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Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that would be ridiculous on an amateur bike so even worse on a factory bike, but mistakes happen. Just curious. Thanks
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langhammx 10/16/2016 8:15pm
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that...
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that would be ridiculous on an amateur bike so even worse on a factory bike, but mistakes happen. Just curious. Thanks
It happened before the crash. They had to bump start it before the Moto.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 10/16/2016 8:17pm
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that...
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that would be ridiculous on an amateur bike so even worse on a factory bike, but mistakes happen. Just curious. Thanks
langhammx wrote:
It happened before the crash. They had to bump start it before the Moto.
Oh crazy. I thought the bike smashed the start button when it was flipping.
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that...
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that would be ridiculous on an amateur bike so even worse on a factory bike, but mistakes happen. Just curious. Thanks
langhammx wrote:
It happened before the crash. They had to bump start it before the Moto.
Really, that's insane on a factory bike, but as with anything mechanical it can always break even if you take every precaution.
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bvm111 10/16/2016 8:25pm
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I did mention in the stands that I wondered if it cut out causing the miss timing of the section and ultimately the endo but, I think he messed the corner up and just threw his timing off.

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langhammx 10/16/2016 8:38pm
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that...
Has anyone commented on why the Honda wouldn't fire up after that yard sale?? My thoughts were a battery cable may have come loose but that would be ridiculous on an amateur bike so even worse on a factory bike, but mistakes happen. Just curious. Thanks
langhammx wrote:
It happened before the crash. They had to bump start it before the Moto.
CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Oh crazy. I thought the bike smashed the start button when it was flipping.
I saw this post on another forum and talked to someone that confirmed it, but I guess I should have said that it was a rumor.... Lol

Maybe someone here can confirm or deny, but I was told the starter on his bike wasn't working before the race, and the mechanics were seen bump starting it on the way to the starting gate.
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kiwifan 10/16/2016 8:46pm
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Thread title says bike issues but it is one issue....as for the real cause we may never know, perhaps the battery wasnt holding the charge? Or there was some faulty wiring somewhere ....isnt speculation fun? Smile
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Adam43 10/16/2016 9:23pm
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Starting issue aside, that bike looked to be working beautifully out there. Seems pretty clear they've got the rid of the chassis twitch of the last 7 years.
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The Bob 10/16/2016 9:48pm
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They did mention he was late to the gate for moto 2, guessing the starter was the reason why. Didn't put two and two together until reading this. Barely saw him try to start it after the crash, but I guess a flip of a button could be hard to see.
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ML512 10/16/2016 9:59pm
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bvm111 wrote:
I did mention in the stands that I wondered if it cut out causing the miss timing of the section and ultimately the endo but, I...
I did mention in the stands that I wondered if it cut out causing the miss timing of the section and ultimately the endo but, I think he messed the corner up and just threw his timing off.
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a little weird and short it.
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avidchimp 10/16/2016 10:37pm
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ML512 wrote:
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a...
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a little weird and short it.
He OJ'd it for sure, but that bike practically came to a stop.
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Lightning78 10/16/2016 10:40pm
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They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its gonna bite him in the ass this year
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langhammx 10/16/2016 10:51pm
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Lightning78 wrote:
They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its...
They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its gonna bite him in the ass this year
It might.
But he didn't have any problems with the KTM. I'm sure they'll get it straightened out.
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IceMan446 10/16/2016 11:08pm
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ML512 wrote:
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a...
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a little weird and short it.
avidchimp wrote:
He OJ'd it for sure, but that bike practically came to a stop.
The bike wasn't the problem.

Rider error all the way.

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IceMan446 10/16/2016 11:09pm
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Lightning78 wrote:
They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its...
They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its gonna bite him in the ass this year
It bit Dungey on the KTM once before. Hasn't happened since.

He will be just fine.
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TMV 10/16/2016 11:27pm
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Lightning78 wrote:
They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its...
They had to BUMP START yhe bike amdhe coyldntbget the bike to "start" after the crash???? Good thing that bike didnt have a kickstarter right??? Its gonna bite him in the ass this year
Never happens with a bike with a kickstarter, never...

https://youtu.be/q6ar3c2y80A

I can find hundreds of vids of pro riders kicking like crazy after, throwing up in their helmets with poor result, not much about guys with the magic button (Yamaha and Honda in GP, KTM and Husky on both sides). However, they're quite a lot of vids of them crashing then starting the bike quickly without dropping a single drop of sweat.

