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I'm just curious to know how much a full set of PC works suspension would cost. Or any company for that matter. Like a full set of brand new spring forks and shock, sprung and valved for you. I figure at least some of you have to have bought some before. I'm just curious
KYB Kit suspension is a little cheaper. In the $7-8k ballpark.
WP cone valve/trax shock are similar to KYB pricing.
The Shop
1) I can afford to and it’s my choice
2) you can sell the kit when you sell the bike to recoup most of your cost (if you buy a used kit)
3) The suspension is amazing. Plush in the chop and soaks up big hits without a huge jarring hit. I’ve had 2 different Showa A kits, and currently have WP cone valves.
4) is it going to turn a C rider into a pro? Of course not. Has it made me faster? Yes, because I have a lot more confidence in my suspension. It’s saved my ass a number of times.
To each their own.
5. Makes you feel comfortable on bike.
If I could I would have a set
I say if you have the money, sure go for it! But for the average weekend warrior that doesn’t race or ride super aggressive, I don’t see any reason for the average guy to have kit suspension vs having Enzo, FC or PC set the stock stuff up for the rider other than having the money and wanting kit suspension just because they can afford it.
makes the average better and faster
Was much faster on it and I’m just a c rider.
Pit Row
Just one warning though....do not take any notice of all the small-minded, jealous 2 year-old idiots that you will hear mumble to their equally small-minded, jealous 2 year-old bro's why the f#*k has he got kit suspension for?!?! Just smile and wave as you cruise by....that will piss them off even more!!!
I’m not trying to say that kit suspension sucks, because I know it’s really really good. I’m just saying I’ve know average guys that aren’t serious that couldn’t tell me the difference between my dads stuff from Enzo, my stuff from Enzo that was setup for 60lbs less and their own stock stuff. Literally told me they felt no difference. Most of the guys we know are like that.
It still has to be valved and sprung for your weight and ability, just like every other suspension.
Hopefully you get a chance to ride a bike with an A kit at some point. It’s a night and day difference. Once I bought my first A kit, I made the decision that I won’t ride without one again! It’s that big of a deal.
These days used A kits are everywhere in the $2500-$3500 range. Considering you can use it and sell it in the future for relatively no loss, it’s a no brainer if you can swing the initial cash outlay.
If you read the for sale section it is mind blowing what gets called "A" kit.
I have my definition, which I think is in line with what most here in this thread are calling A kit stuff, but I think the term gets thrown around way to much these days!
For example, I bought an "A" kit out of the for sale section and was blown away with what we saw. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting more as the price reflected what I got, however this was called "A" kit from a fairly well known company...
Around 2007-2008ish, Showa came out with their official “A kit”, which is why we now call everything “A kit”. More on that in a bit. Over the years, Showa has made A kit in dual spring, SFF spring, SFF AIR, SFF TAC AIR, and now back to dual spring. All 49mm lowers. Kashima uppers, some use DLC some TiNi lowers, CNC lugs, CNC’d internals with much tighter tolerances than prodicution suspension, larger dampening rods, etc. internals also coated for friction reduction.
KYB: Doesn’t have an “A kit”. They call their “A kit” product “KYB Kit Suspension”. 48mm lowers and based on production suspension. Admittedly, I don’t know as much about their versions in terms of what is different than production suspension. It has Kashima uppers, DLC Lowers and most new kits have cnc’d lugs, but some came with cast lugs. They have PSF1 and spring versions.
WP: Cone Valve (spring and AER versions) and trax shock are their “A kit”.
It drives me insane when someone gets their stock suspension coated (Kashima or anodized uppers, DLC or TiNi lowers) and calls it A kit suspension. It’s not. That’s the definition of what everyone knows as a “B kit”.
It goes back to the whole statement of “it still has to be set up for you and your skill level”.
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