James Stewart is not a cheater

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6/21/2014 12:20 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/21/2014 12:20 PM

New column on the site.

http://m.vitalmx.com/community/Nerd,3790/blog/06/21/2014/entry/3849

I'd love your input specifically, FreshTopEnd. I respect your thoughts on everything.

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6/21/2014 12:39 PM

100% agree, and this is coming from a guy who isn't a big Stewart fan.

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6/21/2014 12:41 PM

It depends on whether he was taking it to focus more out on the track or for real issue.

We all know the stories of Ritalin and Adderall to help you study better, etc. He might of found an advantage that it helped him with motocross.

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6/21/2014 12:41 PM

Bravo Steve!

A precise, lucid column pertaining to this whole SX/MX drug testing fiasco.

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6/21/2014 12:42 PM

I will just say "Word cox word" on that.

To spell it out for the slow people: I agree with it all. smile


GO kill it next weekend JS7!!!

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6/21/2014 12:50 PM

That was really good but how did you get it finished without a deadline? j/k

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6/21/2014 12:57 PM

Great read - nice work.

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HAF

6/21/2014 1:07 PM

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly say hell f****** no I didn't..waay too long and just verbose...but I read most of it....a rule is a rule and James Stewart broke one. giving him a pass is unfair to the other riders, but like everything else, follow the money.

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in a past life, I was myself

when opportunity knocked, it waited because I was busy

I gave my father a talking to

6/21/2014 1:07 PM

sorry for the negative opinion

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in a past life, I was myself

when opportunity knocked, it waited because I was busy

I gave my father a talking to

6/21/2014 1:09 PM

Thank you for writing up what was going through my head. I couldn't have said it better myself. This needed to be said. BAD!

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6/21/2014 1:11 PM

Nice write up. I Couldn't agree more.

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6/21/2014 1:11 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/21/2014 1:22 PM

CR250Rider wrote:

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly ...more

I'll bet you started reading it and a fly landed on the window sill and you spent the next hour wondering what he was up to...

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Some of these posts are like reading closed caption on the cartoon channel...



Hello?..Vital?...

6/21/2014 1:12 PM

If you can show me the place in the WADA code that says it is OK to use Adderall, or other drugs you don't agree should be on the list if your doctor says you need it and just let WADA or USADA know that after you get caught, then I'm with you. I missed that part. What I read said you can't use stuff on the banned list unless you are granted a TUE. For me it comes down to three things:

1. Adderall is on the banned list.

2. James did not get a TUE for Adderall

3. James tested positive for Amphetamines.

I'm pretty sure those three things are undisputed. There doesn't seem to be any grey area here, just black and white.

Would Nerd have spent the time to create this document if it were Nathan Winegar (40th qualifier at High Point) who got popped?

If people truly want to be objective there should be the same amount of people defending a three digit privateer as there are defending James and we all know that would not be the case.

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6/21/2014 1:12 PM

CR250Rider wrote:

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly ...more

He's critical of what the Industry is doing - and that is an Industry ass kiss?

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HAF

6/21/2014 1:12 PM

Good shit Steve...

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Some of these posts are like reading closed caption on the cartoon channel...



Hello?..Vital?...

6/21/2014 1:12 PM

Excellent article and 100% true!! Great job, Steve!!

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6/21/2014 1:15 PM

CR250Rider wrote:

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly ...more

You must be one of those people that believe a second grader should be expelled from school because he has nail clippers in his backpack. Rules are rules unsure

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6/21/2014 1:22 PM

SlowOldGuy wrote:

If you can show me the place in the WADA code that says it is OK to use Adderall, or other drugs you don't agree should be on ...more

I'm not getting into the whole back and forth with this issue, but I agree with you.

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6/21/2014 1:23 PM

level wrote:

It depends on whether he was taking it to focus more out on the track or for real issue.

We all know the stories of Ritalin ...more

Those drugs only help people study because they use them to stay up all night and not sleep.

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6/21/2014 1:23 PM

fullfloater wrote:

That was really good but how did you get it finished without a deadline? j/k

Vyvanse. smile

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6/21/2014 1:25 PM

SlowOldGuy wrote:

If you can show me the place in the WADA code that says it is OK to use Adderall, or other drugs you don't agree should be on ...more

The only way that guy would've been tested is if he got on the podium.

But the column clearly says the testing isn't done well or for the right purpose. That includes anyone tested.