BTW, this moto was heroic. First this, then the shifting by hand over the triple at MEC, much much respect for Ryan!
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#1 kroc 10/17/2016 6:30am
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ML512 wrote:
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a...
He overshot the first triple in his segment, landing into the transition for the next jump, loading the rear heavily and causing him to pop a little weird and short it.
avidchimp wrote:
He OJ'd it for sure, but that bike practically came to a stop.
IceMan446 wrote:
The bike wasn't the problem.

Rider error all the way.

Yeh the bike wasn't the problem in the outdoors that's why he waxed all you yankies at your own game on your own tracks bro
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BobPA 10/17/2016 6:57am
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#1 kroc wrote:
Yeh the bike wasn't the problem in the outdoors that's why he waxed all you yankies at your own game on your own tracks bro
That is some unprovoked douchebaggery right there.

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yak651 10/17/2016 7:02am
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avidchimp wrote:
He OJ'd it for sure, but that bike practically came to a stop.
IceMan446 wrote:
The bike wasn't the problem.

Rider error all the way.

#1 kroc wrote:
Yeh the bike wasn't the problem in the outdoors that's why he waxed all you yankies at your own game on your own tracks bro
See Kenny made it home from Vegas!Tongue
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kopfjaeger 10/17/2016 7:53am
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Wow! You would think some of you guys are his little sisters or something. I asked a serious question about the bike not starting because I wonder what issues Honda could have with the new bikes before i get one and yall act like someone attacked the rider. Yall need to lighten the hell up and go ride. Get out from behind the keyboards for a bit. Thanks for the serious replies from those of you that made them. I look forward to maybe hearing what actually was wrong with the ignition since bike problems is apparently to broad of a term for some people. And FYI i race a Honda as do my son and wife
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GPrider 10/17/2016 8:08am
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I wouldn't worry about it. Its an electric starter. If it turns out there is an issue with it it will be addressed before we can ever get our hands on it anyway. Remember, the R doesn't come with ES, only the RX. And that bike is at least two months away before you can even buy one. And the ES kit is rumored not to be available for purchase till after the first of the year. So, who cares at this point.
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kiwifan 10/17/2016 1:34pm
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Wow! You would think some of you guys are his little sisters or something. I asked a serious question about the bike not starting because I...
Wow! You would think some of you guys are his little sisters or something. I asked a serious question about the bike not starting because I wonder what issues Honda could have with the new bikes before i get one and yall act like someone attacked the rider. Yall need to lighten the hell up and go ride. Get out from behind the keyboards for a bit. Thanks for the serious replies from those of you that made them. I look forward to maybe hearing what actually was wrong with the ignition since bike problems is apparently to broad of a term for some people. And FYI i race a Honda as do my son and wife
Perhaps you should then re-title your thread to "Does the new 2017 Honda have issues" ...a issue with a factory bike does not automatically mean there is an issue with the production bike...lets wait until the ride reviews before making any judgements...which I believe are this weekend...yes ML?
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kopfjaeger wrote:
Wow! You would think some of you guys are his little sisters or something. I asked a serious question about the bike not starting because I...
Wow! You would think some of you guys are his little sisters or something. I asked a serious question about the bike not starting because I wonder what issues Honda could have with the new bikes before i get one and yall act like someone attacked the rider. Yall need to lighten the hell up and go ride. Get out from behind the keyboards for a bit. Thanks for the serious replies from those of you that made them. I look forward to maybe hearing what actually was wrong with the ignition since bike problems is apparently to broad of a term for some people. And FYI i race a Honda as do my son and wife
kiwifan wrote:
Perhaps you should then re-title your thread to "Does the new 2017 Honda have issues" ...a issue with a factory bike does not automatically mean there...
Perhaps you should then re-title your thread to "Does the new 2017 Honda have issues" ...a issue with a factory bike does not automatically mean there is an issue with the production bike...lets wait until the ride reviews before making any judgements...which I believe are this weekend...yes ML?
I believe it's Wednesday
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Old&New 10/17/2016 4:24pm
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For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol

The damn things are $8849 plus $695 for estart and $300 labor for estart installation. After tax its $10,068 out the door. And that's if you can find one. Every dealer is sold out. This is without hydro clutch, holeshot device, hour meter,etc. Plus the bike is 15lbs heavier than the KTM. No deals to be found on this bike.

