Jett, Ferrandis, Herlings, Gaiser, Prado... The top 5

MyBobbym
Profile picture for user MyBobbym
Posts
725
Joined
11/23/2020
Location
Apache Junction, AZ US
MyBobbym
Motocross racers in the world. Not one of em is an American Racer. What the hell folks. Much like the Covid 19 malady, Damn kicked the living shit out of the Americans.

An embarrassment if you ask me.
12
34
|
DrinkMoreWater 9/4/2021 11:26pm
9/4/2021 11:26pm
Yeah I agree for the most part, tomac is top 3 when he decides to turn it on but his "on" isn't as good as years past.

Hopefully the change next year sparks him.
5
3
M-M
Profile picture for user M-M
Posts
2138
Joined
11/20/2008
Location
GB
M-M 9/4/2021 11:45pm
9/4/2021 11:45pm
You missed Febrve and Cairolli 👍
9
1
SilverSpurs
Profile picture for user SilverSpurs
Posts
561
Joined
2/5/2021
Location
Sarasota, FL US
SilverSpurs 9/5/2021 1:05am
9/5/2021 1:05am
MyBobbym wrote:
Motocross racers in the world. Not one of em is an American Racer. What the hell folks. Much like the Covid 19 malady, Damn kicked the...
Motocross racers in the world. Not one of em is an American Racer. What the hell folks. Much like the Covid 19 malady, Damn kicked the living shit out of the Americans.

An embarrassment if you ask me.
Are you saying the WADA/AMA crackdown on PED's is the reason?
2

The Shop

See All »
8tensolutions
Profile picture for user 8tensolutions
Posts
2406
Joined
11/15/2009
Location
Salt Lake City, UT US
8tensolutions 9/5/2021 7:42am
9/5/2021 7:42am
Yet 3 of them don't ride SX. Like it or not, SX is where the sport draws fans, income, rider pay and the list goes on an on. I love them both equally, but SX is simply a better and more lucrative program for everyone involved.
5
6
Brent
Profile picture for user Brent
Posts
5301
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Party in Temecula, CA US
Brent 9/5/2021 8:10am
9/5/2021 8:10am Edited Date/Time 9/5/2021 8:11am
There are some fucking fast American racers - I took the roost of most of them while on the side of the track yesterday.

Since all these guys train the same way for the most part, the talent is rising to the top, and talent doesn’t care what flag you were born under.
7
ATKpilot99
Profile picture for user ATKpilot99
Posts
9805
Joined
4/13/2010
Location
Lake Geneva, WI US
ATKpilot99 9/5/2021 9:09am
9/5/2021 9:09am
While there is some truth to this I can't help but think Bobby is on one of his angling expeditions
3
MyBobbym
Profile picture for user MyBobbym
Posts
725
Joined
11/23/2020
Location
Apache Junction, AZ US
MyBobbym 9/5/2021 9:40am
9/5/2021 9:40am
If this starts happening every year where a furner wins the Merican mx title, drastic measures will have to be taken to even up the playing field
1
8
geordieshaft 9/5/2021 10:07am
9/5/2021 10:07am
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
17
wreckitrandy
Profile picture for user wreckitrandy
Posts
3853
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Granite Falls, NC US
wreckitrandy 9/5/2021 10:16am
9/5/2021 10:16am
MyBobbym wrote:
If this starts happening every year where a furner wins the Merican mx title, drastic measures will have to be taken to even up the playing...
If this starts happening every year where a furner wins the Merican mx title, drastic measures will have to be taken to even up the playing field
We did that with Karsmakers already .
SilverSpurs
Profile picture for user SilverSpurs
Posts
561
Joined
2/5/2021
Location
Sarasota, FL US
SilverSpurs 9/5/2021 11:04am
9/5/2021 11:04am Edited Date/Time 9/5/2021 11:06am
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
Maybe.

MXGP/Luongo is on the nose for a lot of non Europeans yet a lot of good internationals go to the US.

MXGP has no pop and panache and a lesser status compared to AMA- as well as no SX.

The organisation is suss and stories abound about kids and families getting dudded.

Tracks are a lot easier in Europe as well which flatters some riders.


