Just picked up a 2012 CRF 450

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Edited Date/Time 10/29/2012 8:56am
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on best mapping for the stock set up? Whats the easiest to use / least expensive way to do this..? And any body have some good recommendations on a full pipe set up?

Thanks for any tips!
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burn1986 4/11/2012 6:32am
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Not too late to trade it in on a '12 KTM 250SX
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Way to crap on this guy's exciting day.
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I was going to start a thread to see everyones new rides this spring! She wasn't cheap, but I went a different direction this year. Little burn out on the tracks, going single track baby.. none of my friends ride tracks much more and a bare CRF450 was just not practical anymore for miles of trail riding. Never had a KTM before. The hydraulic clutch is amazing and comes with most of the accessories I would have had to buy to make a motocross bike trail worthy. Looking forward to the EFI and 6 speed.

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Seriously ^ I wouldn't take a 250sx over that, that crf is a great bike. My best advice is wide pegs, rad cages, rg3 triples and leave it alone!
Temor a la Mancha 4/11/2012 6:51am
4/11/2012 6:51am Edited Date/Time 4/11/2012 6:53am
253 wrote:
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on...
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on best mapping for the stock set up? Whats the easiest to use / least expensive way to do this..? And any body have some good recommendations on a full pipe set up?

Thanks for any tips!
Congrats on the new bike. The cheapest and easiest way is to find a race team or shop that supports race teams and that offers EFI mapping. For instance, out here in California, Precision Concepts (which specializes in suspension) has been testing and racing the KX since '09. They have really solid, thoroughly tested mappings. You can send them your ECU and they'll remap it for you and send it back. It's around $69, I believe.

I'm not familiar with any specialty shops back East that offer this service, but I'm sure they're out there. Dirt Rider also did a few articles on doing the Honda 450 FI mapping yourself, using the Honda EFI tuning kit, which is $350. They're not cheap and unless you're racing and will want to frequently change your mapping, it's probably not worth the cost. I'd try to find a shop that can do it. You can usually just mail the ECU, they'll remap it and send back to you.

You have to be careful remapping yourself unless you know what you're doing. You can make a lean condition and change other variables that require race gas otherwise you'll get detonation and such. Bottom line, it's best to have someone experienced do it that has existing mappings that have been tested and accomplish what you're looking for.

Enjoy the bike. I'll never go back to a carbureted bike.
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Shawn142 4/11/2012 6:59am
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burn1986 wrote:
Not too late to trade it in on a '12 KTM 250SX
Serious question here, have you ever even ridden either bike? I see so much raving about the new KTMs. After actually riding one I wasn't impressed.

For pipes you can't go wrong with the Yoshi because of all the factory development. It makes the most power on the CRF of all the aftermarket exhausts. For a nice smooth but substantial increase the Dr.D is good too. Map timing I can't help you with much, mine is still stock.
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253 wrote:
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on...
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on best mapping for the stock set up? Whats the easiest to use / least expensive way to do this..? And any body have some good recommendations on a full pipe set up?

Thanks for any tips!
Temor a la Mancha wrote:
Congrats on the new bike. The cheapest and easiest way is to find a race team or shop that supports race teams and that offers EFI...
Congrats on the new bike. The cheapest and easiest way is to find a race team or shop that supports race teams and that offers EFI mapping. For instance, out here in California, Precision Concepts (which specializes in suspension) has been testing and racing the KX since '09. They have really solid, thoroughly tested mappings. You can send them your ECU and they'll remap it for you and send it back. It's around $69, I believe.

I'm not familiar with any specialty shops back East that offer this service, but I'm sure they're out there. Dirt Rider also did a few articles on doing the Honda 450 FI mapping yourself, using the Honda EFI tuning kit, which is $350. They're not cheap and unless you're racing and will want to frequently change your mapping, it's probably not worth the cost. I'd try to find a shop that can do it. You can usually just mail the ECU, they'll remap it and send back to you.

You have to be careful remapping yourself unless you know what you're doing. You can make a lean condition and change other variables that require race gas otherwise you'll get detonation and such. Bottom line, it's best to have someone experienced do it that has existing mappings that have been tested and accomplish what you're looking for.

