Jeffrey Herlings on the KTM 450 SX-F in Rhenen this Thursday!

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This Thursday, May 5, a good number of European top riders will square off in the sand of Rhenen in the province of Utrecht, the Netherlands. Steve Ramon, David Philippaerts, Ceriel Klein Kromhof, Yentel Martens, Jeffrey Dewulf ... the sand specialists will be at the appointment of an international motocross on which we will have the opportunity to see Jeffrey Herlings riding a KTM 450 SX -F.

The double world champion MX2 therefore abandon its exceptionally 250 SX-F to try the big bikes. The young Dutchman has also announced to have already made several training sessions aboard the big KTM. This reflects in any case of Elsendorp Driver interest in this displacement ... before a -very awaited for- switch to MXGP next year?\

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5/4/2016 9:55am Edited Date/Time 5/4/2016 9:57am
It's too far from my house to drive to...
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After his off week accident on an 85, I'm amazed that KTM will let him do any non MX2 races.
5/4/2016 10:17am
h&m_cycle wrote:
It's too far from my house to drive to...
GrinningSillyWoohooLaughing

After this week's earlier Herlings thread...this is quite the bombshell.

I can't recall him riding the bigger bike before except for the des nations at lommel...so yeah it is exceptional.

Having said that, the Eurosport commentator, past British champ whose name has left me (must be the beer), said the MX2 guys all train on 450s cause of the low maintenance...maybe Herlings has likewise always trained on the 450...hard to believe though..he rides for factory KTM...I think they'de foot the bill of a factory 250 practice bike...
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What I heard today is that he is "3-4 seconds a lap faster on the 450"

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5/4/2016 10:34am
He has ridden a bigger bike in the belgium championship and absolutely dominated that class and yes there where enough world championship contenders at that race i will try and find the results and post them
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h&m_cycle wrote:
It's too far from my house to drive to...
:lol: :silly: :woohoo: :laugh: After this week's earlier Herlings thread...this is quite the bombshell. I can't recall him riding the bigger bike before except for the...
GrinningSillyWoohooLaughing

After this week's earlier Herlings thread...this is quite the bombshell.

I can't recall him riding the bigger bike before except for the des nations at lommel...so yeah it is exceptional.

Having said that, the Eurosport commentator, past British champ whose name has left me (must be the beer), said the MX2 guys all train on 450s cause of the low maintenance...maybe Herlings has likewise always trained on the 450...hard to believe though..he rides for factory KTM...I think they'de foot the bill of a factory 250 practice bike...
You're kind of right... What I've been told is that many of the 250 race bikes are so highly tuned that they can't keep them running for use as a daily practice bike. Riding a stock 250 for practice is too slow compared to their race bikes and so many of the 250 guys choose to train on a stock 450 instead.
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Jeffrey on a stock 450 3 years ago. There was a rumour he bought it off his own back as KTM didn't like he amount of riding he did on the 250f so stopped him from using it. So he went to a local dealer and bought a stock 450 to ride on in week.


https://youtu.be/dlnmVhvHzUI

No disrespect to the rest of the field but I expect Jeffrey to dominate them easily
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He's ridden the 450 plenty and crushes it. Kid is a beast. He looks like he's a strong kid and can throw around the 450.
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What I heard today is that he is "3-4 seconds a lap faster on the 450"
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in the world. I can understand people disputing he's not the "best" but he is certainly the fastest.

I don't think there's an MX championship that Herlings wouldn't win, as long as he doesn't crash out. That's the only knock on him (similar to the way Stewart was years ago when he was the FMOTP)
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Jeffrey on a stock 450 3 years ago. There was a rumour he bought it off his own back as KTM didn't like he amount of...
Jeffrey on a stock 450 3 years ago. There was a rumour he bought it off his own back as KTM didn't like he amount of riding he did on the 250f so stopped him from using it. So he went to a local dealer and bought a stock 450 to ride on in week.


https://youtu.be/dlnmVhvHzUI

No disrespect to the rest of the field but I expect Jeffrey to dominate them easily
Last bit, at 2m 10s...... Wow.

I love watching sand. Hate riding it, but love watching it. The rougher the better. No other condition, for me, better illustrates the awesome ability of the best riders.
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He must've read the "Congratulations Herlings" thread and decided to make the jump. Laughing
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Robgvx wrote:
What I heard today is that he is "3-4 seconds a lap faster on the 450"
agn5009 wrote:
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in...
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in the world. I can understand people disputing he's not the "best" but he is certainly the fastest.

I don't think there's an MX championship that Herlings wouldn't win, as long as he doesn't crash out. That's the only knock on him (similar to the way Stewart was years ago when he was the FMOTP)
The Tomac we saw in the 2 first races last year could challenge him speedwise but no one else, i think.
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Last bit, at 2m 10s...... Wow. I love watching sand. Hate riding it, but love watching it. The rougher the better. No other condition, for me...
Last bit, at 2m 10s...... Wow.

