Jeremy McGraths bike problems in 97

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7/20/2019 3:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/20/2019 3:25 PM

So what was the story about his throttle cable being installed wrong? I listened to the decoster interview and never did hear the story? I have an issue of MXA where it says Wyatt Seals was “demoted to tire changer” and Skip was brought back. I hope poor Wyatt wasn’t the tire changer when McGrath had that flat that cost him the 97 s championship lol. Matter of fact, someone here on vital alluded to the fact the “In 97 McGrath’s mechanic was installing the transmissions wrong on the Suzuki which was really why McGrath kept braking transmissions”. Also Wyatt?

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7/20/2019 3:57 PM

Asked for a Honda throttle. Honda throttle fitted. Later discovered Honda throttle didn’t open the slide all the way....

That’s a story I heard.

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7/20/2019 4:07 PM

Thanks!

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7/20/2019 4:29 PM

On top of using the wrong throttle as mentioned above, Wyatt was assembling the clutch wrong all year...MC kept smoking clutches.

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7/20/2019 4:29 PM

Aceofspades wrote:

So what was the story about his throttle cable being installed wrong? I listened to the decoster interview and never did hear the story? I have an issue of MXA where it says Wyatt Seals was “demoted to tire changer” and Skip was brought back. I hope poor Wyatt wasn’t the tire changer when McGrath had that flat that cost him the 97 s championship lol. Matter of fact, someone here on vital alluded to the fact the “In 97 McGrath’s mechanic was installing the transmissions wrong on the Suzuki which was really why McGrath kept braking transmissions”. Also Wyatt?

He lost the title by 15 points. Charlotte was not the reason he lost.

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7/20/2019 4:41 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/20/2019 4:42 PM

Park Boys wrote:

He lost the title by 15 points. Charlotte was not the reason he lost.

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7/20/2019 4:43 PM

Aceofspades wrote:

So what was the story about his throttle cable being installed wrong? I listened to the decoster interview and never did hear the story? I have an issue of MXA where it says Wyatt Seals was “demoted to tire changer” and Skip was brought back. I hope poor Wyatt wasn’t the tire changer when McGrath had that flat that cost him the 97 s championship lol. Matter of fact, someone here on vital alluded to the fact the “In 97 McGrath’s mechanic was installing the transmissions wrong on the Suzuki which was really why McGrath kept braking transmissions”. Also Wyatt?

Park Boys wrote:

He lost the title by 15 points. Charlotte was not the reason he lost.

There were lots of bike issues. If you read his book he even points to Wyatt not really having his head in the game. The flat tire was just ONE of the many bike issues.

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“Let the Good Times Roll”

7/20/2019 4:57 PM

I don't know if this is entirely correct but I do also remember reading that there was (predictably really) a bit of agro between McGrath and Larocco, especially over forks. Mike tried some new design but didn't like the feel (initially) - Jeremy on the other hand did but then Mike wanted to try them again but it was too late etc... Not a good atmosphere. Even Greg, who of course saw his career out with Suzuki, had to admit that for a long time the bike and team were not where it needed to be. That said Jeremy did win some races and still came pretty close ultimately. Too little too late.

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7/20/2019 5:18 PM

Park Boys wrote:

He lost the title by 15 points. Charlotte was not the reason he lost.

He lost ground when he tangled with Lamson early in the season. Along with the flat, those were the main reason he lost. They did ask the Factory to change a few things with the engine to suit JMGs preferences and they were slow to act on the request, but the main points killers were those two events. Considering he called Roger only a few weeks before A1, its a wonder they did as well as they did.

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"We don't rent pigs."

7/20/2019 5:35 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/20/2019 5:36 PM

McGrath said the bike was slow and he got great starts on it only because it hooked up without the extra power to be wasted on wheel spin. Larocco was pissed because they let McGrath use upside down forks and he had to use the Suzuki non inverted forks and then Lamson took McGrath out twice at the season opener.

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Ed Johnson

7/20/2019 5:55 PM
Edited Date/Time: 7/20/2019 5:56 PM

I think Emig would have dominated outdoors that season no matter what . That SX season was close though.

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7/20/2019 6:09 PM

MC raced a YZ250 the next year and won 3 straight.

The Suzuki race bike needed a lot to get up to his level. The facts are he started on the bike just weeks prior to A1, the team had zero prep time, Lamson went wild at A1 affecting MC, then his mechanic was not on Skip’s level apparently.

I wonder if he would have signed with suzuki earlier if Roger and the team could have stepped up their program like they did when RC went there. With the proper prep time both bike and rider can do their best.