Enjoy the bike. I'll never go back to a carbureted bike.
Thanks man! That's what I was looking for... I kinda just didn't know what everyone does nowadays with the EFI, and I didn't want to drop a bunch of money on a tuner that I really don't know anything about. Mailing it in sounds like the cheapest easiest way to go for sure then. I can't believe how crispy the efi feels! Or maybe it just feels good to have a new bike for once!
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call your local pro action guy, ours does it at the races for $60
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Serious question here, have you ever even ridden either bike? I see so much raving about the new KTMs. After actually riding one I wasn't impressed...
Serious question here, have you ever even ridden either bike? I see so much raving about the new KTMs. After actually riding one I wasn't impressed.

For pipes you can't go wrong with the Yoshi because of all the factory development. It makes the most power on the CRF of all the aftermarket exhausts. For a nice smooth but substantial increase the Dr.D is good too. Map timing I can't help you with much, mine is still stock.
Thanks man. Yosh is kinda the way I'm leaning, but I'll check out the DR D as well too!
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MX558 4/11/2012 7:06am
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Congrats on the bike. I might be switching out my 11 YZ450 for one soon. lol
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pitbike502 wrote:
call your local pro action guy, ours does it at the races for $60
Really!? Very cool. I'll check that out. That'd be convenient
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MX558 wrote:
Congrats on the bike. I might be switching out my 11 YZ450 for one soon. lol
Thanks man. Yeah I had read like every article on all the new bikes, and changed my mind at least 100 times on what I wanted. But after my first ride this week I'm really happy about it. Its a cool bike.

The new style Yamy is the only one I haven't ridden yet... How come you don't like it?
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Thanks man! That's what I was looking for... I kinda just didn't know what everyone does nowadays with the EFI, and I didn't want to drop...
Thanks man! That's what I was looking for... I kinda just didn't know what everyone does nowadays with the EFI, and I didn't want to drop a bunch of money on a tuner that I really don't know anything about. Mailing it in sounds like the cheapest easiest way to go for sure then. I can't believe how crispy the efi feels! Or maybe it just feels good to have a new bike for once!
If you are happy with how "crisp" it feels with the stock mapping, why do you want to mess with it? Congrats on the new bike, nothing like the feeling of riding a new bike with everything fresh and perfect.
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253 wrote:
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on...
Hey all- Just picked up my '12 CRF 450. I've never owned an EFI bike yet (I'm coming off an 06 CRF 450) Any advice on best mapping for the stock set up? Whats the easiest to use / least expensive way to do this..? And any body have some good recommendations on a full pipe set up?

Thanks for any tips!
Someone mentioned wider pegs, but the '12 has the new, wider OEM pegs.

A pipe will help. Even a slip-on will do the job.

I would ride it with the aftermarket exhaust before changing the map.

If you clutch a lot then the stocker willl bug you. The Hinson 6-spring inner hub and pressure plate is the fix.

Congrats on the new bike! It's so good it's like cheating.Smile
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Nothing like that new bike smell.....have fun man.
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burn1986 4/11/2012 7:54am
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burn1986 wrote:
Not too late to trade it in on a '12 KTM 250SX
Shawn142 wrote:
Serious question here, have you ever even ridden either bike? I see so much raving about the new KTMs. After actually riding one I wasn't impressed...
Serious question here, have you ever even ridden either bike? I see so much raving about the new KTMs. After actually riding one I wasn't impressed.

For pipes you can't go wrong with the Yoshi because of all the factory development. It makes the most power on the CRF of all the aftermarket exhausts. For a nice smooth but substantial increase the Dr.D is good too. Map timing I can't help you with much, mine is still stock.
Just kidding Mr. Serious. MXA has some good info on the 2012 CRF450, plus a blurb about mapping it on the 2010 test.

http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/MXAS-2012-HONDA-CRF450-MOTO…
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jndmx wrote:
Nothing like that new bike smell.....have fun man.
you mite want to compare the new bike smell to the smell of money when i give you ur envelope from selling yours