The above would be as at least as likely an explanation for the dearth of American and southern hemisphere riders.
10
deanwhite51
Profile picture for user deanwhite51
Posts
2095
Joined
10/5/2017
Location
Sydney AU
Fantasy
2582nd
deanwhite51 9/5/2021 8:41pm
9/5/2021 8:41pm
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
Or they wanted a SX title over a MX title..?
SX is the big picture dream for a lot of riders.
1
jorgechavez 9/5/2021 9:11pm
9/5/2021 9:11pm
Not surprising that it’s one of the miserable Brits that posts the dumbest thing I’ve read on here in awhile
1
4
Xeno
Profile picture for user Xeno
Posts
3634
Joined
12/30/2010
Location
San Clemente, CA US
Xeno 9/5/2021 9:41pm
9/5/2021 9:41pm
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
Because they make more money racing Supercross. Motocross is their summer job.
2
1
cmotodad
Profile picture for user cmotodad
Posts
847
Joined
12/18/2013
Location
Yorba Linda, CA US
cmotodad 9/6/2021 8:06am
9/6/2021 8:06am
All of the GP and AMA guys rip! If the GP guys rode SX, in a short time, would be up front. If the AMA guys rode MX year round, they would be on the same outdoor level as the GP riders. SX is the big money draw for most but not all. Until a series brings them al together for more than 1 race, threads like this will continue. Every top guy from either side of the pond are dedicated, talented and both are fun to watch.
6
yak651
Profile picture for user yak651
Posts
6681
Joined
8/26/2006
Location
Appleton, WI US
Fantasy
214th
yak651 9/6/2021 8:44am
9/6/2021 8:44am
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
Yep I’m sure if you asked Kenny he would say America was a much easier option after he practically lost his arm 🤦‍♂️. They come to America for the challenge, their dreams, fame, fortune and not training in crappy spring conditions they experience in Europe. But you keep telling yourself that…
1

Pit Row

See All »
Park Boys
Profile picture for user Park Boys
Posts
3579
Joined
3/23/2012
Location
MH US
Fantasy
32nd
Park Boys 9/6/2021 9:13am
9/6/2021 9:13am Edited Date/Time 9/6/2021 9:13am
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
Umm Herlings, Febvre and Gajser have never raced this MX1 MXGP you speak of either. They have raced in the MXGP class though.
1
geordieshaft 9/6/2021 9:13am
9/6/2021 9:13am
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
yak651 wrote:
Yep I’m sure if you asked Kenny he would say America was a much easier option after he practically lost his arm 🤦‍♂️. They come to...
Yep I’m sure if you asked Kenny he would say America was a much easier option after he practically lost his arm 🤦‍♂️. They come to America for the challenge, their dreams, fame, fortune and not training in crappy spring conditions they experience in Europe. But you keep telling yourself that…
Completely missing the point of the OP who states the fastest motocross racers are currently European. Supercross is a completely different sport to Motocross and not one that your average rider can associate with. My point was that America has not had a premier MX1 champion or even a top five rider since Ben Townley in 05/06, only MX2 riders. Perhaps its that training in crappy spring conditions that make them a lot tougher (and faster), Red Bud anyone ?
1
SilverSpurs
Profile picture for user SilverSpurs
Posts
561
Joined
2/5/2021
Location
Sarasota, FL US
SilverSpurs 9/6/2021 9:35am
9/6/2021 9:35am
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
yak651 wrote:
Yep I’m sure if you asked Kenny he would say America was a much easier option after he practically lost his arm 🤦‍♂️. They come to...
Yep I’m sure if you asked Kenny he would say America was a much easier option after he practically lost his arm 🤦‍♂️. They come to America for the challenge, their dreams, fame, fortune and not training in crappy spring conditions they experience in Europe. But you keep telling yourself that…
geordieshaft wrote:
Completely missing the point of the OP who states the fastest motocross racers are currently European. Supercross is a completely different sport to Motocross and not...
Completely missing the point of the OP who states the fastest motocross racers are currently European. Supercross is a completely different sport to Motocross and not one that your average rider can associate with. My point was that America has not had a premier MX1 champion or even a top five rider since Ben Townley in 05/06, only MX2 riders. Perhaps its that training in crappy spring conditions that make them a lot tougher (and faster), Red Bud anyone ?
LOL

Strawman argument based on a stupid premise.

Where is the proof that those individuals decided America would be easier? You cannot mind read. America has not had a MX1 champion because no one with the necessary ability wants to ride there. The series does not have a good rep.

European MX sucks as far as pay and perceived status is concerned and the proof is the empty gates and lack of spectators. All those watchers at the Turkey round would have been on first name basis.

Pala just run was way over subscribed for entries in both classes.
There were probably riders from more countries than the MXGP round:
Australia, Japan, France, Germany UK, Switzerland Sth Africa, Zambia Korea, Costa Rica Italy, the Netherlands and Mexico were all represented.

4
geordieshaft 9/6/2021 9:38am
9/6/2021 9:38am
geordieshaft wrote:
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli...
Not only that , Roczen, Ferrandis, Musquin, Lawrence Etc, decided America would be an easier option than tackling the top tier MX1 MXGP with Gajser, Cairoli, Febre, Herlings etc !! Americans all talk about the best going to America , when all youve had is the children that would struggle top 5 MXGP or even top ten !! Non of your MXGP guys in AMA Have ever contested MX1 !!!!
Park Boys wrote:
Umm Herlings, Febvre and Gajser have never raced this MX1 MXGP you speak of either. They have raced in the MXGP class though.
No, but Cairoli certainly has ridden both, it changed to MXGP IN 2013
blaze 57
Profile picture for user blaze 57
Posts
378
Joined
4/11/2018
Location
Inchelium, WA US
blaze 57 9/6/2021 9:53am
9/6/2021 9:53am
IMO both Roczen and Musquin are AMERICAN racers. Due to the length of time they have spent here racing,
2

Post a reply to: Jett, Ferrandis, Herlings, Gaiser, Prado... The top 5