I love watching sand. Hate riding it, but love watching it. The rougher the better. No other condition, for me, better illustrates the awesome ability of the best riders.
Yeah i agree, seeing people that can ride the sand is amazing to watch. But to actually ride in deep sand is a pain in the ass. Especially if you have an off day. But one thing is certain, the feeling when you find good lines and start flowing on a rough sand track is very rewarding!
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5/4/2016 11:09am
Herlings is so dialed right now, it would be difficult for anybody to beat him anywhere. He probably wishes he was racing the MX1 class this year. Like Motofinne says, very much like Tomac last year.
5/4/2016 1:00pm
if you look at timescoring , its ike any other MX2 race Laughing people still think he isnt that fast on a 450 or needs time to adjust ...he whooped ass then , he will next season
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Brent wrote:
After his off week accident on an 85, I'm amazed that KTM will let him do any non MX2 races.
X2. They already lost one championship they didn't have to lose.
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his speed reminds me of when James was coming up on a 125... Stupid fast
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Robgvx wrote:
What I heard today is that he is "3-4 seconds a lap faster on the 450"
agn5009 wrote:
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in...
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in the world. I can understand people disputing he's not the "best" but he is certainly the fastest.

I don't think there's an MX championship that Herlings wouldn't win, as long as he doesn't crash out. That's the only knock on him (similar to the way Stewart was years ago when he was the FMOTP)
Motofinne wrote:
The Tomac we saw in the 2 first races last year could challenge him speedwise but no one else, i think.
Yeah Roczen has not done shit on a 450.....
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if you look at timescoring , its ike any other MX2 race :laugh: people still think he isnt that fast on a 450 or needs time...
if you look at timescoring , its ike any other MX2 race Laughing people still think he isnt that fast on a 450 or needs time to adjust ...he whooped ass then , he will next season
Once there was an frenchie coming out of his couch to do some European Races and he whipped Herlings ass! He won with ease. It was back in 2011 at Orp Le Grand. Christophe Pourcel rode like he was on some kind of Endurotrail and Jeffrey Herlings was pushing like a mad men.

Results: Heat 1 - Heat 2 - Heat 3

That race in Orp Le Grand was his big rehearsal for the MXON in France that same year, because of the fact that the tracks are quite similar if you talk about soil. You know that MXON where he finished second in heat2 behind Gautier Paulin but in front of Ryan Villopoto, Ken Roczen and all others. In the third heat he finished 9th.

Pictures from back then.

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5/4/2016 2:36pm
Why ride the current 450? When he moves out of the 250s in 4 years the bike will be totally different.
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agn5009 wrote:
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in...
So he'll only be 5 seconds a lap faster than everyone else. Awesome. Seriously, I don't know how anyone can dispute Herlings being the fastest in the world. I can understand people disputing he's not the "best" but he is certainly the fastest.

I don't think there's an MX championship that Herlings wouldn't win, as long as he doesn't crash out. That's the only knock on him (similar to the way Stewart was years ago when he was the FMOTP)
Motofinne wrote:
The Tomac we saw in the 2 first races last year could challenge him speedwise but no one else, i think.
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Yeah Roczen has not done shit on a 450.....
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is something different.
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Rhenen, amazing track, such a shame it's only opened a couple times a year. tomorrow gonna be a blast good weather a lot of good riders, I hope there will be a lot of emx250 riders like in axel & mill
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5/4/2016 2:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2016 2:59pm
Motofinne wrote:
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is...
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is something different.
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't...

Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any bike, Kenny got his number every place but sand...
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Motofinne wrote:
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is...
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is something different.
h&m_cycle wrote:
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't... Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any...
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't...

Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any bike, Kenny got his number every place but sand...
Who the F cares about that? Irrelevant also.

You guys are somehow totally missing that i'm talking about RAW SPEED. Not the ability to win multiple races and championships on a 450.

What guy X would do on brand X is irrelevant in this discussion.
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Motofinne wrote:
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is...
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is something different.
h&m_cycle wrote:
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't... Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any...
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't...

Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any bike, Kenny got his number every place but sand...
Motofinne wrote:
Who the F cares about that? Irrelevant also. You guys are somehow totally missing that i'm talking about RAW SPEED. Not the ability to win multiple...
Who the F cares about that? Irrelevant also.

You guys are somehow totally missing that i'm talking about RAW SPEED. Not the ability to win multiple races and championships on a 450.

What guy X would do on brand X is irrelevant in this discussion.
Read my post again, I'm talking Kenny can take that MX2 title off of Jeff... and I doubt if anyone in the world is faster
then Tomac in Motocross... RAW SPEED...

and it's only bench racing... Pardon me now, I must finish mowing grass before darkness falls... Woohoo

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Motofinne wrote:
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is...
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is something different.
h&m_cycle wrote:
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't... Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any...
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't...

Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any bike, Kenny got his number every place but sand...
Maybe AMA tracks. Not GP. You must not watch many GP's.
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Motofinne wrote:
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is...
Irrelevant since i was talking about raw speed. The raw speed that Tomac showed the 2 nationals last year and what Herlings has showed us is something different.
h&m_cycle wrote:
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't... Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any...
and I think Kenny can beat Jeffy for the MX2 title right now... Tomac can't..., Dungey Can't...

Let Kenny ride any bike, let Jeffy ride any bike, Kenny got his number every place but sand...
agn5009 wrote:
Maybe AMA tracks. Not GP. You must not watch many GP's.
Yeah, you're right... WORLD CHAMPION Ken Roczen can't win on GP TracksLaughing ... LMAO...

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