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Othreehundred 4/11/2012 8:22am
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This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a ktm 250sx, you should have got a ktm 2stroke, you should of bought a 06 yz 250, your gonna shit when you blow your 450 up. I mean wtf is up with you suck asses and two strokes? Its like going on thumper talk in the honda crf 450 forum and asking " hey between the fmf and yosh exhaust what is better for top end" you will get 50 jerk offs saying " dont waste your money only buy a fking mrd exhaust, mrd is the only way to go" Well I really like FMF " get a MRD pipe mrd is the best yada yada yada.
And before any of you suck dick 4stroke haters begin I have a 06 yz 250 and a 12 ktm 250 sx and now a 12 crf 450 and guess what? There all fun to ride jack asses .
To the original poster congrats on the new bike . The bike is way too lean stock if you add a slip on or exhaust its going to get leaner. Eddie sincenaros or tokyo mods are good with setting them up. The bike does not really need a full exhaust a slip on will open it up a lot. The clutch is pretty crappy but I dont think you need to rush out and get a $1000 hinson clutch for it. I have a Hinson 6 spring in the box and decided to try springs first and with stiffer hinson springs the clutch works fin. If you a clutch abuser you may want to look into getting a basket and outer hub or something to help. Under the tank there is the throttle body, you can turn in at an angle which helps with a little bottom power on it. Stock gearing is ok 13/48 but if you put a 14/52 on there it will gear about a half tooth down from stock but it takes some stress off the motor and chassis and the bikes will ride better.
Dont listen to these yahoos you bought a great bike go have fun with it. Id grease the linkage,swingarm and head bearings mine did not have much grease at all.
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Suspension set-up for you, mapping to wake it up (if that is what you feel you need?), and a pipe ( Yosh, PC, FMF, MRD all respond well) or at least a S.O from the said companies. Do the boingers 1st,then add the S.O. or full exhaust next and then see what your needs are if your wanting more?
I can tell you this bike can be made fast,stable,& reliable, I have ridden a '10 with P.C motor work and merge suspension mods and it is the best bike I have ever ridden, it has a lotta money into it but compared to my '12 i'm thinking it might jus be worth it?
Good luck and have fun and do what you can afford.
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This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a...
This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a ktm 250sx, you should have got a ktm 2stroke, you should of bought a 06 yz 250, your gonna shit when you blow your 450 up. I mean wtf is up with you suck asses and two strokes? Its like going on thumper talk in the honda crf 450 forum and asking " hey between the fmf and yosh exhaust what is better for top end" you will get 50 jerk offs saying " dont waste your money only buy a fking mrd exhaust, mrd is the only way to go" Well I really like FMF " get a MRD pipe mrd is the best yada yada yada.
And before any of you suck dick 4stroke haters begin I have a 06 yz 250 and a 12 ktm 250 sx and now a 12 crf 450 and guess what? There all fun to ride jack asses .
To the original poster congrats on the new bike . The bike is way too lean stock if you add a slip on or exhaust its going to get leaner. Eddie sincenaros or tokyo mods are good with setting them up. The bike does not really need a full exhaust a slip on will open it up a lot. The clutch is pretty crappy but I dont think you need to rush out and get a $1000 hinson clutch for it. I have a Hinson 6 spring in the box and decided to try springs first and with stiffer hinson springs the clutch works fin. If you a clutch abuser you may want to look into getting a basket and outer hub or something to help. Under the tank there is the throttle body, you can turn in at an angle which helps with a little bottom power on it. Stock gearing is ok 13/48 but if you put a 14/52 on there it will gear about a half tooth down from stock but it takes some stress off the motor and chassis and the bikes will ride better.
Dont listen to these yahoos you bought a great bike go have fun with it. Id grease the linkage,swingarm and head bearings mine did not have much grease at all.
i am a suck dick ass clown 2 stroke lover , you should go back to thumper talk this place seems to be to much fun for u to handle
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burn1986 4/11/2012 8:28am
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Othreehundred wrote:
This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a...
This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a ktm 250sx, you should have got a ktm 2stroke, you should of bought a 06 yz 250, your gonna shit when you blow your 450 up. I mean wtf is up with you suck asses and two strokes? Its like going on thumper talk in the honda crf 450 forum and asking " hey between the fmf and yosh exhaust what is better for top end" you will get 50 jerk offs saying " dont waste your money only buy a fking mrd exhaust, mrd is the only way to go" Well I really like FMF " get a MRD pipe mrd is the best yada yada yada.
And before any of you suck dick 4stroke haters begin I have a 06 yz 250 and a 12 ktm 250 sx and now a 12 crf 450 and guess what? There all fun to ride jack asses .
To the original poster congrats on the new bike . The bike is way too lean stock if you add a slip on or exhaust its going to get leaner. Eddie sincenaros or tokyo mods are good with setting them up. The bike does not really need a full exhaust a slip on will open it up a lot. The clutch is pretty crappy but I dont think you need to rush out and get a $1000 hinson clutch for it. I have a Hinson 6 spring in the box and decided to try springs first and with stiffer hinson springs the clutch works fin. If you a clutch abuser you may want to look into getting a basket and outer hub or something to help. Under the tank there is the throttle body, you can turn in at an angle which helps with a little bottom power on it. Stock gearing is ok 13/48 but if you put a 14/52 on there it will gear about a half tooth down from stock but it takes some stress off the motor and chassis and the bikes will ride better.
Dont listen to these yahoos you bought a great bike go have fun with it. Id grease the linkage,swingarm and head bearings mine did not have much grease at all.
All you both need is a '12 250SX and your problems are solved. Welcome Noob.
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Othreehundred wrote:
This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a...
This place is classic, the guy is stoked to buy a new bike and you get these ass clowns saying " oh have you ridden a ktm 250sx, you should have got a ktm 2stroke, you should of bought a 06 yz 250, your gonna shit when you blow your 450 up. I mean wtf is up with you suck asses and two strokes? Its like going on thumper talk in the honda crf 450 forum and asking " hey between the fmf and yosh exhaust what is better for top end" you will get 50 jerk offs saying " dont waste your money only buy a fking mrd exhaust, mrd is the only way to go" Well I really like FMF " get a MRD pipe mrd is the best yada yada yada.
And before any of you suck dick 4stroke haters begin I have a 06 yz 250 and a 12 ktm 250 sx and now a 12 crf 450 and guess what? There all fun to ride jack asses .
To the original poster congrats on the new bike . The bike is way too lean stock if you add a slip on or exhaust its going to get leaner. Eddie sincenaros or tokyo mods are good with setting them up. The bike does not really need a full exhaust a slip on will open it up a lot. The clutch is pretty crappy but I dont think you need to rush out and get a $1000 hinson clutch for it. I have a Hinson 6 spring in the box and decided to try springs first and with stiffer hinson springs the clutch works fin. If you a clutch abuser you may want to look into getting a basket and outer hub or something to help. Under the tank there is the throttle body, you can turn in at an angle which helps with a little bottom power on it. Stock gearing is ok 13/48 but if you put a 14/52 on there it will gear about a half tooth down from stock but it takes some stress off the motor and chassis and the bikes will ride better.
Dont listen to these yahoos you bought a great bike go have fun with it. Id grease the linkage,swingarm and head bearings mine did not have much grease at all.
I appreciate the tips. thanks man
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All you both need is a '12 250SX and your problems are solved. Welcome Noob.
Just cause you're bitter that only 1/10th of a single SX race attendance signed your petition in about two years doesn't mean you have to rain on this guys parade.

