads, and some highway here and there to transfer to the next area.

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5/5/2016 3:26 PM

Did anyone else see the video at the bottom of the OP's initial post or did someone put something in my drink?

LMFAO, ROFLOL, EYES WATERING IM LAUGHING SO HARD, STOMACH HURTS IM LAUGHING SO HARD, GF THINKS IM INSANE IM LAUGHING SO HARD, ETC

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5/5/2016 3:58 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 4:05 PM

XR-650 and use the left over cash for more riding days.
Edit: I see your comment about the single track in Utah being different
than in Baja so maybe I'm not sure.

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5/5/2016 5:11 PM

Peelout how are you going to save the whales if you can't pick-up your motorcycle?

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5/5/2016 5:17 PM

I ride in Baja a little bit.

On a 350.

In '17 I will be getting the "New" FE501.

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5/5/2016 6:25 PM

On both the 690 and the 701 the fuel tank in integrated into the rear fender and under the seat. You can't put a bigger tank on them, you have to add additional tanks. Its expensive and makes the bikes even bulkier.

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5/5/2016 6:44 PM
Edited Date/Time: 5/5/2016 6:45 PM

Krazyk2774 wrote:

I have the 500 EXC and I absolutely love it. It can be a bit of a handful in really rugged wet single track, and it isn't the ...more

Yep I have a '13 500exc for trail riding and work commute (4 miles all under 35 mph roads). As stated above, I wouldn't want to ride it on the highway more than 30 miles unless absolutely necessary. But I'm also kind of a wuss when it comes to that stuff.

I also looked at a 690 before I bought it. I would suggest watching some go-pro videos of people trail riding one first and see if you think it will work for what you want to do. I get the feeling you're probably a pretty decent rider so maybe you can haul ass on it. Keep in mind the turning radius, frame, and the bike in general is not like an xr650, I would not expect it to perform like one off-road.

Tough decision, I concluded for me there really is no perfect "do everything well" dual sport bike. Just depends what you want to do.

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5/5/2016 6:50 PM

Dude... lose the vagina and drop a set of balls! Get an 1190 Adventure or nothing at all!!

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5/5/2016 6:57 PM

AbouttheRide wrote:

I have yet to ride any of these bikes but I have been in the same market for the same reasons. I do think the 690 and 701 ...more

I purchased the 2016 Husky FE 501 S about 3 weeks ago. I have not ridden it offroad yet.

I originally was debating between the Husky 701, the KTM 690 Enduro and the FE 501S. So I then narrowed it down to either of they Huskys, but it took forever for California to get the Husky 701 due to some sort of emissions problems and the maping.

After hearing a few rumors regarding the 3 bikes I decided on the 501 S

I love camping and fishing just as much as desert riding, and so do my girlfriend so since the 701 was more passenger friendly than the 501 S I wanted the 701. But No dealers here in Cali had them. Also one day we were out at a major dealership looking at them, and I saw a new KTM Adventure 1190R for $16,000.00 and the KTM 690 enduro was priced at almost $12,000. So I figured the 690 and the 701 prices were getting close to the prices of a "REAL" adventure bike, and since I do eventually want a "REAL" adventure bike, I decided to wait on the 701 or 690 and get a "REAL" adventure bike in a couple years from now, since I will most likely be retired near that time, and would have more time to actually do some real long distance adventure rides. Also I got the 501 over a 350 in case I need to ride a passenger. I need to find passenger pegs for the 501 though

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