Kx125rider 10/17/2016 4:53pm
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Old&New wrote:
For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol The damn things are $8849 plus...
For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol

The damn things are $8849 plus $695 for estart and $300 labor for estart installation. After tax its $10,068 out the door. And that's if you can find one. Every dealer is sold out. This is without hydro clutch, holeshot device, hour meter,etc. Plus the bike is 15lbs heavier than the KTM. No deals to be found on this bike.

Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right out of the gate. IMO honda has done a great job engineering this bike and integrating lots of innovative features.
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Old&New 10/17/2016 5:14pm
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Old&New wrote:
For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol The damn things are $8849 plus...
For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol

The damn things are $8849 plus $695 for estart and $300 labor for estart installation. After tax its $10,068 out the door. And that's if you can find one. Every dealer is sold out. This is without hydro clutch, holeshot device, hour meter,etc. Plus the bike is 15lbs heavier than the KTM. No deals to be found on this bike.

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Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right...
Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right out of the gate. IMO honda has done a great job engineering this bike and integrating lots of innovative features.
You missed the LOL apparently. It was sarcasm. Due to demand the dealers are charging full pop for everything. Talked to 20+ dealers and got same answer. Any dealer on this forum moving on prices?



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Cygnus 10/17/2016 5:15pm
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Lose wire leads to dead battery. Probably never hear its official. Let it go. This silly MEC race served its purpose. To find the flaws in race conditions before the real race season starts.
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vosser130 10/17/2016 5:19pm
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Old&New wrote:
For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol The damn things are $8849 plus...
For sure the 2017 bike is junk. Nobody should buy it. Please spread the word. Get your deposits back. lol

The damn things are $8849 plus $695 for estart and $300 labor for estart installation. After tax its $10,068 out the door. And that's if you can find one. Every dealer is sold out. This is without hydro clutch, holeshot device, hour meter,etc. Plus the bike is 15lbs heavier than the KTM. No deals to be found on this bike.

Kx125rider wrote:
Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right...
Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right out of the gate. IMO honda has done a great job engineering this bike and integrating lots of innovative features.
Old&New wrote:
You missed the LOL apparently. It was sarcasm. Due to demand the dealers are charging full pop for everything. Talked to 20+ dealers and got same...
You missed the LOL apparently. It was sarcasm. Due to demand the dealers are charging full pop for everything. Talked to 20+ dealers and got same answer. Any dealer on this forum moving on prices?



You won't find dealers moving on price, at least anything substantial. But these bikes are not sold out at dealers. You will be able to get one if you want one, at least in Michigan. I'm not entirely familiar with demand in other states. There are some dealers getting more than 10 of these bikes, which is crazy for a full size moto bike. It may take some time for each dealer to get their full order/allocation, but there will be enough to go around.
nascarnate326 10/17/2016 5:35pm
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Kx125rider wrote:
Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right...
Are you kidding?, forgive me if you are but this is a brand new bike, there are bound to be issues, it wont be perfect right out of the gate. IMO honda has done a great job engineering this bike and integrating lots of innovative features.
Old&New wrote:
You missed the LOL apparently. It was sarcasm. Due to demand the dealers are charging full pop for everything. Talked to 20+ dealers and got same...
You missed the LOL apparently. It was sarcasm. Due to demand the dealers are charging full pop for everything. Talked to 20+ dealers and got same answer. Any dealer on this forum moving on prices?



vosser130 wrote:
You won't find dealers moving on price, at least anything substantial. But these bikes are not sold out at dealers. You will be able to get...
You won't find dealers moving on price, at least anything substantial. But these bikes are not sold out at dealers. You will be able to get one if you want one, at least in Michigan. I'm not entirely familiar with demand in other states. There are some dealers getting more than 10 of these bikes, which is crazy for a full size moto bike. It may take some time for each dealer to get their full order/allocation, but there will be enough to go around.
I think it will be months before you can just walk in and buy one. My dealer still has a 16 they can't get rid of let alone one of the 17's.

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