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7/20/2019 6:19 PM

Lamson took mc out twice at a1, then the flat screwed him too. If anyone of those 3 things didnt happen, Jeremy would have been king!

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7/20/2019 6:36 PM

Had he won the title they may have thrown a dickload of money at him to stay. He was over it and wanted out but enough money may have swayed his opinion, forcing him to ride the pooch for a few more seasons, ruining his king status. I feel it worked out the way it should have, except for that KTM stint. Yamaha should be ashamed for not letting him finish his career with them.

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7/20/2019 7:13 PM

It was also wyatts fault that the stock bikes right off the dealership floor were braking kickstarters and transmissions. Remember Mcgrath hiring pro circuit to help make his bikes faster,, when decoster couldnt. also wyatts fault. what about Larocco walking out of pontiac sx before it started? Those bikes were garbage. How the hell would you even install a clutch wrong? I think those baskets were a lot smaller than a honda.

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7/20/2019 7:27 PM

I owned a 97 and the clutch was garbage, so I don’t think it needed help breaking.

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7/20/2019 7:28 PM

lostboy819 wrote:

McGrath said the bike was slow and he got great starts on it only because it hooked up without the extra power to be wasted on wheel spin. Larocco was pissed because they let McGrath use upside down forks and he had to use the Suzuki non inverted forks and then Lamson took McGrath out twice at the season opener.

McGrath didn’t start using those Forks until Minneapolis. He took the forks off one of his old Honda practice bikes. (That’s what he said in his book anyway.)

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“Let the Good Times Roll”

7/20/2019 7:42 PM

Wasnt the crap Suzuk clutches what put Hinson on the map when they became the cure for the crap Suzuki clutches?

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7/20/2019 7:49 PM

Wasn't there a broken handlebar too that resulted in a DNF?

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The older I get, the faster I was.

7/20/2019 8:20 PM

captmoto wrote:

Wasn't there a broken handlebar too that resulted in a DNF?

Pretty sure that was on yamaha

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7/20/2019 8:53 PM

Didn’t they go over these on the Whiskey throttle show? There was a few things I think?

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7/20/2019 9:14 PM

cable wrote:

It was also wyatts fault that the stock bikes right off the dealership floor were braking kickstarters and transmissions. Remember Mcgrath hiring pro circuit to help make his bikes faster,, when decoster couldnt. also wyatts fault. what about Larocco walking out of pontiac sx before it started? Those bikes were garbage. How the hell would you even install a clutch wrong? I think those baskets were a lot smaller than a honda.

You really should listen to the Whiskey Throttle Show when they had DeCoster on.

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7/20/2019 9:55 PM

I listened and never heard any of this. I may have accidentally skipped over it by accident

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7/21/2019 8:55 AM
Edited Date/Time: 7/21/2019 8:55 AM

With Jeremy jumping ship last minute development was behind. That entire Supercross season was basically testing. Statements have been made that the bike was where it needed to be, or in the ball park, at the end of the Supercross season.
The damage was already done. Not to mention his mechanics off the track personal issues/indevors.
Just think if he would have won that year. He may have ended his career at Suzuki.
The history books would definitely be different.

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7/21/2019 10:31 AM

There was no A1. It was the Coliseum. X2

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"I think you're pretty slow, everyone else on here knew that for years."

7/21/2019 10:41 AM

captmoto wrote:

Wasn't there a broken handlebar too that resulted in a DNF?

No, that was a broke triple clamp and it was Yamaha and he still won the championship that year.

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Ed Johnson

7/21/2019 3:40 PM

captmoto wrote:

Wasn't there a broken handlebar too that resulted in a DNF?

lostboy819 wrote:

No, that was a broke triple clamp and it was Yamaha and he still won the championship that year.

Correct. First season for Renthal Twinwalls. The bars were stronger than the clamps.

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Braaapin' aint easy.

7/21/2019 4:10 PM

Robgvx wrote:

Asked for a Honda throttle. Honda throttle fitted. Later discovered Honda throttle didn’t open the slide all the way....

That’s a story I heard.

I mean who installs a throttle cable and does not look down the bore to see if the slide or valve is not opening fully? On multiple weeks at that! This cannot be true...

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7/22/2019 6:05 AM

Another thing I don't think anybody has mentioned. He had a slim shot at taking the title at the final round in Vegas but in the week prior cut his foot badly on some glass in a restaurant. I also think there was a mud race late in the season where he struggled. I always remember the Las Vegas final round because that's where Doug Henry rode the four stroke for the first time in supercross and won!

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7/22/2019 7:14 AM

I like when MC said Wyatt was too busy chasing tail. The WOT deal with the Honda throttle. That's crazy. Guess that was an early version of traction control.

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