@253 - Congrats on the new bike!
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Congrats on your great choice! I have also 2012 CRF 450 and it's definitely the best bike I have ever had. The bike is so slim and light, that it's almost like riding 250f with plenty of power. And I have also tested 250SX (and other KTM models) and those weren't too impressive.
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Eddie Cisneros did my remap, he charges $50.00. Was a very noticeable improvement by itself. I also just added a Yosh RS4 ss/alum full exhaust. Pulls lower and stronger and also revs out longer on top if needed.
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burn1986 4/11/2012 10:16am
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All you both need is a '12 250SX and your problems are solved. Welcome Noob.
moto282 wrote:
Just cause you're bitter that only 1/10th of a single SX race attendance signed your petition in about two years doesn't mean you have to rain...
Just cause you're bitter that only 1/10th of a single SX race attendance signed your petition in about two years doesn't mean you have to rain on this guys parade.

@253 - Congrats on the new bike!
Ouch, that was a little stiff. I'm actually not bitter over that research statistic.

I'm actually glad 253 got the new bike. I'm just messing with the new guy. If I could afford it, I would get one after buying 4 or 5 of the current 2-strokes that I would want first. I think the 06 that he had was one of the best current 4-strokes made (and yes I have ridden an '06 CRF, and an '06 KXF). If that's the bike he wants, then I'm glad.
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CRF505 4/11/2012 10:32am
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Way to crap on this guy's exciting day.
Thank you, I agree. x2

burn1986 - Very original... your post sucks. And for the record, butt hurt 2 stroke lovers are why I hardly come on here anymore. We can't have 1 effing intelligent conversation on here without someone making ignorant 2 stroke vs 4 stroke references.

253 - Whatever bike you bought, regardless of how many strokes it has, I'm sure you'll have a great time on it. Congrats on the new ride!

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