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6/21/2014 1:27 PM

CR250Rider wrote:

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly ...more

Bob693 wrote:

You must be one of those people that believe a second grader should be expelled from school because he has nail clippers in ...more

Bob gets it. Thanks. It's nice to see people use their brains instead of blindly following the letter of the rule and ignoring the spirit of the rule.

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6/21/2014 1:27 PM

CR250Rider wrote:

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly ...more

Bob693 wrote:

You must be one of those people that believe a second grader should be expelled from school because he has nail clippers in ...more

And you must be one of those people who think a second grader should be held as accountable as a 28 year old for his actions. It's a bit different when a child that young makes a dumb mistake and a grown man makes a dumb mistake. Hold him accountable for his actions. If he has a script, fine him for not presenting it to the proper officials and following a well known protocol. If he doesn't have a script, suspend him for taking an illegal narcotic. Like it or not, by him possessing and taking adderal without a prescription is illegal.

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6/21/2014 1:32 PM

CR250Rider wrote:

you sir are an industry kiss ass
the first thing you will say is did you read the whole thing in which case I will honestly ...more

Bob693 wrote:

You must be one of those people that believe a second grader should be expelled from school because he has nail clippers in ...more

agn5009 wrote:

And you must be one of those people who think a second grader should be held as accountable as a 28 year old for his actions. ...more

I actually agree with your assessment of how this should be handled. I advocated exactly that in the column. Is loan you a pill to help you finish the column, but that's illegal... smile

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6/21/2014 1:34 PM

steve cox you asshole.after reading your article,i'm convinced I need to see a psychologist.FUCK!

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6/21/2014 1:38 PM

Nerd, we don't know the reason why JS didn't file a TUE, thus we don't know if he's a cheater.
I think you're jumping the gun to defend him.
Also, just because Lance got around testing negative, doesn't mean the system is broken. It's much more complicated than that... but to argue that we shouldn't test riders because Lance didn't test positive is a misguided notion.

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“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.” ― Napoleon Bonaparte

6/21/2014 1:40 PM

I don't think anyone thinks he was cheating, more that it's just a paperwork issue. He should have showed the prescription and gotten the TUE. The rules say it could be just a warning for that, or a more stern penalty. We'll see what happens.

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6/21/2014 1:40 PM

zippy895 wrote:

steve cox you asshole.after reading your article,i'm convinced I need to see a psychologist.FUCK!

HA! same here, he described me to a "T"

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6/21/2014 1:41 PM

Bob693 wrote:

You must be one of those people that believe a second grader should be expelled from school because he has nail clippers in ...more

agn5009 wrote:

And you must be one of those people who think a second grader should be held as accountable as a 28 year old for his actions. ...more

Nerd wrote:

I actually agree with your assessment of how this should be handled. I advocated exactly that in the column. Is loan you a ...more

Ha I wasn't bashing your assessment at all. I haven't gotten time to read it yet, but I will shortly. I just don't see how Bob could compare a 2nd grader to a grown adult. I don't agree with that. But I'm hoping everything works out for James and we see him on the line for a long, long time.

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6/21/2014 1:47 PM

I liked this article Steve. Well thought out, and clear, critical thought applied in my opinion.

My thoughts on this situation are as such:

I really want this to go away, because James is one of my favorite riders, and whether his persona in interviews, interactions, etc is any indication, he seems like a genuinely good dude, with a great sense of humor. He's the anti-RV in public.

However... I know.... "here it comes". I wonder where the line is. Maybe he started taking it because he truly can't concentrate, etc in daily life. Or, he had a doctor, psychologist prescribe it because he couldn't focus in a full race. There seems to be a clear time in the past year, where he quit making the brain-fade mistakes of the past. Was it the adderol? Was it maturity? I don't know, and I don't care to guess. Saying that however, where do they draw the line. If a drug allows one guy to think clearer on the track.. what about other physical deficiencies? One guy has a bit of a stamina problem, so can they drug to match the competitors? Maybe Stewy was taking it due to concussion issues.... I'm speculating too much.

My point is, WADA was put in place to control drug use. Prescription or otherwise. James knew that. He continued to use it. He did not clear it with the sanctioning body or WADA, that I know of. So, in essence, he's not a cheater, but he's walking on the edge.

I just hope he is allowed to race, they clear it up, and honesty prevails.

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