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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qER_M7lG_n0
Interesting video someone his caliber is raising the question about restrictor plates. I could see how some riders would be against it since it would take away their advantage. I think it would lead to closer racing since the cream of the crop wouldn't be able to pull away like they do.
Having less traction on a rear tire is interesting as well. If that were to happen I would like to see riders still have the same front traction to lessen the odds of washing the front end like Anderson did a few weeks back.
Interesting video someone his caliber is raising the question about restrictor plates. I could see how some riders would be against it since it would take away their advantage. I think it would lead to closer racing since the cream of the crop wouldn't be able to pull away like they do.
Having less traction on a rear tire is interesting as well. If that were to happen I would like to see riders still have the same front traction to lessen the odds of washing the front end like Anderson did a few weeks back.
And could lead to a bigger jamb up in the first turn than we have now.
Never going to happen.
The tyre idea makes great sense.
The Shop
its such a simple fix that would be frankly awesome without changing too much of the status quo.
Can you imagine the intensity with all the elite guys going for it on 250s? Plus a couple track changes where riders can't make obstacles with block passes out of the corners, IMO racing would be much more competitive.
Hmmmm
Obviously it is a factor and a handful of different castings and/or forged components would be needed, but going off of KTM's model are we only talking a different cylinder, piston, rod and maybe crank? Those aren't masses of changes and money to a company who already offers a solid 250.
It seems pretty insignificant in the scale of producing a range of bikes and it would let the Japanese take a big bite out of the Austrian's market and it would solve this recurring "450's are too much" issue that's brought up. If even Tomac's said before thet 450's are too much, at their elitest of the elite level, they're probably too much?
I think fuel and sound could slow them down enough.
Why was special racing fuel needed.
Regulating octane might not be a bad idea.
Anything other than forcing manufacturers to alter what they're already tooled up to produce.
That's why 350's, and a move back to 125/250's, and even two strokes aren't a viable option.
Tyres and octane restrictions are the only solution.
Or do nothing.
But it does seem that the riders are becoming more vocal about the tracks tearing up.
Which ultimately has them riding around in survival mode once the running orders are set, about mid race or so.
Hmmm sounds easier to just start a new SX series. Maybe under Amsoil's Snowcross/Short Course umbrella? Outlaws? USAC?
Pit Row
i saw this the other day.
This is 125s obviously, but just WATCH HOW SLOW THE RACING IS. It's awkward and bumpy and less flow and rough and TOUGH.
This is the type of racing that keeps people from getting hurt like they do nowadays. And it's also why so many complain about SX - it's the same line by the the 1st through 20th guy for 20m and it makes the racing so hard to cheer for.
SLOW THEM DOWN and make it technical.
There, just solved the problem. Now quit fucking with the future of our thumpers 👍
Yamaha make an exhaust washer that could be used on all bikes to even out the field,
it's a PW50 part number.
When you are seat bouncing a big triple out of a corner you want all you can get, to short it would be dangerous.
But, if the Promoter keeps building more extreme tracks so the obstacles are not easy to clear, then the power versus track difficulty escalation race will continue.
If they want to slowly calm down bikes, then they should only allow a fuel that produces less horsepower than MR Pro 6 or Renegade SX4 (I think that the race fuel for KTM) , those fuels add so much to the bikes power.
They could also back off on some of the extreme obstacles at the same time, so maybe the top 10 wouldn't get away from the rest of the pack so quickly.
Who backs off first? less challenging tracks or less horsepower?
I do like the tire idea Jason brought up. Have Dunlop et al produce a “spec” tire that everyone has to run. It will help keep the tracks from breaking down.
Glad the subject of slowing these guys down is being discussed. Way too many guys getting seriously hurt….. and it sure doesn’t make the series more exciting when 1/2 to 2/3 of the top contenders are out by halfway through.
Will be interesting to see if any of the ideas being tossed about gain any traction with the AMA.
I grew up watching MC RC and bubba smoke everyone week in and week out and everyone was on 125/250 two strokes. The racing on the 450 bikes these days is the closest I’ve ever seen it. Besides Tomac’s latest streak it’s been a toss up. Even then it’s hard to predict who will win the coming weekend. Putting everyone on 250’s won’t change crap. Christian Craig and Jett constantly make everyone look slow in the 250 class. It’s not the bikes fault. Hell the 250’s are more predictable. If anything the 450’s at least take away the power advantage the factories always had in the two stroke days. I like watching the 450 guys tame the beast on the tight tracks.
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