Japanese big 4 and a 350?

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Will the Japanese ever see the demand and offer a 350 off-road or mx based Bike?
i realize the powers that be can’t see the use since the AMA really handicaps the cc size there but damn it would be sweet if they offered a kit for 250cc bikes.
A 450 de sleeve just seems silly because you can’t get rid of that rotating mass but a 250 stroker big bore would do it.
It’s just right for woods riding and feels really light on track.
Maybe a pipe dream but as moto seems to be on the rise maybe we can get lucky who knows.
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MX558
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7/19/2021 7:55am
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
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Johnny Depp
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7/19/2021 8:42am
KTM, Husky, Gas Gas, Beta offer 350's, Sherco and TM offer 300's. Plenty of choices already. The Japanese teams control the rule books, and they are not going to do anything detrimental to their rules.
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7/19/2021 9:03am
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
The new gen air fork is night and day better
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7/19/2021 9:05am Edited Date/Time 7/19/2021 9:05am
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll be the best forks you've ever had off the show room floor.
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7/19/2021 9:06am Edited Date/Time 7/19/2021 9:06am
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
Maybe you should try the 2021 new fork, everyone I heard said they are a huge upgrade compared to the earlier generations of WP air.
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7/19/2021 9:11am
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
Deadric wrote:
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll...
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll be the best forks you've ever had off the show room floor.
I still see a lot of riders buying cones or other spring systems for the newer forks also
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ZOSICK
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7/19/2021 10:17am
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
I had an 19 KTM SX-F with a re-vale from Factory Connection and rear spring for my weight. It felt much better than stock in my opinion. However, I just picked up a 2022 KTM 250 SX-F and the forks out of the box feel night and day better! They are really plush and have good bottoming. I'm waiting on the rear spring but so far, they are great! Just FYI. The 21-22 forks are not even comparable in my opinion.
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7/19/2021 10:45am
Since id rather get aids than buy a KTM, i would be the first one to line up for a japanese 350.

In my world it is the ultimate CC size. You can get a 300cc kit for a 250 or a 400cc kit for a crf450 from Honda red moto in italy. But i really like the feel of a ”big 250” and not a small 450.
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cwtoyota
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7/19/2021 10:49am
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
Deadric wrote:
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll...
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll be the best forks you've ever had off the show room floor.
MX558 wrote:
I still see a lot of riders buying cones or other spring systems for the newer forks also
The 21 AER are a huge improvement and some riders don't hate the older AER stuff.
Still, if you ride all of them back to back with a reasonably valved spring system there's a substantial difference.

The ability to use one setting and have a good feeling from track to track is the big upside with the standard two-spring / two cartridge forks. The AER would actually be a great fork if you only ride one track or one location 95% of the time. Most of my buddies (and myself) go to a ton of different types of tracks.

Regarding the 350 engine... That might be the best engine in the history of the sport. I'm a seriously thinking about a GasGas or KTM 350. I picked up a spare set of KYB cartridges in case I decide to go that route.
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7/19/2021 11:53am
If anyone were to offer a 350’i think it would start with honda first as i just saw the inside of a current crf250 engine and it looks alot like a current ktm.
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7/19/2021 8:10pm
MX558 wrote:
I sure wish they would or at least ktm get rid of that shitty air fork . I do have a 19 350 and 19 kx450
Deadric wrote:
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll...
Sorry but the air forks are only shit for people that dont know how to set them up. Learn how to work with them and they'll be the best forks you've ever had off the show room floor.
MX558 wrote:
I still see a lot of riders buying cones or other spring systems for the newer forks also
That doesn’t mean much given that lots of people buy things they don’t need.

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